20 TDs, 4 INTs

Super_Kazuya · Jan 3, 2018

Oh_Canada said:
Wrong Brady's rating went down and worse still in year three from rookie season.

McNabb marginally better, but had his worst staistically year in year four.

Matt Ryan's Qbr dropped in year two, as did comp% and interceptions thrown.

Brees was a disaster.

But yeah let's talk RGIII because the narrative fits.

I didn’t stutter. Their drops, except for Brees, were nonexistent/insignificant when you adjust to the year played, as QB statistics have steadily risen every year. The key is they didn’t fall off a cliff in their second year. A massive 2nd year drop is a trait you will find in very few QBs that weren’t Arena League bound.

garyo1954 · Jan 3, 2018

rocyaice said:
You had me until you tried to make a valid point by bringing up what Cooper Rush did against players not even in this league anymore. Yikes. If you are ok with a play book that lacks vertical plays then that's fine. If you are ok with receivers running the same 3 routes all game then ok.

You fell over the playbook not having vertical plays if you watched the Cooper Rush video. He's definitely throwing downfield routes. Playing against 2s is the same for Cooper Rush as it is for Dak who proved he could beat 2s against Philly by the whopping 6-0 score.

Dust yourself off and ponder this:

How many ways are there to run downfield?

Something else to ponder: Just because Scott Linehan does not call it doesn't mean it does not exist. So if you would be so kind, please provide said playbook for verification.

I did post yesterday after watching Garrett's presser where he says as we acquired personnel that allows us to run the ball, we've moved away from the pass first to a more balanced offense. And he's fine with that.

garyo1954 · Jan 3, 2018

Oh_Canada said:
Have you looked at Dak's 2016 preseason performance?

How about Blaine Gabbert 2017?

I'll say again: If you have a point make it. Don't expect everyone to read your mind. I won't try.

My point by posting Cooper Rush was to show there are intermediate and deep routes as the video shows.

KJJ · Jan 3, 2018

Nightman said:
22-10 in two years

Troy Aikman was 7-19 his first two years.

Oh_Canada · Jan 3, 2018

Super_Kazuya said:
I didn’t stutter. Their drops, except for Brees, were nonexistent/insignificant when you adjust to the year played, as QB statistics have steadily risen every year. The key is they didn’t fall off a cliff in their second year. A massive 2nd year drop is a trait you will find in very few QBs that weren’t Arena League bound.

His second year drop was still better than all those guys mentioned.
Good effort, good job.

Super_Kazuya · Jan 3, 2018

Oh_Canada said:
His second year drop was still better than all those guys mentioned.
Good effort, good job.

Uh, no? Dak had a massive RGIII drop. You’re not directly comparing passer ratings 15 years apart again, are you? You’re a little out of your element here. I think it’s time for you to stick to Madden while the adults are talking.

Oh_Canada · Jan 3, 2018

Super_Kazuya said:
Uh, no? Dak had a massive RGIII drop. You’re not directly comparing passer ratings 15 years apart again, are you? You’re a little out of your element here. I think it’s time for you to stick to Madden while the adults are talking.

I think you need to take your Tony Romo blankie and pillow and go back to bed.

KJJ · Jan 3, 2018

Kevinicus said:
This thread is about Dak, not the team.

Is that supposed to mean all the problems we had this season were totally on him?

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 3, 2018

garyo1954 said:
You fell over the playbook not having vertical plays if you watched the Cooper Rush video. He's definitely throwing downfield routes. Playing against 2s is the same for Cooper Rush as it is for Dak who proved he could beat 2s against Philly by the whopping 6-0 score.

Dust yourself off and ponder this:

How many ways are there to run downfield?

Something else to ponder: Just because Scott Linehan does not call it doesn't mean it does not exist. So if you would be so kind, please provide said playbook for verification.

I did post yesterday after watching Garrett's presser where he says as we acquired personnel that allows us to run the ball, we've moved away from the pass first to a more balanced offense. And he's fine with that.

I'm not going to provide anything just watch when they play. Their main personnel is included Dez, Witten, Beasley and TWill the chest catcher. Which one of these guys are rubbing vertical routes for you?

And Cooper Rush didn't play against second stringers. Some of those guys didn't even make t on a roster. You can't be serious here.

KJJ · Jan 3, 2018

texbumthelife said:
Dak gets no excuses, but that Atlanta game obvious had a huge effect on him.

The Atlanta game had a huge affect on the entire team. Chaz Green had one of the worst games I’ve ever seen an NFL player have at any position. His performance was horrific! It was like not having an LT on the field. We were without Zeke, Tyron and Lee went out during the game. The loss of Lee for several games had a huge negative affect on our defense. We fell apart for three weeks before righting the ship. A few weeks later we blew out the Commanders and Giants in back to back weeks and Dak played solid in both games. He combined for 5 TD passes and had a career game against the Giants.

We finished the season winning 4 of our last 5 games despite not having Zeke for most of them and Tyron in and out of the lineup. Our strength entering the season, our OL turned out to be our biggest weakness. Our OL struggles had a big affect on Dak’s game. Our OL was as good as it gets last season and it was terrible in a number of games this season.

Nightman · Jan 3, 2018

KJJ said:
Troy Aikman was 7-19 his first two years.

makes 22-10 look pretty flippin good

KJJ · Jan 3, 2018

Nightman said:
makes 22-10 look pretty flippin good

It does especially considering the fact that we don’t have a Jimmy Johnson as the head coach. Dak doesn’t have the luxury of the great staff Troy had to work with when he first came into the league.

garyo1954 · Jan 3, 2018

rocyaice said:
I'm not going to provide anything just watch when they play. Their main personnel is included Dez, Witten, Beasley and TWill the chest catcher. Which one of these guys are rubbing vertical routes for you?

And Cooper Rush didn't play against second stringers. Some of those guys didn't even make t on a roster. You can't be serious here.

I can't do anything but laugh at you. You claim the playbook has no verticals; Cooper Rush was throwing verticals (stretching the field) and neither will you show the playbook to prove your point or concede Cooper Rush was throwing the ball downfield.

Good show!

starcity214 · Jan 3, 2018

Oh_Canada said:
I think you need to take your Tony Romo blankie and pillow and go back to bed.

Show some respect man.
You're talking about a guy who holds all the records for the franchize you claim to support...

The only record he doesn't hold is the one for worst 3 game stretch in franchize history.

Super_Kazuya · Jan 3, 2018

starcity214 said:
Show some respect man.
You're talking about a guy who holds all the records for the franchize you claim to support...

The only record he doesn't hold is the one for worst 3 game stretch in franchize history.

He will also never hold the Cowboy records for most picks sixes in a season (four - Prescott, Dak) and lowest playoff winning percentage (.000 - Carter, Quincy and Prescott, Dak).

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 6, 2018

garyo1954 said:
I can't do anything but laugh at you. You claim the playbook has no verticals; Cooper Rush was throwing verticals (stretching the field) and neither will you show the playbook to prove your point or concede Cooper Rush was throwing the ball downfield.

Good show!

The fact that you bring up what Cooper did in the preseason against guys out of the league is why I'm not wasting the energy. All I can do is tell you to go to YouTube and rewatch the plays. I can't do it for you. You're an adult now.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 6, 2018

Super_Kazuya said:
He will also never hold the Cowboy records for most picks sixes in a season (four - Prescott, Dak) and lowest playoff winning percentage (.000 - Carter, Quincy and Prescott, Dak).

Quincy played in one game as did Dak?

HungryLion · Jan 6, 2018

Super_Kazuya said:
He will also never hold the Cowboy records for most picks sixes in a season (four - Prescott, Dak) and lowest playoff winning percentage (.000 - Carter, Quincy and Prescott, Dak).

Lol at using the playoff stat. Romo was 0-2 in the playoffs at one point.

benson · Jan 6, 2018

DakPresgoat said:
Lol at using the playoff stat. Romo was 0-2 in the playoffs at one point.

Except Romo was actually good, while Dak drags down the team around him. Dak might never sniff another playoff game again before he gets run out of town.

Derekmtl85 · Jan 6, 2018

benson said:
Except Romo was actually good, while Dak drags down the team around him. Dak might never sniff another playoff game again before he gets run out of town.

4 out of his 6 playoff games, he had 201 yards or less. His first two? 58% and 50% passing. Also only had 2 touchdowns in those first two games. So yeah...he wasn't exactly playing well at first. Daks first playoff game? 302 yards, 3 touchdowns 1 int. 63% passing.

Obviously not saying Dak is better, but using playoffs to compare, is weird.

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