Twitter: Cowboys Free Agency Spending Ranking last 5 years

LocimusPrime · Mar 18, 2018

I like Will Cain, he's from the north Texas area and reps the cowboys well when Max and Stephan A attack them

kskboys · Mar 18, 2018

Of course. Paying average players huge contracts has got us in a bind. Poor player evaluations.

JoeyBoy718 · Mar 18, 2018

Here are those signings:

Year - Rank - Signings

2013 - 32nd - OLB Justin Durant, S Will Allen

2014 - 25th - QB Brandon Weeden, G Uche Nwaneri, DE Jeremy Mincey, DT Henry Melton, DT Terrell McClain, ILB Rolando McClain, ILB Will Herring, S Danny McCray

2015 - 27th - RB Darren McFadden, FB Jed Collins, DE Greg Hardy, OLB Keith Rivers, ILB Jasper Brinkley, ILB Andrew Gachkar

2016 - 18th - RB Alfred Morris, DE Benson Mayowa, DT Cedric Thornton

2017 - 25th - DE Damontre Moore, DT Stephen Paea, CB Nolan Carroll

Alexander · Mar 18, 2018

kskboys said:
Of course. Paying average players huge contracts has got us in a bind. Poor player evaluations.

That is not exactly what the original post was about.

TakedisDAK · Mar 18, 2018

I wish this list correlated to playoff wins

Alexander · Mar 18, 2018

JoeyBoy718 said:
Here are those signings:

Year - Rank - Signings

2013 - 32nd - OLB Justin Durant, S Will Allen

2014 - 25th - QB Brandon Weeden, G Uche Nwaneri, DE Jeremy Mincey, DT Henry Melton, DT Terrell McClain, ILB Rolando McClain, ILB Will Herring, S Danny McCray

2015 - 27th - RB Darren McFadden, FB Jed Collins, DE Greg Hardy, OLB Keith Rivers, ILB Jasper Brinkley, ILB Andrew Gachkar

2016 - 18th - RB Alfred Morris, DE Benson Mayowa, DT Cedric Thornton

2017 - 25th - DE Damontre Moore, DT Stephen Paea, CB Nolan Carroll

It is entirely possible that every single solitary one of these players could be completely out of the NFL in the upcoming season.

Let that sink in.

C'mon Brandon, Alfred, Benson and Cedric. You can do it!

Jerryrage · Mar 18, 2018

You think our GM and scouting team can do player evaluations past the first round let alone try to sign players in free agency? LOL

AbeBeta · Mar 18, 2018

Does the list include our own FAs?

It does not.

Let's make a dumb list that penalizes a team for getting a great player in the draft and then being able to lock them up long term.

Smith, Frederick, Lawrence ... Don't matter. We only want to recognize teams who give big contracts to guys drafted by other teams

Alexander · Mar 18, 2018

AbeBeta said:
Does the list include our own FAs?

It does not.

Let's make a dumb list that penalizes a team for getting a great player in the draft and then being able to lock them up long term.

Smith, Frederick, Lawrence ... Don't matter. We only want to recognize teams who give big contracts to guys drafted by other teams

Free agency kind of uh, means that. "Free".

Anyone can pay people that are already under their own roof that can't negotiate with anyone else.

Lawrence was franchised. It did not exactly take slick negotiation from our braintrust to make him sign on the dotted line.

Most of the time when teams sign their own it is doing so before other teams get a chance to bid on them.

Retention is different from talent acquisition .

But please. Continue to whine and complain that we just don't get the credit you feel is deserved.

TakedisDAK · Mar 18, 2018

Alexander said:
Free agency kind of uh, means that. "Free".

Anyone can pay people that are already under their own roof that can't negotiate with anyone else.

Lawrence was franchised. It did not exactly take slick negotiation from our braintrust to make him sign on the dotted line.

Most of the time when teams sign their own it is doing so before other teams get a chance to bid on them.

But please. Continue to complain that we just don't get the credit you feel is deserved.

Great point Alexander
The problem is this team is too drastic in it's approach too often. It's either overspend or spend little to none. There seems to be no grey area with this front office imo. Free agency is meant to plug holes with talent that can't be filled in the draft ... which within those 5 years our success in free agency probably mirrors the money spent ...you get what you pay for !!

jay94 · Mar 18, 2018

kskboys said:
Of course. Paying average players huge contracts has got us in a bind. Poor player evaluations.

While I agree, rather take shots, than get players that are practice squad worthy for a already mediocre team.

AbeBeta · Mar 18, 2018

Alexander said:
Free agency kind of uh, means that. "Free".

Anyone can pay people that are already under their own roof that can't negotiate with anyone else.

Lawrence was franchised. It did not exactly take slick negotiation from our braintrust to make him sign on the dotted line.

Most of the time when teams sign their own it is doing so before other teams get a chance to bid on them.

Retention is different from talent acquisition .

But please. Continue to whine and complain that we just don't get the credit you feel is deserved.

Not letting great players get free.

Yes. Not important at all.

But please keep embracing semantics that support your agenda

Alexander · Mar 18, 2018

AbeBeta said:
Not letting great players get free.

Yes. Not important at all.

But please keep embracing semantics that support your agenda

It is not semantics.

Again.

Acquisition and retention are two different things.

If you would like to start a thread explaining how awesome Dallas is at keeping their own, feel free.

This was specifically about free agency, yet you were compelled to change the subject, like it mattered.

beware_d-ware · Mar 18, 2018

Alexander said:
It is entirely possible that every single solitary one of these players could be completely out of the NFL in the upcoming season.

Let that sink in.

C'mon Brandon, Alfred, Benson and Cedric. You can do it!

It's not that surprising. The average NFL career is about four years, so the guys who even make free agency are already the long runners.

RamziD · Mar 18, 2018

JoeyBoy718 said:
Here are those signings:

Year - Rank - Signings

2013 - 32nd - OLB Justin Durant, S Will Allen

2014 - 25th - QB Brandon Weeden, G Uche Nwaneri, DE Jeremy Mincey, DT Henry Melton, DT Terrell McClain, ILB Rolando McClain, ILB Will Herring, S Danny McCray

2015 - 27th - RB Darren McFadden, FB Jed Collins, DE Greg Hardy, OLB Keith Rivers, ILB Jasper Brinkley, ILB Andrew Gachkar

2016 - 18th - RB Alfred Morris, DE Benson Mayowa, DT Cedric Thornton

2017 - 25th - DE Damontre Moore, DT Stephen Paea, CB Nolan Carroll

So...20/22 of those players are not on the team anymore. The other 2 are Darren McFadden and Alfred Morris. We might want to rethink our FA strategy.

Alexander · Mar 18, 2018

RamziD said:
So...20/22 of those players are not on the team anymore. The other 2 are Darren McFadden and Alfred Morris. We might want to rethink our FA strategy.

We have.

Because we have made errors in evaluating personnel in the past, we are now completely adverse to the process.

The whole issue is not the process.

The issue is that we are horrible at pro personnel evaluation and have been for a very long time.

That is a side of talent acquisition that most people discount.

This idea of raising the draft onto a pedestal is not all that intelligent. It just means we ignore that part of the process.

AbeBeta · Mar 18, 2018

Alexander said:
It is not semantics.

Again.

Acquisition and retention are two different things.

If you would like to start a thread explaining how awesome Dallas is at keeping their own, feel free.

This was specifically about free agency, yet you were compelled to change the subject, like it mattered.

They are linked.

The dumb teams that let A.J. Bouye and Oliver Vernon go. Are they better teams for it?

Oh boy. They used the money to spend on UFA. Are they better for it? Not at all. They spent money on free agents from other teams but failed to retain the players they'd developed.

Keep pretending these are orthogonal issues.

LocimusPrime · Mar 18, 2018

JoeyBoy718 said:
Here are those signings:

Year - Rank - Signings

2013 - 32nd - OLB Justin Durant, S Will Allen

2014 - 25th - QB Brandon Weeden, G Uche Nwaneri, DE Jeremy Mincey, DT Henry Melton, DT Terrell McClain, ILB Rolando McClain, ILB Will Herring, S Danny McCray

2015 - 27th - RB Darren McFadden, FB Jed Collins, DE Greg Hardy, OLB Keith Rivers, ILB Jasper Brinkley, ILB Andrew Gachkar

2016 - 18th - RB Alfred Morris, DE Benson Mayowa, DT Cedric Thornton

2017 - 25th - DE Damontre Moore, DT Stephen Paea, CB Nolan Carroll

Thanks brother

Alexander · Mar 19, 2018

AbeBeta said:
They are linked.

No, they are not.

Retention and talent acquisition are two separate and distinct things.

In the NFL and in real life.

Get better talent, the retention thing tends to follow right behind it.

In your examples, Dallas acquired under controlled circumstances (the draft) and retained, also with control.

Free agency does not have the element of control. It is like drafting players, you have to evaluate and then decide to acquire.

The dumb teams that let A.J. Bouye and Oliver Vernon go. Are they better teams for it?

Wait, so they are dumb? So finances paid no part in either of these two examples and it was just some sort of evaluation whiff? Please.

In a few years, Dallas might have to pay Prescott and what if that costs them the chance to keep Collins?

Will they be smart? Or dumb?

I bet you believe they are suddenly smart in that scenario if it turns out the way you want.

Keep pretending these are orthogonal issues.

Orthogonal?

I am guessing you chose the word because you believe it makes you sound intelligent.

LOL

AbeBeta · Mar 19, 2018

Alexander said:
Orthogonal?

I am guessing you chose the word because you believe it makes you sound intelligent.

LOL

No, because I knew it would send you scrambling to figure out what it meant.

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