Marinelli accountability

dsturgeon · Jun 5, 2019

This defense will be very good. If the offense improves, it will allow them to play to their strength.

The offense had slow first half starts, and trouble in the red zone. The defense kept them in a bunch of games

Falco78 · Jun 6, 2019

QuincyCarterEra said:
Being rational isn't allowed here.

I keep forgetting that lol

DuncanIso · Jun 6, 2019

JayFord said:
Marinelli has done more than enough

Yeah he’s not perfect but considering what he started with and what he’s accomplished since then he’s done enough

I think Marinelli should have been fired after the 2013 season.

Yes, he was in on that mess too. Along with Monte.

He should have been fired for the 2nd half collapse at Green Bay, but the Dez catch overshadowed everything.

The 1st half collapse vs Green Bay in 2016 was all Marinelli. And the stupid cover 4 zone at the end to setup the FG. Dumb.

Who can forget 2017 and all the D collapses. Go watch that Thanksgiving game again.

No. Had enough of Hot Rod.

Time for Richard to take over full time.

Falco78 · Jun 6, 2019

The bottom line is as a DL coach he is amazing

noshame · Jun 6, 2019

Chris is running this defense Rod is DC in name only.

Trendnet · Jun 6, 2019

Verdict said:
Marinelli has more talent and depth along the DL than he has ever had since becoming the Cowboys DC. The way I see it, the DL is his baby, and if it under performs its all on Marinelli.

If the DL isn’t performing near a top 5 level by the eyeball test (stats can lie) he really needs to be put out to pasture!!!

Stats lie, but your faulty memory and eye tests are accurate?

LOL.

Stash · Jun 6, 2019

Falco78 said:
The bottom line is as a DL coach he is amazing

In many ways, yes. But not in his insistence in foregoing talent and ignoring the importance of having a big run stuffer inside. His mandated tradeoff of speed for power in his 'Rushmen' has never translated into having a better pass rush. For all of the talk and adding this guy or that guy along with having a top 5 defensive end pass rusher in Tank Lawrence, the Cowboys team sack numbers have never been better than middle of the road.

And like you said, he's a good defensive line coach, so why do they insist on keeping the coordinator title on him when it's obvious Richard is doing that job?

Verdict · Jun 6, 2019

Trendnet said:
Stats lie, but your faulty memory and eye tests are accurate?

LOL.

What can I say? I’m almost infallible! Lol

Cover 2 · Jun 6, 2019

Hennessy_King said:
The patriots defense was weak all season too. The excuses are like buttholes they all stink. And it's honestly to the point I'm sick and tired of them.

Buttholes smell delicious!

Yum yum!!!

PhillySpecial · Jun 6, 2019

Cover 2 said:
Buttholes smell delicious!

Yum yum!!!

Does this comment have anything to do with your screen name? Even the double "yum" is like a cover 2.

Just kidding of course. Your comment suggests you can take a joke. Hope I'm right.

Falco78 · Jun 6, 2019

stasheroo said:
In many ways, yes. But not in his insistence in foregoing talent and ignoring the importance of having a big run stuffer inside. His mandated tradeoff of speed for power in his 'Rushmen' has never translated into having a better pass rush. For all of the talk and adding this guy or that guy along with having a top 5 defensive end pass rusher in Tank Lawrence, the Cowboys team sack numbers have never been better than middle of the road.

And like you said, he's a good defensive line coach, so why do they insist on keeping the coordinator title on him when it's obvious Richard is doing that job?

I agree with all of this. He should not have the title, but he is great as a DL coach

DuncanIso · Jun 6, 2019

I will admit that I am not a Marinelli fan.

I think he is overrated and he should have been fired by now.

With Richard on board, why is Marinelli even a coach for our team?!?

Especially after the Rams game. We haven't had a train wreck like that since the '85 blow out to the Rams in LA. (Landry's last playoff game. You can watch it on YouTube if you have the stomach for it.)

The only reason Marinelli is still here is because of Jason. He's loyal to a fault.

DHCBF66 · Jun 6, 2019

GenoT said:
Let’s see...

We have D-Law, who’s posted one truly outstanding season (2017) in his first 5yrs, a declining Robert Quinn, who hasn’t registered 10 sacks since 2014, a few halfway decent journeymen (Collins, Crawford, Woods) and some yet-to-be-proven and/or wait-and-see guys.

Yeah...we’ve got the makings of the second-coming of the Doomsday DL, fer sure.

Crawford, Collins and Woods were all drafted by the Cowboys so please explain how they are "journeyman"!

DHCBF66 · Jun 6, 2019

DuncanIso said:
I will admit that I am not a Marinelli fan.

I think he is overrated and he should have been fired by now.

With Richard on board, why is Marinelli even a coach for our team?!?

Especially after the Rams game. We haven't had a train wreck like that since the '85 blow out to the Rams in LA. (Landry's last playoff game. You can watch it on YouTube if you have the stomach for it.)

The only reason Marinelli is still here is because of Jason. He's loyal to a fault.

But wasnt Richards calling the plays? EVERYONE was "claiming" the defense was playing better because Richards was calling plays so should he not get the blame for the Rams game? Why should Marinelli be fired for Richards play calling?

DuncanIso · Jun 7, 2019

DHCBF66 said:
But wasnt Richards calling the plays? EVERYONE was "claiming" the defense was playing better because Richards was calling plays so should he not get the blame for the Rams game? Why should Marinelli be fired for Richards play calling?

There is a difference between relaying the play and calling the plays.

Marinelli is the DC. Richard is the passing game coordinator.

The passing game wasn’t the problem.

Did Richard take over the defense and cause it to collapse during the Rams game?!?

Did Marinelli just watch the defense collapse and not do anything?!?

Did Jason let that happen?

No. It was Marinelli.

Stash · Jun 7, 2019

DHCBF66 said:
But wasnt Richards calling the plays? EVERYONE was "claiming" the defense was playing better because Richards was calling plays so should he not get the blame for the Rams game? Why should Marinelli be fired for Richards play calling?

Because it was Marinelli's 'Rushmen' that got the team killed. And Marinelli's 'tips and tells' that allowed the Rams to know what the Cowboys were doing "90% of the time".

Johnny23 · Jun 7, 2019

stasheroo said:
In many ways, yes. But not in his insistence in foregoing talent and ignoring the importance of having a big run stuffer inside. His mandated tradeoff of speed for power in his 'Rushmen' has never translated into having a better pass rush. For all of the talk and adding this guy or that guy along with having a top 5 defensive end pass rusher in Tank Lawrence, the Cowboys team sack numbers have never been better than middle of the road.

And like you said, he's a good defensive line coach, so why do they insist on keeping the coordinator title on him when it's obvious Richard is doing that job?

It's ironic because the best defensrs he ever coached had guys like Tommie Harris, Booger McFarland, and Greg Spires Manning the middle alongside the Warren Sapp like 3-Tech.

nate dizzle · Jun 7, 2019

Marinelli has been getting this line to overachieve since he arrived here. Quick, tell me a D-Lineman that left this team during his tenure that went somewhere else and did...anything?

DuncanIso · Jun 7, 2019

nate dizzle said:
Marinelli has been getting this line to overachieve since he arrived here. Quick, tell me a D-Lineman that left this team during his tenure that went somewhere else and did...anything?

Being a DLine coach is fine.

We are talking about being the DC. He’s clearly not on the same level as Richard.

Marinelli blew up that Rams game with his stupid 4-2-5 1 gap DLine stunts, that the Rams clearly had figured out.

Fast forward to the Rams / Pats game. The Pats stacked their DL and just played 0 tech / 2Gap and they shut the Rams running game down.

So simple.

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country · Jun 7, 2019

When Marinelli defenses, in Tampa and Chicago, were best in the league we was the defensive coordinator for a defensive minded head coach. So the accomplishments of the Tampa and Chicago defenses can not be solely attributed to Marinelli. Truth is Marinelli isn't a super great coordinator but the bigger problem is Garrett won't get rid of him.

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