News: CBS Writers/Editors rank NFL QBs

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I don't have a problem with the ranking.....but something about Matt Ryan being that high I can't agree with it. There are 4 or 5 guys I'd rather have then him.


Not getting the Watson love.

I like Wason. But not sure I get the case for him over Prescott or Wentz. He plays with the best receiver in the league.

Outside of that, the top 9 I have no real qualms about.
That's what I Was gonna say. I like Watson. But I'm not sure what he's shown yet to be ranked that high.
 

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Watson and Prescott are just average. Wentz could be much more than that, but he's already broken. Goff is limited in multiple ways. Trubisky, too.

The only youngish quarterbacks I see that could become elite are Mahomes, Mayfield, Garrapolo, and Allen. Murray will be an interesting watch because he may be the best athlete in the league.
Alright.....Mahomes I already Elite. But you have a very odd opinion about Prescott, Watson, Goff and Tribusky who have all shown more in this league than Jimmy, Allen and Mayfield. You'll see this year though when they all struggle.
 

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Goal is to be in the top 12 QB's since 12 teams make the playoffs but it's really good to be in the top 8. But wait a minute, it isn't the top 12 QB's that make the playoffs, it's the top 12 teams.
But it lets you know who's carrying whom. Romo was top 10 in passer rating every qualifying year he played. Needless to say, his teams weren't in the playoffs every year. His defenses were bottom 10 in passer rating four times.
 

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But it lets you know who's carrying whom. Romo was top 10 in passer rating every qualifying year he played. Needless to say, his teams weren't in the playoffs every year. His defenses were bottom 10 in passer rating four times.
There is always that question of overachieving from the HC and QB's stand point.

Romo's style of play fit his teams. He was all about got to make it on this play because he didn't know when I am going to get another chance. 2014 his best game manager year. QB's that have to overachieve for their teams have to be risk takers and Rodgers has been like that most of his career.

I don't think many really think about how Brady gets to play within himself, manage the game and just do his job. Even in a catch up mode, he still plays the game the same way. You couldn't tell the score in the ATL-NE SB from watching him play.

Few QB's in NFL history, Starr, Bradshaw, Griese, Montana and Aikman and now, Brady, have had the luxury of confidence in their coaching, run game and defense to be able to manage the game and play within themselves.
 

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Watson had a 103 rating his rookie year before getting hurt. Then he followed that up with another 103 rated season in 2018. His QBR was higher in 2017 than Dak's and higher in 2018 than Dak's.

The case can absolutely be made he's a better QB than Dak.

In fact, I'd trade Dak for Watson right now and not even bat an eye.
 

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Over 10 NFL reporters/editors submitted a list of their ten best QBs right now and points were assigned and a final list was created.

Dak is not on it. Neither was Wentz, although he just missed apparently.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...gers-battle-for-second-behind-unanimous-no-1/
i don't have any issues with it. half the top 10 will be out of the league in a few years. to date, dak really hasn't done anything to break that top 10; other than be a cowboys qb i suppose.
 

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I'd take Watson over Wentz and Dak right now. It's not like Wentz and Dak have played with slop in their tenures here either.

Watson had a really season going in 2017 (103 rating) before getting hurt. Then followed that up by performing at a high level (anotehr 103 rating) in 2018.

He strikes me as a guy like Wilson............ always kind of floating under the radar. Big year for Watson. If he can back up 2017 and 2018 with a really good 2019, he's a legit Top 10 QB IMO.

Wilson haterz like to attribute his success to the Seahawks run game in years past. Of course when it comes to the benefit Zeke provides Dak it’s an entirely different scenario :rolleyes:.
 

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I loved this paragraph from the article:

Below, you'll find CBS Sports' list of the 10 best quarterbacks in the NFL right now. On that note, it's worth reiterating that the quarterbacks were ranked collectively by a group involving more than 10 writers and editors. All of us ranked our top 10 quarterbacks. Our individual ballots were then turned into one list using a point system. This is not my own personal list. This is the list for the entire NFL team here at CBS Sports. - Sean Wagner-McGough


Funny. Wagner-McGough writes the article, which is based on information involving individual ballots from specific people, but he does not state how many writers and editors exactly voted. Instead, he writes it is "...a group involving more than 10 writers and editors." Not eleven people. Or twenty. Just 'more than 10'. It reads like it is a small number of people who voted whom he does not know all their names. :rolleyes:

Plus, he emphasizes it is not his personal list, which he includes a link for 'the list for the entire NFL team here at CBS Sports.' That is good information to provide readers. Of course, readers can click the link for the entire CBS Sports team that ranked the players and be re-directed to a list of all National Football League teams instead. :facepalm:
Yep...it’s all about traffic (and ad $$) for the CBSS site.

Every time I cave-in and click-on one of these links, I’m reminded that we could probably assemble 10 of our more rational (and sober ;)) Zoners — those who have coaching experience and are stat-savvy — and get much better “expert” opinions than most of the “professional” bloggers provide.
 

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There is always that question of overachieving from the HC and QB's stand point.

Romo's style of play fit his teams. He was all about got to make it on this play because he didn't know when I am going to get another chance.
It says a lot about Romo, Brees, and others who are/were able to take risks on a regular basis and still be efficient enough that their overall performance actually helped their team.
 

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Watson and Prescott are just average. Wentz could be much more than that, but he's already broken. Goff is limited in multiple ways. Trubisky, too.

The only youngish quarterbacks I see that could become elite are Mahomes, Mayfield, Garrapolo, and Allen. Murray will be an interesting watch because he may be the best athlete in the league.
Why are fans so high on Garrapolo? Dude hasn’t done much.
 

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I mean, Watson has had one injury in the NFL. Hard to say he's not durable.

The OL point is wildly underrated for Watson. We saw what happened to Dak when the OL struggled, and Watson has never had a run game to lean on either. I don't think it's even close between the two.
Durability generally goes to build. Watson has that skinny build that is often not conducive to staying on the field in the NFL. He came in as a brash Rook, and his health now depends on whether he learned his lesson. At one point he stated/bragged that throwing his body around was just the way he played, and he wasn't going to change his style. If he continues in that thinking, he'll soon be an afterthought like RGIII. To be seen.

Run game: Texans were 8th in the running game last season and have a fine talent in Lamar Miller. I think you might want to check on stuff like that before posting.
 

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Watson and Prescott are just average. Wentz could be much more than that, but he's already broken. Goff is limited in multiple ways. Trubisky, too.

The only youngish quarterbacks I see that could become elite are Mahomes, Mayfield, Garrapolo, and Allen. Murray will be an interesting watch because he may be the best athlete in the league.
What's up w/ your lovefest w/ Allen? He plays like Dak lite, and appears to be even more inaccurate than Dak.
 

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Wilson haterz like to attribute his success to the Seahawks run game in years past. Of course when it comes to the benefit Zeke provides Dak it’s an entirely different scenario :rolleyes:.

The Dak world is fully of conundrums like this.............. such as when people say you can't pay Dak all that money because he's a game manager needing guys like Elliott and Cooper to succeed, the Dak supporters get all up in arms.

But then turn around and excuse Dak's 2017 performance because he didn't have Elliott for 6 games.
 
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