Players vs. fans

JeffAtl

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That’s not true. The CBA just allows for teams to cut players without having to honor any non-guaranteed money and the only ramifications are prorated bonus money accelerating into that (or the next depending on the timing) cap year. Nowhere else in the real world do employers have that luxury. And it’s not equitable unless you believe the CBA negotiations are equitable. If that’s the case I have some oceanfront land to sell you.

It is true though. The contracts have early termination provisions. Every contract in the real world has those. Check your lease agreement or your mortgage contract.

Employment contracts are the same. They all contain verbiage on early termination terms.
 

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It is true though. The contracts have early termination provisions. Every contract in the real world has those. Check your lease agreement or your mortgage contract.

Employment contracts are the same. They all contain verbiage on early termination terms.
Early termination provisions are not the same as team options (your term). And in the "real world" most of those aren't one-sided. Generally when an employer has the right to terminate, the employee also has the right to do the same. In the NFL, the players do not have that right.
 

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Thuggish behavior? For a guy that's never been in jail that's a pretty stupid statement.
If jail time is how you define being thuggish, than you need to adjust your beliefs. Lots of thugs don't go to jail if they are rich or connected enough.
 

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No, what pissed me off is they first rolled it out years ago, it was great. Then they did away with it for several years, I was disappointed but it was forgivable. Then they made a big hoopla about how they were bringing back all the “classics” for good. I couldn’t have been more excited!

So for what seems like several years I gave Whataburger my business on every late night drunken excursion I had. I never even thought of cheating on them. My typical order was the A-1, a Justaburger and several breakfast items usually totaling in the mid $20 range.

But then.....then they decide they are doing away with it and once again make a big deal of it but at least I was given notification. I even went out of my way (sober mind you) a couple times to get the A-1 and celebrate it in all it’s glory. I figured maybe they got cross ways with A-1 or something because there’s no good reason to get rid of one of their most popular burgers.

Fast forward another ~2 years and they, once again, are bringing it back. This time it’s even more over the top with billboards, radio, etc. I couldn’t wait and got it the first day it was available. Fast forward another year or two, my wife is driving and I’m sloppy in the passenger seat at about midnight just craving an A-1 after a concert. We roll up, I place my huge order and throw in the A-1 at the end only to be told they didn’t have it. I was shocked and po’d, figured they ran out of sauce so I asked “so you mean you ran out of sauce”? and the lady said “no, we’re not carrying it anymore”.

No warning, no good bye, no nothing. Jerks just pulled it from the menu like it was never there. I was so po’d, I told my wife to just drive away. I went to bed starving but at least I saved a few thousand calories. So that’s when I had enough and banned them until they brought it back.

Well, they brought it back about a year ago with little notice this time. Had it a couple times. So the last time I knew I was going to a concert I called the local store the day before just to make sure they still had it since I hadn’t been in a few months. The lady said “we may have it tomorrow if we still have the sauce”. I’m like ***?! So I ask “are you running out of sauce”? she said “no, once it’s gone we won’t be serving the burger anymore”.

Again, no warning, no nothing. Anyways, to make a long story longer. I called on the way back from the concert and sure enough they had run out so off to In N Out it was. Screw them, I may be done permanently with their shady crap, plus add in the fact that they’re not really “Texas” anymore so they can take that A-1 next time it comes out and shove it up their keister.
Wow,,,my head is kinda' all squiggly& such, much akin like a knotted up ball of snakes after reading this,,,o_O




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Thuggish behavior? For a guy that's never been in jail that's a pretty stupid statement.
I wonder how many people calling him a thug now were defending him during a dubious DV investigation and suspension.

What has done? Pulled a girls shirt down in public and got into a fight? I was in the Marine infantry, and if that consitutes being a " thug" than 90% of them, including myself, are thugs
 

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Do you think Brady would have wanted more money if he had married a school teacher and not a supermodel?

I think Brady is in an entirely different place than Dak. Some teeny weenie part might be his wife's money, but the reality is Brady is estimated to have a net worth of $180 million independent of his wife. He already has the money (and the awards, and records and championships). At this point he is playing because he loves the game and the competition. He doesn't need it to secure his financial future.

Dak, on the other hand, isn't sitting on a mountain of assets, and he knows NFL careers are fleeting. Brady playing into his 40's and still being an elite player is a huge rarity. And I suspect that once Dak's financial future is secure, he will work with the team along the way and restructure as needed to help ease salary cap burdens, much like Brady and Romo and other QB's (and other players) have done over the years.
 

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It is true though. The contracts have early termination provisions. Every contract in the real world has those. Check your lease agreement or your mortgage contract.

Employment contracts are the same. They all contain verbiage on early termination terms.

There's one huge difference: the NFL's antitrust exemption, which is a nice way of saying legalized monopoly.

If I don't like lease terms or mortgage terms I can tell that landlord or bank to take a hike and go negotiate with someone else. NFL players can only negotiate with the NFL owners, and the owners are protected by their exemption.
 

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There's one huge difference: the NFL's antitrust exemption, which is a nice way of saying legalized monopoly.

If I don't like lease terms or mortgage terms I can tell that landlord or bank to take a hike and go negotiate with someone else. NFL players can only negotiate with the NFL owners, and the owners are protected by their exemption.

The players have something much more powerful - their collective bargaining agreement. Their "exemption" doesn't protect them from them labor laws.

The players get revenue sharing - the players (as a whole) get around 48% of revenue. The Players' Association agrees to how that money gets allocated.

Sure, with the NBA's agreement, a player gets more guaranteed spot, but think about what that really does. It precludes other hard-working players from earning a spot on merit. That's why you see 3 or 4 guys on the end of bench in sweats that never play but still taking up $15M in cap every year.
 

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There's one huge difference: the NFL's antitrust exemption, which is a nice way of saying legalized monopoly.

If I don't like lease terms or mortgage terms I can tell that landlord or bank to take a hike and go negotiate with someone else. NFL players can only negotiate with the NFL owners, and the owners are protected by their exemption.

The reason NFL players can only negotiate with NFL owners is that NFL owners are the only ones that a have an NFL team. An NFL player can, however, tell the NFL to take a hike and go negotiate with a Canadian Team or XFL team (if that still exists) or an Arena team. The antitrust exemption does not prevent competing leagues. The exemption just allows them to conduct business differently - reserving players rights etc ...
 

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I think Brady is in an entirely different place than Dak. Some teeny weenie part might be his wife's money, but the reality is Brady is estimated to have a net worth of $180 million independent of his wife. He already has the money (and the awards, and records and championships). At this point he is playing because he loves the game and the competition. He doesn't need it to secure his financial future.

Dak, on the other hand, isn't sitting on a mountain of assets, and he knows NFL careers are fleeting. Brady playing into his 40's and still being an elite player is a huge rarity. And I suspect that once Dak's financial future is secure, he will work with the team along the way and restructure as needed to help ease salary cap burdens, much like Brady and Romo and other QB's (and other players) have done over the years.
You think? That's not good enough!
 

Melonfeud

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Don't get cocky - it's not as if you're the first guy to question my ability to think.
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The only way Big-G could get anymore cockiness crammed into his casing-liner would be if he grew some&got bigger,,,o_O



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