Twitter: Jerry: Dak deal imminent

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You think a "hater" made the claim that "haters" were saying Dak had a bad game (which your quoted posts do NOT say)?

The proof is there, yet you still cannot see.

You are trying to debate with a drive-by poster who believes their purpose is to smash forum trolls. Right or wrong, you won't get much of a debate.
 

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The 'Dink and Dunk' lie is officially exposed. Try something new.
Ummm I might wait a few weeks ok champ? Like until we actually play a team that has a secondary and has some pressure at the line.

Dak still made a lot of short and immediate throws today. 60% of his deep throws were to WIIIIIIIIIDE open receivers.. and two of them his throw was behind and thus cost a potential house call.

I'm not saying that his mechanics aren't better this season.. I'm just saying that it is one game.. against the Giants. Also dink and dunk is all we need our QB to do.. this team will go deep if we stay with our run game, solid defence and then when they stack the box... go deep.
 

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New season, great win and yet same arguments. I have always described Dak as a dink and dunk game manager.. and that is both a positive and negative. I think our TEAM can have great success with Dak as a dink and dunk.

There shouldn't be an overreaction to the game either way. These are factors:
- Giants secondary is poor (like very poor)
- Giants pass rush is poor (non-existent)
- It is one game
- If you go through the tape of every catch.. most throws were behind the receiver. Most throws were made from a clean pocket (see above) and to a receiver that was wide open (not NFL wide open but legit wide open). There were 3 spectacular throws to tight windows.. the rest were either poor throws to safe throws.
- 1 spectacular game should never equal a huge contract

So I will be keen to see how we go this year.. we have a lot of weapons on offence.. our OLine is getting back to dominant.. Zeke will be better for the run and our defence looks better than it has been for years.

I'm confident the Dak deal will get done but I wouldn't be paying overs.. he is a game manager and there are lots of them around.
Dak Prescott: the 1st “dink and dunk game manager” in NFL history with a perfect passer rating on 400+ Yds and 4 TD, with nearly 13 yards per ATTEMPT!!!

(Or the more likely explanation: you don’t know football. At all.)
 

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Dak Prescott: the 1st “dink and dunk” QB in NFL history with a perfect passer rating on 400+ Yds and 4 TD, with nearly 13 yards per ATTEMPT!!!

(Or the more likely explanation: you don’t know football. At all.)
Disagree.. and ffs it is one game.. lets see how the Giants go this season.. that is literally all I'm saying. Is how about we just wait more than ONE friggen week before declaring Dak the next Brady.
 

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Ummm I might wait a few weeks ok champ? Like until we actually play a team that has a secondary and has some pressure at the line.

Dak still made a lot of short and immediate throws today. 60% of his deep throws were to WIIIIIIIIIDE open receivers.. and two of them his throw was behind and thus cost a potential house call.

I'm not saying that his mechanics aren't better this season.. I'm just saying that it is one game.. against the Giants. Also dink and dunk is all we need our QB to do.. this team will go deep if we stay with our run game, solid defence and then when they stack the box... go deep.
You aren’t going to get a nuanced analysis from a bunch of brainless Dak slobberers. The only thing you can be sure of is when the Dak stinkers come — and they’re going to come, he’s the same old Dak — Dak slobberers are going to be hiding under a rock so deep that the CowboyRoy troll will be standing on their heads.
 

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New season, great win and yet same arguments. I have always described Dak as a dink and dunk game manager.. and that is both a positive and negative. I think our TEAM can have great success with Dak as a dink and dunk.

There shouldn't be an overreaction to the game either way. These are factors:
- Giants secondary is poor (like very poor)
- Giants pass rush is poor (non-existent)
- It is one game
- If you go through the tape of every catch.. most throws were behind the receiver. Most throws were made from a clean pocket (see above) and to a receiver that was wide open (not NFL wide open but legit wide open). There were 3 spectacular throws to tight windows.. the rest were either poor throws to safe throws.
- 1 spectacular game should never equal a huge contract

So I will be keen to see how we go this year.. we have a lot of weapons on offence.. our OLine is getting back to dominant.. Zeke will be better for the run and our defence looks better than it has been for years.

I'm confident the Dak deal will get done but I wouldn't be paying overs.. he is a game manager and there are lots of them around.

Wow......that's bad. Care to explain that vague expert analysis?
 

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We start the season with lots of key starts signed to long term deals. We have stars in every phase. We play a dominant game against a division 'rival' and still arguments. I don't get it.

Why can't you just be a realist.. discussing your opinion on our team.. rather than being a 'hater' or 'slobberer' or whatever..

Dak was GREAT today.. like beyond excellent.. like if he brings that every week we will get a ring no doubt.. but does that mean we have to forget all the other factors?!
 

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Wow......that's bad. Care to explain that vague expert analysis?
Fine whatever.. rah rah.. Dak is the GOAT.. pay him Brady/Goff/Wilson type money based on one game against the Giants.

Lose Amari, Jones and others cause we can't afford to pay them.. yayaayayayay
 

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Remember when people thought Dak would be signed for $25M AAV?


Pepperidge Farms remembers....
 

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It’s dead right up until the next stinker, and then the title is right back tattooed on his forehead. The magical power of one game overreactions.

Honest question, @Super_Kazuya . What does one game really have to do with this, though? Dak has a 49-game sample to pull from. How does a single game drastically swing the pendulum in a direction that indicates anything other than the fact that we have a promising, developing, young QB on our hands?

Take a look at some of these splits. These categories cover his most recent stretch, his earliest stretch, his playoff agmes, and how he's done in the division:

LAST 16 GAMES
362 of 529 (68.4%) for 4,120 yards (7.8 YPA) ... 26 TDs to 8 INTs ... 101.6 rating

FIRST 16 GAMES
311 of 459 (67.8%) for 3,667 yards (7.9 YPA) ... 23 TDs to 4 INTs ... 104.9 rating

SEPTEMBER GAMES
229 of 353 (64.9%) for 2,614 yards (7.4 YPA) ... 14 TDs to 4 INTs ... 95.5 rating

DIVISIONAL GAMES
388 of 614 (63.2%) for 4,611 yards (7.5 YPA) ... 27 TDs to 8 INTs ... 95.3 rating

POSTSEASON
66 of 103 (64.1%) for 794 yards (7.7 YPA) ... 5 TDs to 2 INTs ... 95.7 rating

CAREER
1,000 of 1,507 (66.4%) for 11,281 yards (7.5 YPA) ... 71 TDs to 25 INTs ... 97.4 rating

None of this includes what he's done with his legs, because I think we are all in agreement that it's ultimately a quarterback's arm that will have to carry a team to the promise land.

Statistically, Dak has returned -- exceeded, really -- his breakout rookie performance. All while enhancing his overall mastery of the position and ability to attack a defense.

I'm not asking for a hyperbolic, jumping-up-and-down, enshrine-him now response from you or anyone else. But how can we not be collectively excited about this quarterback?
 

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New season, great win and yet same arguments. I have always described Dak as a dink and dunk game manager.. and that is both a positive and negative. I think our TEAM can have great success with Dak as a dink and dunk.

There shouldn't be an overreaction to the game either way. These are factors:
- Giants secondary is poor (like very poor)
- Giants pass rush is poor (non-existent)
- It is one game
- If you go through the tape of every catch.. most throws were behind the receiver. Most throws were made from a clean pocket (see above) and to a receiver that was wide open (not NFL wide open but legit wide open). There were 3 spectacular throws to tight windows.. the rest were either poor throws to safe throws.
- 1 spectacular game should never equal a huge contract

So I will be keen to see how we go this year.. we have a lot of weapons on offence.. our OLine is getting back to dominant.. Zeke will be better for the run and our defence looks better than it has been for years.

I'm confident the Dak deal will get done but I wouldn't be paying overs.. he is a game manager and there are lots of them around.

After a performance like this, you really need to look within if you are clinging to a few balls not leading the WR and a duck TD. Actually enjoy the long drives, red zone TDs and not needing to come from behind to win. Will harder times show up? Probably, so. But you know he can make all the the throws, especially the sweet deep passes (not even counting the ones dropped by Cooper). And to me, the ability means a lot to me. I often wondered of the play calls were holding him back. This small sample shows that he can indeed take the ball and pick apart a defense. Enjoy it and hope for more.
 

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After a performance like this, you really need to look within if you are clinging to a few balls not leading the WR and a duck TD. Actually enjoy the long drives, red zone TDs and not needing to come from behind to win. Will harder times show up? Probably, so. But you know he can make all the the throws, especially the sweet deep passes (not even counting the ones dropped by Cooper). And to me, the ability means a lot to me. I often wondered of the play calls were holding him back. This small sample shows that he can indeed take the ball and pick apart a defense. Enjoy it and hope for more.

I guess I don't "know" if he can make all the throws because to me.. to make the throws means you can do it consistently and under pressure. When you can execute those throws perfectly most of the time and under pressure.. then you can "make all the throws" in my book.

Absolutely LOVING the win today.. watching the third replay now.. and would 100% agree that our play calling was holding this entire offence back.. not just Dak. VERY excited to see that maybe we have finally got some creativity in there!!

I have always thought Dak can pick apart a defence in the right circumstances.. and especially with 3 solid targets and also the best RB in the league.. the question mark is whether he can pick apart a GOOD defence.. and consistently. That is my only question and I am hoping it is answered by the end of the season. We need Dak to be great if we want a ring.. and we ALL want a ring!!
 
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Honest question, @Super_Kazuya . What does one game really have to do with this, though? Dak has a 49-game sample to pull from. How does a single game drastically swing the pendulum in a direction that indicates anything other than the fact that we have a promising, developing, young QB on our hands?

Take a look at some of these splits. These categories cover his most recent stretch, his earliest stretch, his playoff agmes, and how he's done in the division:

LAST 16 GAMES
362 of 529 (68.4%) for 4,120 yards (7.8 YPA) ... 26 TDs to 8 INTs ... 101.6 rating

FIRST 16 GAMES
311 of 459 (67.8%) for 3,667 yards (7.9 YPA) ... 23 TDs to 4 INTs ... 104.9 rating

SEPTEMBER GAMES
229 of 353 (64.9%) for 2,614 yards (7.4 YPA) ... 14 TDs to 4 INTs ... 95.5 rating

DIVISIONAL GAMES
388 of 614 (63.2%) for 4,611 yards (7.5 YPA) ... 27 TDs to 8 INTs ... 95.3 rating

POSTSEASON
66 of 103 (64.1%) for 794 yards (7.7 YPA) ... 5 TDs to 2 INTs ... 95.7 rating

CAREER
1,000 of 1,507 (66.4%) for 11,281 yards (7.5 YPA) ... 71 TDs to 25 INTs ... 97.4 rating

None of this includes what he's done with his legs, because I think we are all in agreement that it's ultimately a quarterback's arm that will have to carry a team to the promise land.

Statistically, Dak has returned -- exceeded, really -- his breakout rookie performance. All while enhancing his overall mastery of the position and ability to attack a defense.

I'm not asking for a hyperbolic, jumping-up-and-down, enshrine-him now response from you or anyone else. But how can we not be collectively excited about this quarterback?
You are about to be accused of cherry picking your stats.

They want absolute perfection. Every. Single. Week.

He's not allowed to bave a bad game. Everybody else can, but not Dak.
 
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After a performance like this, you really need to look within if you are clinging to a few balls not leading the WR and a duck TD. Actually enjoy the long drives, red zone TDs and not needing to come from behind to win. Will harder times show up? Probably, so. But you know he can make all the the throws, especially the sweet deep passes (not even counting the ones dropped by Cooper). And to me, the ability means a lot to me. I often wondered of the play calls were holding him back. This small sample shows that he can indeed take the ball and pick apart a defense. Enjoy it and hope for more.

That's what I find most amazing. I don't see other fanbases chastising their QB's COMPLETIONS and TOUCHDOWNS because they could have been a little prettier.

I get it when a guy is in his first year, and you're trying to really get a feel for whether the stats are BS or not. But Dak has thrown for nearly 12,000 yards in this league with a completion percentage approaching 68%. It's not as if he can't complete a forward pass.
 

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We lose and there is bickering, fighting and name calling...

We win and there is bickering, fighting and name calling...

Go figure...:huh:


Go Cowboys! :flagwave:
 

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Just pay him whatever he wants and move on. He’s clearly more important than Zeke, is a better person than Zeke and shows up to work unlike Zeke yet we just caved to Zeke for a much more expendable position so what’s the hold up? Are we waiting on another QB to raise the price? Jones just did it for Cooper, Gurley did it for Zeke.
 

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Honest question, @Super_Kazuya . What does one game really have to do with this, though? Dak has a 49-game sample to pull from. How does a single game drastically swing the pendulum in a direction that indicates anything other than the fact that we have a promising, developing, young QB on our hands?

Take a look at some of these splits. These categories cover his most recent stretch, his earliest stretch, his playoff agmes, and how he's done in the division:

LAST 16 GAMES
362 of 529 (68.4%) for 4,120 yards (7.8 YPA) ... 26 TDs to 8 INTs ... 101.6 rating

FIRST 16 GAMES
311 of 459 (67.8%) for 3,667 yards (7.9 YPA) ... 23 TDs to 4 INTs ... 104.9 rating

SEPTEMBER GAMES
229 of 353 (64.9%) for 2,614 yards (7.4 YPA) ... 14 TDs to 4 INTs ... 95.5 rating

DIVISIONAL GAMES
388 of 614 (63.2%) for 4,611 yards (7.5 YPA) ... 27 TDs to 8 INTs ... 95.3 rating

POSTSEASON
66 of 103 (64.1%) for 794 yards (7.7 YPA) ... 5 TDs to 2 INTs ... 95.7 rating

CAREER
1,000 of 1,507 (66.4%) for 11,281 yards (7.5 YPA) ... 71 TDs to 25 INTs ... 97.4 rating

None of this includes what he's done with his legs, because I think we are all in agreement that it's ultimately a quarterback's arm that will have to carry a team to the promise land.

Statistically, Dak has returned -- exceeded, really -- his breakout rookie performance. All while enhancing his overall mastery of the position and ability to attack a defense.

I'm not asking for a hyperbolic, jumping-up-and-down, enshrine-him now response from you or anyone else. But how can we not be collectively excited about this quarterback?
Your overall point is the same as mine: I’ve seen 3 seasons of Dak so I’m not overreacting to one game. And going into this season with those 3 in the rear view he was generally regarded in the 16-20 range. One game doesn’t change that to me. I can always reevaluate at the end of the season.
I don’t begrudge anyone for being excited but the weird trolling after one game is embarrassing. I don’t recall stupidity like this after the 40-7 Jaguars game last year and the Jags actually have some players on D.
 

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Fully expect a deal to get done, I don't think todays game changes anything

It certainly shouldn't. If one game's performance can swing a couple million bucks in favor of the player, shouldn't a sub-par game send it back to the owner?
 
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