Jaylon contract theory mentioned on The Fan

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Another point in this discussion on the radio is that Jaylon has difficulty breaking to his right, the running back's left. They brought up a play where Smith fell when the running back cut back. But they attribute his lack of production this year to his weakness.The comment is the league now knows he cannot make a sharp cut, but has to switch to his right leg to make that move. Therefore running backs are advised to break left on him.

Just repeating their comments,
 

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He is on pace for 144 tackles this season. Not quite invisible.
I was talking about impactful plays. But thank you for the pointless statistical projection which means zero.

You have to admit, for whatever reason, our prized LB corps is not making plays.

In fact, the defense as a whole looks like they think their sole job is to bend but not break.

Perhaps it is by design. But both Smith and Vander Esch were the players that fueled the late season drive last year.

We could use a little more of that juice.
 

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I was talking about impactful plays. But thank you for the pointless statistical projection which means zero.

You have to admit, for whatever reason, our prized LB corps is not making plays.

In fact, the defense as a whole looks like they think their sole job is to bend but not break.

Perhaps it is by design. But both Smith and Vander Esch were the players that fueled the late season drive last year.

We could look a little more of that juice.
Ahem... it's Vandem Bottom.
 

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I was talking about impactful plays. But thank you for the pointless statistical projection which means zero.

You have to admit, for whatever reason, our prized LB corps is not making plays.

In fact, the defense as a whole looks like they think their sole job is to bend but not break.

Perhaps it is by design. But both Smith and Vander Esch were the players that fueled the late season drive last year.

We could look a little more of that juice.

Yeah, Im looking for more juice from the entire front 7 at this point.
 

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Ahem... it's Vandem Bottom.
And it may not be their fault, that's my point.

Right now, we are all about shock and awe with the offense.

I get it.

Sometimes the natural reaction is to coast.

But eventually the defense has to make a play here or there.

We are not sacking the QB. We are not forcing turnovers.

What will happen if {gasp} we fall behind by more than a score?

I just hope they are prepared for that, which will happen now we are headed into the meat of our schedule.

Play time is over.
 

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Yeah, Im looking for more juice from the entire front 7 at this point.
The front four does what they do. I don't believe in a lot of Marinelli's concepts but I guess we are okay with how he does things.

The LBs are a puzzle to me. They seem productive, but it is nothing like last season. This year you have to really search for splash plays from the pair and even when you do, you come up empty.
 

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No idea.

But the "discounted rate" may be debatable.

Now that OCs have had time to closely evaluate him as a full time starter, they can see there are gaping holes in his game due to that leg.
In space, the man can not move laterally very well at all. He was borderline terrible last game.

Love the guy and am so inspired by him....and he has his value if used properly and limited. But unless he's rushing the passer, he can be a liability in clear passing situations.
Then again, maybe he is playing hurt and we don't know about it.
Love the comeback story too but I fully side with you on this one. Was hoping for an even more healthy and confident Smith this season but it’s clearly gone in reverse.
 

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I was talking about impactful plays. But thank you for the pointless statistical projection which means zero.

You have to admit, for whatever reason, our prized LB corps is not making plays.

In fact, the defense as a whole looks like they think their sole job is to bend but not break.

Perhaps it is by design. But both Smith and Vander Esch were the players that fueled the late season drive last year.

We could use a little more of that juice.

I say bring the purple dranker back and hope he plays like he did before. He easily be the best LB. You know what they say about someone or an desperate animal, do not corner it.
 

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I was talking about impactful plays. But thank you for the pointless statistical projection which means zero.

You have to admit, for whatever reason, our prized LB corps is not making plays.

In fact, the defense as a whole looks like they think their sole job is to bend but not break.

Perhaps it is by design. But both Smith and Vander Esch were the players that fueled the late season drive last year.

We could use a little more of that juice.
I’m beginning to think it may be by design. I could be off here but it appears that the LB’s are lining up deeper from the LOS so as to keep offensive lineman from getting on them. Think Rams last January.

Whatever the case it’s night and day from ‘18.
 

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I’m rolling with the theory that Jaylon is a young stud l, wants to be here, and with deep pockets and a favorable cap situation Jerry and Stephen made it happen. Call me crazy.
 

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Back in 2016 according to Dr. Dan Cooper, the issue wasn't degenerative. Smith's leg structurally healed, but there was a chance his nerve would not fire to 100% though he called the chances then "Very good" that it would.

As of last year his nerve had fully healed, there's no reason it'd go back the other way from what Cooper said then, so unless there's some odd new wrinkle that no one talked about yet, I'm not sure I buy this.

Smith's issues may be more mental than physical. He may need a few games to work the kinks out of how he's overcompensated in the past for the injury. He looked like he needed it last year too.

I'm an exec for a publisher and my company's finishing up publishing a book from a Sports Medicine mental health professional that's 250 pages of case studies and stories about just that thing. Sometimes the hardest thing with a sports injury is training the athletes out of bad habits they earn while injured, especially long term. It's not something that gets fixed overnight and there can be regression especially after off seasons. His book primarily deals with Soccer and the NBA, which he has worked in, but I imagine his stories have a lot of similar ones in the NFL.

We need to send him (and a few others on defense) to a proctologist and see if we can find their head!
(J/K cuz I know how everybody LOVES our defense!)
 

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Back in 2016 according to Dr. Dan Cooper, the issue wasn't degenerative. Smith's leg structurally healed, but there was a chance his nerve would not fire to 100% though he called the chances then "Very good" that it would.

As of last year his nerve had fully healed, there's no reason it'd go back the other way from what Cooper said then, so unless there's some odd new wrinkle that no one talked about yet, I'm not sure I buy this.

Smith's issues may be more mental than physical. He may need a few games to work the kinks out of how he's overcompensated in the past for the injury. He looked like he needed it last year too.

I'm an exec for a publisher and my company's finishing up publishing a book from a Sports Medicine mental health professional that's 250 pages of case studies and stories about just that thing. Sometimes the hardest thing with a sports injury is training the athletes out of bad habits they earn while injured, especially long term. It's not something that gets fixed overnight and there can be regression especially after off seasons. His book primarily deals with Soccer and the NBA, which he has worked in, but I imagine his stories have a lot of similar ones in the NFL.
I know through personal experience a severe direct impact on a previously damaged nerve can cause issues.
 

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There was never a report that the nerve healed 100%. I suspect its about 80% and he has a hard time cutting. It shows up when he is in a stopped position and has to make a quick lateral move off a plant. I doubt it's a degenerative knee at this point.

I will say I was never confident he was 100% recovered. I think we would have heard that he was fully recovered if he was.
 
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