Dak, proves he's average. Needs to be paid so **merged**

Cowboys22

Cowboys22

Well-Known Member
Messages
10,507
Reaction score
11,384
I was back on Dak’s bandwagon after the 1st 3 games. He just looked like such a different QB that I was convinced it would translate to better competition. I obviously didn’t think it would be as easy but I thought he would at least play well, look confident, and still be that rock of a leader in the huddle. I now find myself stuck in limbo somewhere. I can’t decide if he reverted to playing like he did last year because they reverted back to a gameplan and called plays like they did last year or was it due to the better competition. One thing I can’t shake though, if he want to be paid like Russell Wilson then he really should be able to win a game like that but then again NO spanked the Seahawks much worse just last week so who knows. I’m so confused right now.
 
shabazz

shabazz

Well-Known Member
Messages
16,736
Reaction score
30,907
Cowboys22 said:
I was back on Dak’s bandwagon after the 1st 3 games. He just looked like such a different QB that I was convinced it would translate to better competition. I obviously didn’t think it would be as easy but I thought he would at least play well, look confident, and still be that rock of a leader in the huddle. I now find myself stuck in limbo somewhere. I can’t decide if he reverted to playing like he did last year because they reverted back to a gameplan and called plays like they did last year or was it due to the better competition. One thing I can’t shake though, if he want to be paid like Russell Wilson then he really should be able to win a game like that but then again NO spanked the Seahawks much worse just last week so who knows. I’m so confused right now.
Click to expand...

Shouldn't be any confusion on your part. He simply buckled when under duress, like last season. Buying Dakotas performance and the Hyperventilating Threads about it after playing 3 of the NFLs Worst Defenses was purely, Fools Gold.
 

DoubleJHeat

New Member
Messages
18
Reaction score
6
Dak is a top 10 QB. Oline was disappointing and Cooper needs to step up vs better teams.
 
shabazz

shabazz

Well-Known Member
Messages
16,736
Reaction score
30,907
Diehardblues said:
He might be average against the more Elite teams but he plays at a high level against the worse teams.

I’d schedule more bottom feeder teams. Ha

As poorly as we played we still were in it until final drive.

Good news is we can still hang with the more Elite teams even if we lose some of them. And why we’ll pay Dak.
Click to expand...

The Saints have a backup QB and the 26th ranked Defense. I hope to God that doesn't make them Elite.
 
Vtwin

Vtwin

Safety third
Messages
8,117
Reaction score
11,043
Question.
In my recollection it's been common practice for decades to give the QB the ability to change plays at the line after getting a read on the defense. Many, many times in that game it was apparent the defense was playing run first. 7 guys up close and usually a safety drawn up playing tight on the TE. Impossible to tell from TV coverage but if there are eight guys up close doesn't that leave only 3 guys covering the WR's. If this is obvious to little ol me sitting on the couch shouldn't it be obvious to the fourth year starter who is looking for top tier money? Also, shouldn't the experienced, top dollar seeking QB be able to beat one on one coverage significantly more often then not? Shouldn't an elite QB be feasting on defenses that don't respect the passing game?

Why aren't we seeing more changing the plays at the line to take advantage of the obvious tendencies of the defense?
 
shabazz

shabazz

Well-Known Member
Messages
16,736
Reaction score
30,907
Frozen700 said:
The fact you all bring up Brady in a Dak argument, shows me either you all don't know football, or are trolls.
Click to expand...

I guess Brady was brought up because we have seen numerous "Dak is the Best QB in the NFL" threads in this forum. The poor souls were actually believing this nonsense
 
Diehardblues

Diehardblues

Well-Known Member
Messages
55,345
Reaction score
36,504
shabazz said:
The Saints have a backup QB and the 26th ranked Defense. I hope to God that doesn't make them Elite.
Click to expand...
Since they were in championship game last year I’d consider them one of the better teams in NFC.

This same roster just went out to Seattle and beat them.
 

QuincyCarterEra

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,324
Reaction score
10,736
shabazz said:
I guess Brady was brought up because we have seen numerous "Dak is the Best QB in the NFL" threads in this forum. The poor souls were actually believing this nonsense
Click to expand...

And other fools actually think he is average or worse. It is what it is.
 

Silverz1972

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,579
Reaction score
2,230
QuincyCarterEra said:
And other fools actually think he is average or worse. It is what it is.
Click to expand...

Dak is who he is. He a bus driver. Capable of succeeding with a talented team around him. Definitely not top tier in the league. He works hard at his craft and has a lot of support so he is over achieving.

If you think he is top five, you will be sorely disappointed.

Can we win with him? yes.
 
ABQCOWBOY

ABQCOWBOY

Regular Joe....
Messages
58,929
Reaction score
27,716
It is my belief that Dak will, at some point, develop into a QB who sees and identifies the vulnerabilities in a defense. They were there on Sunday, we just didn't attack them. We failed for a lot of reasons but mostly, we couldn't get ourselves into a position to take advantage of opportunities. Go back and watch the game. Backs in the passing game were ignored. That's what we should have attacked. That would have forced the LBs and Corners to play honest. He will get there, I believe, but he's clearly not there yet. He needs to learn. He's not the best, but if you give him the right Offense and the right personnel, he can be very effective IMO.
 

QuincyCarterEra

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,324
Reaction score
10,736
Silverz1972 said:
Dak is who he is. He a bus driver. Capable of succeeding with a talented team around him. Definitely not top tier in the league. He works hard at his craft and has a lot of support so he is over achieving.

If you think he is top five, you will be sorely disappointed.

Can we win with him? yes.
Click to expand...

Bus driver's don't do what he does in 2 min situations. Still associating bus driver with Dak shows a lack of touch with reality.

"Capable of succeeding with a talented team around him"- Same with all but maybe three QBs in the league

Top 5 right now? No.
Once Brady and company retire? Who knows.
 
csirl

csirl

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,714
Reaction score
4,014
Virginia-Dave said:
This loss was not on Dak. Please save all "Dak Sucks!" threads for after a game that is actually Dak's fault. Thank you.
Click to expand...

Its not that Dak sucks. It's that Dak didn't do anything special to give the Cowboys the edge. Genuine top 5 QBs make a difference in this type of game.

To be honest, there was no real difference between the 6m per year QB on one team and who we are told is a 36m per year QB on the other.
 
Ken

Ken

Well-Known Member
Messages
16,536
Reaction score
17,186
Cowboys22 said:
I was back on Dak’s bandwagon after the 1st 3 games. He just looked like such a different QB that I was convinced it would translate to better competition. I obviously didn’t think it would be as easy but I thought he would at least play well, look confident, and still be that rock of a leader in the huddle. I now find myself stuck in limbo somewhere. I can’t decide if he reverted to playing like he did last year because they reverted back to a gameplan and called plays like they did last year or was it due to the better competition. One thing I can’t shake though, if he want to be paid like Russell Wilson then he really should be able to win a game like that but then again NO spanked the Seahawks much worse just last week so who knows. I’m so confused right now.
Click to expand...
You need to not change like the wind....make up your mind and stick with it. At least I can give people like Pappy credit for being resolute in their horrible analysis. They will go down with the ship, that is admirable.

This is pathetic...come on man...lol
 

QuincyCarterEra

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,324
Reaction score
10,736
csirl said:
Its not that Dak sucks. It's that Dak didn't do anything special to give the Cowboys the edge. Genuine top 5 QBs make a difference in this type of game.

To be honest, there was no real difference between the 6m per year QB on one team and who we are told is a 36m per year QB on the other.
Click to expand...

To be honest the game would have been over by halftime if you switched Dak and Teddy. At least a 16 point loss.
 
jnday

jnday

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,292
Reaction score
11,422
JGRXXN said:
Mane shut yo lookin ah up... lol y'all are some funny dudes man I swear... Back it up with stats and facts
Click to expand...
The one stat or fact, depending on what you want to call it, is that the Saint’s defense shut Zeke down in an attempt to make Dak beat them by passing. Dak couldn’t do it. That is the only fact that matters.
 
InTheZone

InTheZone

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,520
Reaction score
7,122
Hadenough said:
Bingo! The Saints decided they were not going to let Zeke beat them and knew Dak couldnt beat them over the top so they crowded the line of scrimmage. They also knew that Cooper could hurt them in Zone but Dak wasnt consistently accurate enough to beat man to man. The one big play to Jarwin was open all night and they went to it once.
Click to expand...
All i know is that I can't think of a time our defense consistently hounded the line like the saints did on defense. There would be 3 or 4 guys waiting on zeke as he got to the line on some occasions.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top