Hard to forgive icing Austin

RustyBourneHorse · Nov 11, 2019

PA Cowboy Fan said:
Clock would have stopped when Austin went down anyway.

All the more reason to point to Garrett being a liar.

RustyBourneHorse · Nov 11, 2019

KMY_Amber said:
Maybe Garrett didn't make the call, maybe it was the special teams coach, but SOMEone did, because he called for the fair catch way too soon.

But it's just another coaching mistake in a LONG LINE of them for Garrett or his staff. To be expected.

I think JJ's getting tired, he's too old, and he's not able to see the light at the end of the Superbowl tunnel. I expect a change to be made in the offseason.

Garrett has the power to overrule that, so yes, I blame him for that.

OmerV · Nov 11, 2019

JohnsKey19 said:
Garrett is full of it. There's no way Austin, who is dying to make a play, ices himself by faircatching with no defender within 20 yards. Garrett should be ashamed to insinuate such a thing. Great leader he is...

The Cowboys may well have told him to fair catch unless he was confident of a chance for a big runback, which would have been the right thing to convey, but that doesn't mean he was told he had no choice and to fair catch no matter the situation.

texbumthelife · Nov 11, 2019

Everything Garrett says comes with built in caveats that give him plausible deniability for every negative thing this team does. He's not just a lame duck head coach, he's a spineless finger wager who refuses to take any blame.

OmerV · Nov 11, 2019

PA Cowboy Fan said:
Clock would have stopped when Austin went down anyway.

There were only 24 seconds left when the ball was snapped for the punt, and by the time Austin caught it probably about 18-19 seconds, so running another 5-8 seconds off would have been bad if he didn't make a big play. Accordingly, if the Cowboys told him to fair catch unless he feels like he has a lot of running room, that would have been the right call. If they told him to fair catch no matter what, that would have been wrong. In fairness, we don't know what he was told.

nate dizzle · Nov 11, 2019

ShortRound131 said:
There's a tweet saying Austin was "doing what he was told" and then Garrett said this:

That is one big steaming pile of mess. Can't believe I used to defend this spineless sack. Has he ever once stood up there and said, "You know what, this one's on me?"

Creeper · Nov 11, 2019

That's a cop out. In crucial situations you make sure what you want your players to do. Looking at that picture, there is a 70% chance Austin runs it back all the way for a TD. I can't believe how much room they can Austin outside. Even if he gets it to the 20 they are much better off.

But I'll stick with my previous comments. They lost this game when they had 1st and 10 from the Vikings 15 with plenty of time on the clock. There was no way they could have known that the Vikings would do such a poor job of covering that punt. My guess is the Cowboys expected the Vikings would emphasize punt coverage. Instead the focused on protecting against the block. Buty if the players on unprepared to make the right decision then its the coaches fault for not preparing them.

Captain43Crash · Nov 11, 2019

JohnsKey19 said:
Garrett is full of it. There's no way Austin, who is dying to make a play, ices himself by faircatching with no defender within 20 yards. Garrett should be ashamed to insinuate such a thing. Great leader he is...

Garrett should not have put hesitation in Austin’s head! He should have looked him in the eye and said, “go out and make a play”. This fair catch is definitely on Garrett!!!

Captain43Crash · Nov 11, 2019

texbumthelife said:
Everything Garrett says comes with built in caveats that give him plausible deniability for every negative thing this team does. He's not just a lame duck head coach, he's a spineless finger wager who refuses to take any blame.

He has always been this way too!!

Jarv · Nov 11, 2019

ShortRound131 said:
There's a tweet saying Austin was "doing what he was told" and then Garrett said this:

Where is the picture of Garrett grabbing his face mask and yelling at him for making a fair catch, telling him he had a wall setup, just like I designed and you fair caught the damn ball!!!

If I saw that, JG would have a leg to stand on. What a piece of crap JG is!

flosho · Nov 11, 2019

Honestly, look how quickly Austin calls that fair catch, probably before he even fully realized how much running space he had.. He's running east/west to catch the punt and already calling fair catch.

Then after he catches it and sees no one for 15 yards - immediately regrets listening to his coach.

flosho · Nov 11, 2019

Also it looked like the Cowboys were not trying to block the punt(?), but trying to block for a return... while MN was in max protect for the punt.. Which is probably why there was so much room.

Moral of the story - Garrett is an idiot.

DC4L_0420 · Nov 11, 2019

just another "what if" with this team in a losing effort.

Roadtrip635 · Nov 11, 2019

Bullflop said:
This tweet reveals the sort of confusion that exists due to JGs less than effective instructions. He put the onus of decision-making in the hands of a seldom-used player. Once the confusion manifested itself, Garrett blamed the player for the unclear instructions that he, himself gave. It ended as an unfortunate setup for failure. He should have taken half the blame for infusing the situation with more confusion than necessary. Arrogant people like JG routinely have big trouble admitting to their failings.

TheMarathonContinues · Nov 11, 2019

DC4L_0420 said:
just another "what if" with this team in a losing effort.

Yeah and I'm tired of it. At the end of the day they had the ball in their hands last and failed. We can what if it to death but the outcome will be the same this week and the weeks to comeif they don't start playing and coaching better.

DC4L_0420 · Nov 11, 2019

rocyaice said:
Yeah and I'm tired of it. At the end of the day they had the ball in their hands last and failed. We can what if it to death but the outcome will be the same this week and the weeks to comeif they don't start playing and coaching better.

Facts Bro. I couldn't have said it any better.

MysteryIceGuro · Nov 11, 2019

Imagine throwing your QB, OC, and ST/WR under the bus in one day. Does this man have no shame?

OmerV · Nov 11, 2019

Creeper said:
That's a cop out. In crucial situations you make sure what you want your players to do. Looking at that picture, there is a 70% chance Austin runs it back all the way for a TD. I can't believe how much room they can Austin outside. Even if he gets it to the 20 they are much better off.

But I'll stick with my previous comments. They lost this game when they had 1st and 10 from the Vikings 15 with plenty of time on the clock. There was no way they could have known that the Vikings would do such a poor job of covering that punt. My guess is the Cowboys expected the Vikings would emphasize punt coverage. Instead the focused on protecting against the block. Buty if the players on unprepared to make the right decision then its the coaches fault for not preparing them.

They don't tell players not to make a big play … they may well have told Austin to fair catch unless he was confident of a big play. At that point Austin has to make a choice.

KalEl · Nov 11, 2019

If we were only going to fair catch it Cobb would have been out there not Austin.

OmerV · Nov 11, 2019

AmariChill said:
Imagine throwing your QB, OC, and ST/WR under the bus in one day. Does this man have no shame?

I'm still not sure he did that. If asked a question by the media, is he supposed to lie and say there were no options - no ability to call an audible, no decisions for anyone to make on the sidelines or on the field?

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