Did 21 get benched for a drive?

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GMO415 said:
We all watched the same game. 21 was playing like an old white turd in the grass. He suddenly got "benched" and Pollard made the best of an opportunity.

Or, JG wanted to give the NFL's highest paid RB some rest......I'm not buying it.
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Dak actually touched on that. He said they weren’t going to keep butting their heads into a wall like previous week. What I didn’t like,was why it took that far into game to change it up. That’s a Garrett staple...waiting too long on in game changes. Remember ..Chaz Green? There you go...
 

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The Fonz said:
I respect your point of view however Jerry is too much in the spotlight .He is casting a big shadow over everyone else.we did change coaches change players and the team still mediocre at its best. At some point the owner has to be blamed.
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Has much to do with that. Structure of organization and Jones family interests. His mind is split...business interests and team GM. You can’t be as effective spilt. Good GM requires full attention year round. Jerry’s life alone prevents that....he’s too big.
 
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Chrispierce said:
Has much to do with that. Structure of organization and Jones family interests. His mind is split...business interests and team GM. You can’t be as effective spilt. Good GM requires full attention year round. Jerry’s life alone prevents that....he’s too big.
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and that's the elephant in the room.
 
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DallasDW00ds0n said:
Coming from a holdout offseason with zero camp, we can’t pretend a 4.2 ypc is bad. Pollards .5 higher is coming off such a smaller sample it can’t be compared.

Bringing up Pollard on the 2pt isn’t really driving the point when Zeke is the one who scored the TD, off a crazy catch nonetheless.
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I MIGHT buy the holdout excuse if he had multiple bad games to start the season but having just the first a bad one but then he had a couple of 100+ yard games. We are at week 12 now or at the 3/4 mark of the season and how long can anyone continue to TRY to used the no training camp excuse. During a normal preseason Elliott MIGHT see A SERIES in the 1st 2 preseason games and not see any real playing time until the 1st half of the 3rd preseason game and nothing in the 4th so lets not to TRY to use that as an excuse. Now I don't know if this is what Elliott will look like from here on in but so far this season he's not produced like he has in the past.
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cowboyed said:
It's management decision making by committee and Jerry is the tie breaker. He doesn't work the hours the coaches do. He is either promoting the team and being the spokesperson. He even isn't a full fledged GM more of a figurehead but hey he is the owner. Stephen Jones and Will McClay are the defacto GMs. I guess Robert Kraft Patriots owner is a meddler since he recently stated he was trying to get Gronkowski back. What nerve bypassing the GM and head coach Bill Belichik. Doesn't Kraft have enough on his plate including soliciting sex at massage parlors?
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I can't wait to hear how you know what is being discussed by whom behind closed doors and who decides what and exactly what hours they do this. Jerry has said in the past that Stephen has taking the point on SOME of the contract negotiations. It's funny, not ha ha funny, that it's been publicly stated that it was Jerry that led the discussions and negotiating in the Cooper, Quinn and Bennett trades like the real GM would. Maybe you stay out of the fan reporting business because your sources haven't been to reliable.
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TheSkaven said:
Stop, just stop. This is still the best offensive line in the league. Dak had all day to throw the ball this week. Pollard this season is averaging 4.7 yards per carry; ironically the same 4.7 that Zeke averaged last year. And that was with an offensive line that gave up double the number of sacks as they’re on pace to give up this year.

I get it, you’re a Zeke fan. But come on man, point the finger at who is to blame. Against the Vikings, Zeke averaged almost 2 yards per carry against 5 and 6 man fronts. It’s not the line, it’s Zeke. Trust your eyes. The guy looks like he is running through mud or with 25 pound weights on his legs.
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Zekes yardage this year is down by 112 yards from last year. Guess where those yards went? Tony Pollard. Check the stats and compare. Btw, pass blocking is much easier than run blocking.
 
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GMO415 said:
We all watched the same game. 21 was playing like an old white turd in the grass. He suddenly got "benched" and Pollard made the best of an opportunity.

Or, JG wanted to give the NFL's highest paid RB some rest......I'm not buying it.
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Stop negative crap. Pollard been one series every game mostly in the second half. Does EE to start balling better yes. If he doesn’t we don’t stand a chance.
The run game needs to be more consistent to protect are defense. Defense has been very disappointing- as the case almost every year
 
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The Fonz said:
I respect your point of view however Jerry is too much in the spotlight .He is casting a big shadow over everyone else.we did change coaches change players and the team still mediocre at its best. At some point the owner has to be blamed.
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Most certainly Jerry needs to blamed. But there is plenty of blame to go around. Stephen Jones, Garrett, McClay, our coordinators, special teams coach and let's not forget our players. I don't think there is anything wrong with Jerry being in the spot light since he is the owner. Now how much he is in the spot light deserves debating. If you owned a multi-billion sports franchise your hands have to be in that cookie jar to some degree. There is hope though. Stephen Jones has been in the media more and Jerry is at his age won't be able to keep it up as he used to. If you look at the NFL it is a promotion oriented professional sports league as others. In fact the NFL compels not only players, but coaches, management and even ownership to be media oriented, as long as they don't criticize their league.
 
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cowboyed said:
Most certainly Jerry needs to blamed. But there is plenty of blame to go around. Stephen Jones, Garrett, McClay, our coordinators, special teams coach and let's not forget our players. I don't think there is anything wrong with Jerry being in the spot light since he is the owner. Now how much he is in the spot light deserves debating. If you owned a multi-billion sports franchise your hands have to be in that cookie jar to some degree. There is hope though. Stephen Jones has been in the media more and Jerry is at his age won't be able to keep it up as he used to. If you look at the NFL it is a promotion oriented professional sports league as others. In fact the NFL compels not only players, but coaches, management and even ownership to be media oriented, as long as they don't criticize their league.
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I agree and i have no faith in is son to be better.
 
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jaybird said:
Stop negative crap. Pollard been one series every game mostly in the second half. Does EE to start balling better yes. If he doesn’t we don’t stand a chance.
The run game needs to be more consistent to protect are defense. Defense has been very disappointing- as the case almost every year
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I agree with your post. The offensive line has to do a better job at run blocking as well. But the rest of the season may come down to more of shared running game scenario with Pollard and Zeke. Zeke was not productive running against the Lions but who made that nifty catch on that side arm sling pass by Dak and blazed into the end zone to ice the game. That was Zeke.
 
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