News: Some details on the procedure LVE will have

Cowboysheelsreds053 · Dec 26, 2019

And that is the key, the physicality of the NFL is a different animal and will not know till he gets back out there.

cowboy_ron · Dec 26, 2019

CalPolyTechnique said:
I had Asian fusion for lunch.

Did it hurt?

LatinMind · Dec 26, 2019

Kaiser said:
With the VA the care you get varies a lot depending on where you are. I had a hip replacement done at the West VA facility (at a cost of zero) that was done by the head of Sports Ortho for UCLA Medical Center. He is one of the top surgeons for that in the country and did a perfect job. The physical therapist was top notch too, because that facility is one of the best anywhere for amputees.

But I also talked to a guy in recovery that started at a VA in South Carolina that was incompetent, so he did his homework on who had the best facility, then flew to LA on his own dime.

agree my point really wasnt on the Va care but just that Vander Esch is gonna the best care doing this procedure. Nobody thought Jaylon was going to be play again.

Birdgang · Dec 26, 2019

LatinMind said:
Wth my dad having knee replacements from abuse and injuries in the army i will say the government isnt paying for top treatment of its soldiers im sorry. IM 100% positive the treatment you got and the treatment the gov paid for is nowhere near the care the team will pay to get him healthy.

Who said I went through the VA ? I had at the time the best insurance a person could have in Personal Choice Blue Cross Blue Shield PPO. Hence why I was able to go to so many different docs for opinions. I even met with the surgeons of both 76ers and the Eagles as my father " a doctor himself" worked with some of them and both teams in past for certain things. When you are a Docs kid you are treated much differently then a normal person. Im guessing some to do with professional courtesy and some that they know they will be watched with microscope

Echo9 said:
I recently went with this disc replacement option after a really bad herniation. Same C5/C6. The procedure went very well for me and I lost no range of motion. I was pretty much back to normal about 3 weeks after the surgery. I'd think this'd be a better option than fusion, though it's a far newer procedure (only 5 years approved in the US). But at the same time, maybe it's not meant to hold up to the hits of the NFL.

A persons age is a factor as well since its such a new procedure. The fact that dont know what will happen in 15-30 years is why you will see older people 50+ . I kinda pushed for this for myself and was swayed against it.

Bowdown27 · Dec 26, 2019

texbumthelife said:
Oh, so his career isn't over and *shocker* the people playing doctor here should stick to picking scabs.

Stop it. Talking the truth and all that. No one can handle it lol

Kaiser · Dec 26, 2019

LatinMind said:
agree my point really wasnt on the Va care but just that Vander Esch is gonna the best care doing this procedure. Nobody thought Jaylon was going to be play again.

Yup, the medical staff on this team is one of the few things that went right over the last couple of years.

WarDaddy · Dec 26, 2019

Well...this should be a linebacker heavy draft. We honestly need 3 now.

Along with interior D linemen and an entire secondary.

randy932 · Dec 26, 2019

perrykemp said:
“Vander Esch will have his surgery in a few weeks. The Cowboys had been hoping medically tyuhreating his cervical herniation of the disk between the fifth and sixth vertebrae would reduce the swelling. The most recent examination reveals no herniation reduction.

Vander Esch will now undergo an anterior cervical discectomy with fusion procedure. This entails removing the herniated disk and using bone from the hip to fuse into the space between the two vertebrae.

Typically full recovery takes four months. This is not expected to be career threatening, and know several former Cowboys players underwent this procedure and continued their careers: Daryl Johnston, Rocket Ismail, Chad Hennings and Izell Reese to name a few.”

Read the rest here: https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/merry-shots-of-lve-worst-fears-and-gifts

perrykemp said:
“Vander Esch will have his surgery in a few weeks. The Cowboys had been hoping medically treating his cervical herniation of the disk between the fifth and sixth vertebrae would reduce the swelling. The most recent examination reveals no herniation reduction.

Vander Esch will now undergo an anterior cervical discectomy with fusion procedure. This entails removing the herniated disk and using bone from the hip to fuse into the space between the two vertebrae.

Typically full recovery takes four months. This is not expected to be career threatening, and know several former Cowboys players underwent this procedure and continued their careers: Daryl Johnston, Rocket Ismail, Chad Hennings and Izell Reese to name a few.”

Read the rest here: https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/merry-shots-of-lve-worst-fears-and-gifts

I want to know why will they wait "a few weeks " before the surgery is done. My wife has had this surgery done due to being involved in a rear end collision. 10 years later she had to undergo another surgery fusing 4 vertebra instead of the original 2 vertebra. It was required to have a titanium plate with 4 screws to help with stability. She was not playing football. She did nothing more physical than ballroom dancing. But the original surgery was "slumping" resulting in severe stenosis. Immediately after the surgery she could not lift either arm beyond a position of halfway between hanging straight, and halfway to horizontal position. It scared all of us. It has been 5 years now, she has undergone a ton of physical therapy. Lots of exercises on her own. So now she has about a 90% use of her right arm and about 45% use of her left. She has a lot of pain. She is pondering having surgery to her lower spine, where she now has 7 bulging discs and 1 herniated disc. She is doing another recommended routine of physical therapy.

Don't ever think spine surgery is a simple fix.

LatinMind · Dec 26, 2019

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Echo9 · Dec 26, 2019

Birdgang said:
Who said I went through the VA ? I had at the time the best insurance a person could have in Personal Choice Blue Cross Blue Shield PPO. Hence why I was able to go to so many different docs for opinions. I even met with the surgeons of both 76ers and the Eagles as my father " a doctor himself" worked with some of them and both teams in past for certain things. When you are a Docs kid you are treated much differently then a normal person. Im guessing some to do with professional courtesy and some that they know they will be watched with microscope

A persons age is a factor as well since its such a new procedure. The fact that dont know what will happen in 15-30 years is why you will see older people 50+ . I kinda pushed for this for myself and was swayed against it.

I was told the replacement I had done had a 70 year life span. But I guess they can't really know that with only 5 years of records. Here's hoping.

JJHLH1 · Dec 26, 2019

An ACDF is a major procedure. It’s certainly not minimally invasive. LVE will have reduced range of motion in his neck, and the levels above and below the fusion will undergo more strain since they will have to compensate for the fused level.

He can certainly come back and play, but I’d feel a lot more optimistic if he was playing a less physical position.

Richmond Cowboy · Dec 26, 2019

Aviano90 said:
Seems like a lot of work for a "stinger".

He was stung by a Pterodactyl

buybuydandavis · Dec 26, 2019

Have they announced what the hell's wrong with Jaylon yet?

InTheZone · Dec 26, 2019

so surgery in a few weeks rather than early this season....wow

Birdgang · Dec 26, 2019

Echo9 said:
I was told the replacement I had done had a 70 year life span. But I guess they can't really know that with only 5 years of records. Here's hoping.

When I went looking it was also 6 years ago

perrykemp · Dec 26, 2019

InTheZone said:
so surgery in a few weeks rather than early this season....wow

They hoped the swelling would have gone down. It hasn’t.

erod · Dec 27, 2019

Kaiser said:
No, he isn't. He is a Will that spends at least half his snaps in coverage. This would be different if he was a DL, but he isn't.

You saw what thre Mike looks like with Jaylon. Yikes.

Doesn't matter. Any linebacker position requires a lot of head to head contact.

erod · Dec 27, 2019

texbumthelife said:
Maybe, at the very least, we could try and stay positive until next season. I know that's almost as foreign around here as a winning attitude, but it's worth a shot.

Those of us who have had back issues and spoken to doctors know that back surgery is minimally effective.

And that's just for general living. Not playing NFL football in the trenches.

They need to make plans to be without him this offseason. He may be able to play, but not long most likely.

TheHerd · Dec 27, 2019

InTheZone said:
so surgery in a few weeks rather than early this season....wow

This is what I don't get. What changed? It was the same injury a month ago. He could be rehabbing right now.

Kaiser · Dec 27, 2019

erod said:
Those of us who have had back issues and spoken to doctors know that back surgery is minimally effective.

Those of us who have taken Tylenol are experts on the Pharmaceutical Industry. Or something.

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