What do you think of McCarthy as HC thread

iceberg

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How about we hire coach and give him control over football operations completely. Which means hiring his own staff having control over the players there. Making it his own identity. I understand that Jerry and his son want to get the players here but having a coach like this smells like it's the same stuff again and there won't be any real change for the better in the long run.
and a coach has been hired who's supposed to be out there looking for a staff now.

*MAYBE* that is what is happening. while i agree if jones says "here's your staff" we're business as usual with just another face. but i'm going to wait and see if it does happen like that first. get mad *if* it does. not beforehand.
 

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He's also a Pittsburgh guy, which personally is kind of cool for me.
 

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He weighed his options and decided there were much better steakhouses in Dallas than NY. Go Cowboys!
 

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Some of you guys are just griping to be griping..........I think he has like a .670 winning % 4 NFC championships and a SB..........I'm excited to see what he does here.
 

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Again 9 out of 13 years in the playoffs. Yes he had rodgers, i ask.... go look at those teams. What else did the guy have? Yes he had the best qb in the league, but never a legit run game. Never really a consistent defense. The front office didn't do a great job.
 

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Look at this gutless decision making in the 2014 NFCG (played at home):


1 9:47 1 7 SEA 7 Eddie Lacy up the middle for 6 yards (tackle by Demarcus Dobbs) 0 0 5.600 5.910
1 9:11 2 1 SEA 1 John Kuhn up the middle for no gain (tackle by Kevin Williams and Bobby Wagner) 0 0
Replay Assistant challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the original play was overturned. 1 8:56 3 1 SEA 1 Eddie Lacy left guard for no gain (tackle by Malcolm Smith and Bruce Irvin) 0 0 5.170 1 8:10 4 1 SEA 1 Mason Crosby 19 yard field goal good

1 7 SEA 7 Eddie Lacy up the middle for 1 yard (tackle by Tony McDaniel and Bobby Wagner) 3 0 5.600
1 5:53 2 6 SEA 6 Aaron Rodgers pass incomplete short left intended for Jordy Nelson 3 0 4.950 4.040
1 5:48 3 6 SEA 6 Aaron Rodgers pass complete short right to Randall Cobb for 5 yards (tackle by Earl 1 5:10 4 1 SEA 1 Mason Crosby 19 yard field goal good

How do you punt TWICE from the 1 in the NFCCG??!!

 

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I wanna hear from you guys? I just don't know. Can fans more in the know about him comment please. Thanks.
Much better than Garrett. The man is a proven head coach. I liked that has improved himself in his year off. The trend nowadays is to go after a college guy but I guess Jerry has no interest. I mean he has beaten us in two divisional championship championship playoff games games.
 

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Casa-de-Jerry > Hotel I guess
Also removes a few dozen people who can post in tweets when he comes and goes from hotel Zuzu or whatever.
Going to guess Jerry has a guest house on Prem with full staff much better than any hotel.
 

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Please find me a Packers roster when mccarthy was there thats as talented as ours. Maybe the year they won the SB? 9 of 13 playoff appearances with and elite quarterback, and not much elite talent elsewhere. I'll take it.
 

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Look at this gutless decision making in the 2014 NFCG (played at home):


1 9:47 1 7 SEA 7 Eddie Lacy up the middle for 6 yards (tackle by Demarcus Dobbs) 0 0 5.600 5.910
1 9:11 2 1 SEA 1 John Kuhn up the middle for no gain (tackle by Kevin Williams and Bobby Wagner) 0 0
Replay Assistant challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the original play was overturned. 1 8:56 3 1 SEA 1 Eddie Lacy left guard for no gain (tackle by Malcolm Smith and Bruce Irvin) 0 0 5.170 1 8:10 4 1 SEA 1 Mason Crosby 19 yard field goal good

1 7 SEA 7 Eddie Lacy up the middle for 1 yard (tackle by Tony McDaniel and Bobby Wagner) 3 0 5.600
1 5:53 2 6 SEA 6 Aaron Rodgers pass incomplete short left intended for Jordy Nelson 3 0 4.950 4.040
1 5:48 3 6 SEA 6 Aaron Rodgers pass complete short right to Randall Cobb for 5 yards (tackle by Earl 1 5:10 4 1 SEA 1 Mason Crosby 19 yard field goal good

How do you punt TWICE from the 1 in the NFCCG??!!

Certainly his worst game as a HC.

Despite that, it still took a fluke onside kick recovery to prevent him from advancing to the Superbowl.
 

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I had no ideal candidate going into this, so I'm not at either extreme of upset or enthusiastic.

I'm good with it.

Main "pro"... we have a guy who might hold his ground, or at least, has a Super Bowl on his resume' that gives him the latitude to demand things of Jerry that most college or hot-assistant options wouldn't.

Main "con"... like him or not, there's hardly any question that among the leaders of this team, they were inspired by Red not just as a coach but as a man... McC doesn't impress as someone who is particularly inspiring... cerebral, but not inspiring.
 

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I wanna hear from you guys? I just don't know. Can fans more in the know about him comment please. Thanks.

I firmly believe that we just hired a very similar head coach to the one we just had. He runs offensive philosophies that were very popular decades ago and lacks some of the basic in-game knowledge that more "modern" head coaches seem to know. But, with that said, he claims to have re-educated himself on analytics and modern offenses. So, with Kellen Moore on the staff and a newfound education he might have some success. Also, getting fired might have "straightened him out some"... from reports I've read he was very undisciplined in GB. Massages and the like. Hopefully getting fired settled that. Green Bay didn't help him much in the personnel department, he shouldn't have that problem here. My memory of him was slow starts and losing streaks that got his seat hot and then they'd pull out of it. (remind you of anyone?) He is known for his commanding presence and on-brand messaging. I'm not sure how he will handle the media here... it's much different than in GB.

I don't love or even like the hire. I feel like we will have success early but end up right where we have been. Underachieving in the grand scheme.

I would have liked to see us go for more of a "home run" type hire. Urban, Roman, Etc... swing for the fences and try to hit a home run.
 

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Didn't want him in the first place, Aaron Rodgers not coming with him. If Jerry names the staff I really hate it. Nothing changes.

We've already done the Jerry naming the staff thing. It didn't work then. McCarthy should have full autonomy to hire his staff. Sheez, Jerry, not this again.
 

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I'm ecstatic that Jerry did the right thing and provided a change in the head coaching department that was long overdue. Having said that, what are things going to look like once Mike McCarthy steps on board?

Let's be honest with ourselves as fans for a second and acknowledge that there is not one singular coaching candidate that we would all be on board with. Sure some would of loved BB or Peyton, but there is always going to be differing opinions on what is best for this group of players.

I think instead of us over analyzing the situation we need to break things down like this. First and foremost we needed a new direction, and secondly we needed a coach with experience as a proven commodity. While McMcarty may have some warts, there is no doubt the guy was been a high percentage winning coach, who I remembered fearing because he always seemed to keep his cool and have his team ready to play. Sure we can debate whether or not it was all Aaron Rogers, but you can also point to McCarthy being around and coaching guys like Farve, Montana as evidence to understanding what greatness looks like.

On the surface this looks like a pretty good choice for where we sit right now in this point in time. We desperately need a new offense that can take advantage of what Dak can do and I believe McCarthy is a good coach to move the needle in the right direction. Game management just improved ten fold, and we now have someone whom actually game plans and will use analytics to try and gain advantages.

The last thing I want to say on this topic is that we also need to remember this isn't one of Jerry's adopted sons so there is no doubt results will need to come fast or he won't be here very long. I think at this point it's important that as fans that we all take a deep breath and be happy that we're moving on from an unproven experiment to a guy whom really is qualified to lead a team. I don't think it's a great idea to over analyze because we don't know how much McCarthy has grown as a coach since being let go, and if he has figured out way to improve upon his past work it may be just enough to get things going and get us over the hump.
 
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