Why would McCarthy choose Dallas?

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aria said:
I said I think Rodgers and Favre carried him, if you call that complaining about his history than so be it.

Not hard to outperform our defense? Yet you said “Dallas was the obvious better team in both games”. So which is it, contradict yourself much?

It’s not silly at all to complain about a coach almost giving up that big of a lead in a playoff game. Had that been Garrett all hell would break loose. If you’re ok with a coach who starts playing conservatively in playoff games, and almost loses, because his team has a 2+ TD lead than McCarthy sounds perfect for you!

I disagree that it took 3 quarters for Garrett to get aggressive, I think McCarthy played the entire second half conservatively which is what allowed us back in the game.

I don’t know why you continue to bring up Rodgers hobbling around, of course I remember that. Rodgers on one leg was almost as good as Dak on two, plain and simple.

“Other than Rodgers they didn’t have much”? So I guess GB was 7th overall in passing and the Cowboys were 23rd because AR was passing and catching the ball to himself? GB was also 6th in receiving and the Cowboys were 23rd. Not to mention you already said the Cowboys were the better team and then back tracked on that when I pointed out the difference in the defensive stats.

It sure doesn’t seem like Dallas was clearly the better team, they were in the top 3 rushing and barely above GB in total offense. In almost every other category on both sides of the ball they were inferior to GB. And please don’t even try to say the Cowboys had a superior roster. Nelson was 5th in the league in receiving, we didn’t even have a receiver in the top 20. Rodgers was 4th in passing, Dak was 23rd. Dallas had a great O line and the Ewok, that’s about it.
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So if you have a better defense, that means you have a better team? LOL

So Buffalo is a better team than KC?

Another dumb comment.
 
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aria said:
Because he’s an idiot? Over rated roster and a meddling owner. Jerry probably got him to commit after drinking a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue during their little sleep over.
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Or maybe (without an agenda) because the Cowboys are iconic. The Cowboys are an ideal place to coach. The team is fairly stacked. Because if you win, (sing it with me) you’ll go down in history!
 
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aria said:
I said I think Rodgers and Favre carried him, if you call that complaining about his history than so be it.

Not hard to outperform our defense? Yet you said “Dallas was the obvious better team in both games”. So which is it, contradict yourself much?

It’s not silly at all to complain about a coach almost giving up that big of a lead in a playoff game. Had that been Garrett all hell would break loose. If you’re ok with a coach who starts playing conservatively in playoff games, and almost loses, because his team has a 2+ TD lead than McCarthy sounds perfect for you!

I disagree that it took 3 quarters for Garrett to get aggressive, I think McCarthy played the entire second half conservatively which is what allowed us back in the game.

I don’t know why you continue to bring up Rodgers hobbling around, of course I remember that. Rodgers on one leg was almost as good as Dak on two, plain and simple.

“Other than Rodgers they didn’t have much”? So I guess GB was 7th overall in passing and the Cowboys were 23rd because AR was passing and catching the ball to himself? GB was also 6th in receiving and the Cowboys were 23rd. Not to mention you already said the Cowboys were the better team and then back tracked on that when I pointed out the difference in the defensive stats.

It sure doesn’t seem like Dallas was clearly the better team, they were in the top 3 rushing and barely above GB in total offense. In almost every other category on both sides of the ball they were inferior to GB. And please don’t even try to say the Cowboys had a superior roster. Nelson was 5th in the league in receiving, we didn’t even have a receiver in the top 20. Rodgers was 4th in passing, Dak was 23rd. Dallas had a great O line and the Ewok, that’s about it.
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Lets just put all these dumb comments of yours to rest and look at the total facts and not your selective cherry picking:

Cowboys record: 13-3
Packers record: 10-6

Cowboys offensive rankings: 5th in Points, 5th in yards
Packers Offensive rankings: 4th in Points, 8th in yards

Cowboys defensive Rankings: 5th in points, 14th in yards
Packers defensive Rankings: 21 in Points, 22 in yards

Then lets throw in that the playoff game was IN Dallas and Rogers was limping around the whole game yet the packers still won and McCarthy clearly out coached the hapless Garrett.

And finally, your claim that the packers defense was better has just been blown out of the water. The Cowboys had the better team, the better record, better overall stats, home field advantage, better defense. Offenses were relatively even, however if you combine the stats, the cowboys actually come out better. But when you add in the fact that Rogers got hurt late in the year and was limping, it shifts to advantage Cowboys.

Yet the one big advantage they did have was that the Packers had McCarthy and we had the horrid Garrett. And more or less Rogers is still awesome and you take him over Dak and our passing game.

Even when you try to change the subject and deflect your silly comments, you still get smoke.:muttley:
 
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owner willing to do anything to win.
good young coachable QB.
Zeke and this OLine.
good group of WRs.
good group of TEs.
good,young defense.

despite this crap season...there is some good round here.
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I would question the "good group of TEs".......other than Jarwin (development held back by Witten) who is a good #2....we got nothing.
 
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There have been all kinds of debates about the Joneses making Mike McCarthy the newest coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Some love the move, some hate it. Some think it was too quick. Some wanted the latest hot name or a college standout instead.

However, last night I started thinking about why McCarthy would want to come to Dallas. After all, there's no doubt that any potential coach had heard plenty about Jerry's meddling ways. The organizational failure of Jones has been discussed pretty much ad nauseam. Choosing Dallas means having to put up with Jerry's hands-all-over approach of owning a team.

McCarthy clearly had other teams interested in interviewing, yet he picked the Cowboys as much as the Cowboys picked him. It could have just been a money thing. It could even be the high-profile nature of the job. However, I think there also could have been a few other reasons.

1) McCarthy, like most of us, could easily see that this team underachieved under Garrett. He's not in a rebuilding situation, but one where he only should need to add a few parts to possibly achieve immediate success.

2) This could probably be added to one because it's saying the same thing: Coaches know they can't win without talent and key pieces are in place here. He doesn't have to find a quarterback. He doesn't have to find a stud running back. He's got four very solid pieces to the offensive line if they can stay healthy. If we bring back Cooper, he's got a very good receiving corps. On offense, the only real questions are starting tight end and left guard (and we got decent play there from both Williams and Su'a-Filo, plus we haven't even seen Connor McGovern yet).

Defense is a little more sketchy. We've got one very good defensive end, two very good linebackers and a few decent secondary players. However, McCarthy is an offensive coach so I'm sure the offense was the draft.

3) Despite all the negatives about Jones, coaches know that he will get them what they ask for. I know the team has changed some on that, going cheaper in free agency, but I feel some of that was influenced by Garrett and his process, and the right coach will be able to produce a shopping list and get Jerry to fill it. If McCarthy tells Jerry that he needs a certain player, I just can't see Jones being able to resist getting him.
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I think your #1 answer sums it up quite well. And I think that's also why he's having no trouble fielding a staff of high quality assistants. They saw the same things he did.

I have mentioned before about how a quality coach who is confident in his abilities would look at this team and jump at the chance to coach it. Because they know that player talent isn't the issue. So if you feel that you're a good coach, half the work is already done. Add the high profile on top of it and that's icing on the cake.

As for Jerry? I don't think it's a big issue with McCarthy. He was the sole voice of the Packers and had to answer for everything, even when it wasn't something he was responsible for, because Ted Thompson the GM never talked. He might be relieved to let the owner flap his gums and handle much of the media nonsense while he focuses on football.
 
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Bigtex67 said:
I would question the "good group of TEs".......other than Jarwin (development held back by Witten) who is a good #2....we got nothing.
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under a competent coach like Big Mc...im not gonna discount Schultz just yet.
 
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You clearly complained about McCarthys and his time with GB. Which was way off base. And whether the Dallas was better or the teams were closely matched, Garrett got out coached and McCarthy beat Dallas both times when it counted most. Including the game where Rogers was limping on one leg and they still beat us.
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Nice, keep walking back on your comments. Just like to throw crap out there and see what sticks, huh?
 
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CowboyRoy said:
So if you have a better defense, that means you have a better team? LOL

So Buffalo is a better team than KC?

Another dumb comment.
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Oh...so a better offense must mean you have a better team. You made an idiotic comment without doing research and now you’re crawfishing. I already posted several stats for you other than defense and Dallas was far below GB in all but one or two, which also included offensive stats. I know that must have all been a little confusing for you, perhaps I’ll just post the links next time instead of wasting my time actually posting the numerical rankings for you.
 
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CowboyRoy said:
Lets just put all these dumb comments of yours to rest and look at the total facts and not your selective cherry picking:

Cowboys record: 13-3
Packers record: 10-6

Cowboys offensive rankings: 5th in Points, 5th in yards
Packers Offensive rankings: 4th in Points, 8th in yards

Cowboys defensive Rankings: 5th in points, 14th in yards
Packers defensive Rankings: 21 in Points, 22 in yards

Then lets throw in that the playoff game was IN Dallas and Rogers was limping around the whole game yet the packers still won and McCarthy clearly out coached the hapless Garrett.

And finally, your claim that the packers defense was better has just been blown out of the water. The Cowboys had the better team, the better record, better overall stats, home field advantage, better defense. Offenses were relatively even, however if you combine the stats, the cowboys actually come out better. But when you add in the fact that Rogers got hurt late in the year and was limping, it shifts to advantage Cowboys.

Yet the one big advantage they did have was that the Packers had McCarthy and we had the horrid Garrett. And more or less Rogers is still awesome and you take him over Dak and our passing game.

Even when you try to change the subject and deflect your silly comments, you still get smoke.:muttley:
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Talk about cherry picking stats, lol. I already gave you about 7-8 different stats and you come back with 4? 2 of which were ones I already posted? Hahaha...do you even read others posts or are you so busy spewing your verbal diarrhea that you don’t even bother to read what other people say?

You think overall record is indicative of who the better team always is talent wise? That’s laughable!

I’ll give you this, I was wrong about the defensive stats because the way they’re listed on NFL.com is actually backwards unless you filter it out.

Regardless, I posted plenty of other stats which is the opposite of cherry picking. Cherry picking is posting a few stats which doesn’t give a good example of the overall picture, which is what you did above.

We’ll find out soon enough what he is without two of the best QB’s to ever play the game.
 
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NotForLong said:
A true pessimist, He may have been the top candidate available with NFL coaching experience. Teams were lining up. Browns, Giants Cowboys. This label of desperate is a fallacy.

"So its about his ego" because he accepted the best opportunity of the many offers being thrown at him. Wow. If his Ego was so Big, why not take the worse situation and prove your greatness by making that team successful.

If truth be told Cleveland and its offense may have been a better fit and winning a Super Bowl in Cleveland would make him just as much a legend
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At the end of the day we all want this team to win we are tired of JJ and his shenanigan .It is ok if some of us have a different point of view but i believe all of us aiming to see this team win SB.
I might not like player A or coach D but i will stand behind them because I care for the team.Now if they fail the mission i have the right to burst my emotion against the result.
 
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