10 picks in the draft

[TheSport78]

i have a very good feeling that we will go WR in the 1st round...chances are Owens and/or Glenn won't be with the team in 08'. Based on who I think will be available at #22, here's my top 5

1. Dwayne Bowe
2. Ted Ginn Jr.
3. Dwayne Jarrett
4. Robert Meachem
5. Anthony Gonzalez with Sidney Rice not that far behind

GIVE ME BOWE

 

[theebs]

do we draft 10 rookies?
do we trade down, and add 1 or 2 more picks?
do we trade up and have less picks?


I really Want Ginn in this draft, he is a gamebreaker. If he falls to 10-13 we should trade our 22 and 2 or 3 later round picks to move up.

JMHO

Well I think having that 2nd and 3rd rounder is much better than giving away picks and ending up with the next desmond howard.

Hopefully the days of over-moving in the draft are over. stay put and trust your scouts unless someone overwhelms you with a trade.

 

[visionary]

the needs i still see on the team

1. CB (AG our #3 is old, really old, henry is slow)
2. Pass rusher (OLB)
3. NT (need to spell fergy and have a plan in case he is out for a couple of games, we got lucky last year, not every year)
4. OG/C (real need)
5. WR (i know people are enamored with the WR in this draft but the bottom line is no one we draft will start over TO or TG, crayton is the best #3 period and we already have developmental prospects like hurd and austin who have the potential to be really good- if we draft WR it will be on day 2 and someone like Yamon Figures who is also a return man)

I think we address these in the first 4 rounds of the draft (the second 4th comes from trading down in first or trading up with our later picks)

 

[Clove]

Here is a Ted Ginn highlight reel for ya...I know you wanted pure receiver stuff...but it has a little bit of everything for ya....Im not necessarily selling you on him, just giving you what you asked for....I wouldnt mind taking him but it depends who else is available...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TApPxbmGzP4

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I like Meachem. Bowe will be gone, so he'll be a nice 2nd prize. Gonzalez? Seriously, dude, get your head checked.

:laugh2: are you kidding me? Meachem will be taken before Bowe

 

[big dog cowboy]

Dallas won't keep all ten picks. There isn't room on the roster for ten more players. I'd be willing to bet that some of the 6s and 7s are package to move up in the middle rounds to target a specific player or two.

Sounds good to me. I'm against trading up from 22.

 

[dbair1967]

do we draft 10 rookies?
do we trade down, and add 1 or 2 more picks?
do we trade up and have less picks?


I really Want Ginn in this draft, he is a gamebreaker. If he falls to 10-13 we should trade our 22 and 2 or 3 later round picks to move up.

JMHO

there is no way in hell I'd trade up for Ginn...he's easily 2-3yrs away from being an impact player at WR

honestly I wouldnt even spend a 1st rd pick on him...late 1st, early 2nd perhaps...but I have a feeling he isnt ever going to amount to much as a WR in the NFL

David

 

[SDogo]

i'd take robert meacham, dwayne garret, ted ginn, and anthony gonzo over him anyday

Who's Dwayne Garret?

Dwayne Jarrett from USC maybe? The same guy whose likely to bomb is his pro day with a 4.6 or 4.7 40 and watch his team mate Steve Smith take the spot light? No thanks!

I can think of a dozen WR's I would take before Jarrett.

I hate comparison but this is Mike Williams V2 except Williams was twice as athletic and twice the WR.

 

[mwj473]

the needs i still see on the team

1. CB (AG our #3 is old, really old, henry is slow)
2. Pass rusher (OLB)
3. NT (need to spell fergy and have a plan in case he is out for a couple of games, we got lucky last year, not every year)
4. OG/C (real need)
5. WR (i know people are enamored with the WR in this draft but the bottom line is no one we draft will start over TO or TG, crayton is the best #3 period and we already have developmental prospects like hurd and austin who have the potential to be really good- if we draft WR it will be on day 2 and someone like Yamon Figures who is also a return man)

I think we address these in the first 4 rounds of the draft (the second 4th comes from trading down in first or trading up with our later picks)

I think FS could fall in there somewhere also, unless we do draft CB and Henry is willing to move to FS. If Nelson were to somehow fall to us, I could see us taking him. I truly think we will go with BPA, regardless of position.

 

[lspain1]

im going to say it now. dallas takes a wr or a cb. whichever has the BPA at that point. most likely wr.

Based on our FA moves, this looks right to me. We'll see in 49 days or so (but who's counting?).

 

[Chuck 54]

I know this, Gin is as good as Reggie Bush as a receiver.

Ridiculous blasphemy....no way...Bush would have been the top 1-2 pick guy even as a WR....I've never seen a highlight of any of Gin's catches, just him running fast.

 

[Chuck 54]

I think we'll go CB or DT in round 1, WR in round 2, OLB in round 3.

We won't spend a first round pick on a guy who doesn't either start or contribute in a rotation this year. To me that means a CB, DT in round 1. No way an OL, DE, or even a LB can break into our starting lineup, imo. A WR may sit all year behind our top 3, but even if a guy can beat out Crayton for time, we can get the same type of guys in round 2 that are going in round 1, except for the top guy.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

For the first time in years, I'm for trading up. And because we have so few major needs, we're much closer to drafting for position than BPA. In reality, it's a continuum although you hear a lot of "BPA always" talk. Very few teams are ever in pure BPA mode in the first round.

WR, FS, CB in the first round. Those are the only realistic possibilities at this stage.

So here's an out-of-the-box idea -- if Calvin is there at 5, let's go get him. We'd have to give up our 1st rounder and about 800 draft points to get him, which we don't have in this draft. So we'd have to give some of our extra picks in this draft and something significant from next year, probably our 1st. We'd be giving up a lot of course but we'd be getting the best player in the draft at the 5th position.

Is this possibility intriguing to anyone but me? Is it even a possibility -- could we get him at 5th or would we have to go higher? I know he's gone by 6.

On edit: Okay, my bad. He ain't making it past 4. So we'd have to get that much higher, which is significantly more expensive in draft picks and salary. It's still an intriguing possibility to me.

 

[burmafrd]

I think CB first if there is a top one available; Ginn makes sense in that we do not have a real top kick returner- punt or Kickoff; lets face it, TT can get us to the 27 or so just about every time and that is good- but he does not have the wiggle to ever break one all the way. PR- we do NOT want Newman doing that. No one else really is much of a threat. And we have a year or so to groom him as a WR. Outside of that unless someone good falls I am more for trading down for more picks NEXT year.

 

[burmafrd]

The BUcs are going to take Johnson at 4; that is just about a given. And if any of the three teams before them had a brain they would take him as well. Though realistically Oakland does not need him with Porter and MOss. To get from 22 to 4, its going to take TOO Much. Now trading up to maybe the low teens is a possibility if someone is there who could really help out THIS year.

 

[jay cee]

yea we have 10 picks but 5 are in the last 2 rounds.. its not like we have 4 2nd rounders.. most of the time 6th and 7th rounders dont make the team, even though weve gotten very lucky as of late

That's not a bad thing if they want to package some of those later picks to pick up an extra 3rd or 4th rounder.

 

[dbair1967]

i'd take robert meacham, dwayne garret, ted ginn, and anthony gonzo over him anyday

you'd probably be the only one

David

 

[fanfromvirginia]

The BUcs are going to take Johnson at 4; that is just about a given. And if any of the three teams before them had a brain they would take him as well. Though realistically Oakland does not need him with Porter and MOss. To get from 22 to 4, its going to take TOO Much. Now trading up to maybe the low teens is a possibility if someone is there who could really help out THIS year.

I agree the cost would be hefty. You would almost never consider paying that much of a price. But then again Calvin may be a franchise receiver and there's no way TO and Terry Glenn are both going to be around a year from now producing at the same level they did last year.

I don't expect many on here to buy into this. I'm not at all I'm sure I buy into it as a good idea. I do think it's worth a look, though.

 

[big dog cowboy]

there's no way TO and Terry Glenn are both going to be around a year from now producing at the same level they did last year.

I didn't see any signs of either slowing down last season. Did I miss something?

 

[Beast_from_East]

For the first time in years, I'm for trading up. And because we have so few major needs, we're much closer to drafting for position than BPA. In reality, it's a continuum although you hear a lot of "BPA always" talk. Very few teams are ever in pure BPA mode in the first round.

WR, FS, CB in the first round. Those are the only realistic possibilities at this stage.

So here's an out-of-the-box idea -- if Calvin is there at 5, let's go get him. We'd have to give up our 1st rounder and about 800 draft points to get him, which we don't have in this draft. So we'd have to give some of our extra picks in this draft and something significant from next year, probably our 1st. We'd be giving up a lot of course but we'd be getting the best player in the draft at the 5th position.

Is this possibility intriguing to anyone but me? Is it even a possibility -- could we get him at 5th or would we have to go higher? I know he's gone by 6.

On edit: Okay, my bad. He ain't making it past 4. So we'd have to get that much higher, which is significantly more expensive in draft picks and salary. It's still an intriguing possibility to me.

We would have to go up to probably 2 or 3 for him. We basically would have to "do a Ditka" and trade our whole draft for 1 player.

To pricey if you ask me, stay at #22 and see what falls. We have 10 picks and we can add alot of depth and maybe 2 or 3 future starters.