10 Reasons why we should Draft Joe Staley

[TNCowboy]

Gratz. Yeah, I prefer intelligent debate to name-calling as well. Probably why I got banned from http://www.dallascowboyscentral.com.

:laugh1:

22 is too early for him, IMO. He looks too much like a project to me, though unlike many, I'm not opposed to OL in the first round.

I do think it's a necessity to get a young WR and NT at some point. I just hope they take the best available player at 22. Based on the talent and how it could shake out, my guess is it'll be CB or WR.

Everybody eventually gets banned from DCC. It's inevitable.

 

[jay cee]

Gratz. Yeah, I prefer intelligent debate to name-calling as well. Probably why I got banned from http://www.dallascowboyscentral.com.

:laugh1:

:laugh2: LOL man, I clicked on that site and the first name I saw was Boozeman.:laugh1:

That was all I needed to see.

 

[acruther]

Everybody eventually gets banned from DCC. It's inevitable.

:laugh2:

Yeah, it was definitely not the board for me.

 

[acruther]

:laugh2: LOL man, I clicked on that site and the first name I saw was Boozeman.:laugh1:

That was all I needed to see.

Hmmm...I actually thought he was one of their better posters. He even changed my mind on a couple things. Simpleton is also pretty sharp.

 

[starfrombirth]

The original thread is well thought out, but I agree with Sandy. #22 in the first round is just a reach for this guy. Nothing against his ability-his upside is off the charts-but I seriously doubt he'd be our highest rated player on the board at that time guys-that's what it comes down to. Ginn, Bowe, Meachem, Revis, Ross are all rated higher. As are Moss, Spencer, etc... I do believe. So that's how it will go down. HOWEVER, I really like the thought process of getting this kid because I strongly feel he could be a solid LT in this league for 8 years or so if he avoids injury...............man what a dilemma. Any way we could dump alot of the driftwood picks in the 5th, 6th and 7th rounds to get him in the 2nd round? A draft of Ginn and staley would thrill me. (no I'm not smoking crack)

Yes you are if you think Ginn Jr. is the answer at WR.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I loved your first post, and your response even more. Great work.

I don't follow college football that closely so I for one appreciate when you guys put the effort into writing a well thought out opinion on why you think a particular player would be the right one to draft.

And I think it's dumb when others try to flame the post just because, they don't want to draft that particular player.

Come'on you guys take this stuff way too seriously.

This is a forum-- it's entertainment. You post something and you can get virtually anything back-- to me that's part of the fun.

Acruther posted good info on Staley. I'm not sold on the guy and I wouldn't take him at #22 given our other needs but it was a good post none-the-less.

But remember this is all about entertainment.

 

[acruther]

Come'on you guys take this stuff way too seriously.

This is a forum-- it's entertainment. You post something and you can get virtually anything back-- to me that's part of the fun.

Acruther posted good info on Staley. I'm not sold on the guy and I wouldn't take him at #22 given our other needs but it was a good post none-the-less.

But remember this is all about entertainment.

But you hurt my feelings and now I'm going to run home crying to my mommy.

Actually, I was trying to goad you into a debate, but you weren't going for it. In this medium, it's hard to tell when people are legitimately PO'd. Trust me, some people take this stuff VERY seriously. I can't tell you the number of things people called me when I suggested Parcells should go after the fiasco in Seattle. Actually, that's what got me banned from DCC. heh heh

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I became bored reading all that.

I believe we have a much greater need at CB and WR due to age.

I also believe a higher rated CB and/or WR will be available at pick #22, and if so I go with one of them.

Flozell isn't getting any younger

 

[Bob Sacamano]

What is wrong with you sac? Seriously, are you Pat McQuistan? We have seen NOTHING from him to suggest he may be a "Bookend" Seriously what are you talking about, i have seen you post this stuff about McQ before. I have heard that some coached were happy that they thought he was exceeding their 7TH ROUND expectations, but a mainstay and a future "Bookend"...but again, WHAT IN the #$@* ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???

crawl back in your hole kid

 

[Bizwah]

I agree with some of the others.

22 is too high for this guy.

Just my opinion.

 

[marchetta]

Joe Staley OT Central Michigan​

STRENGTHS
Joe is a very well-built and athletic offensive tackle. He is a complete OT whose blocking techniques in both the running and passing game are excellent. Joe biggest asset is his balance. He very rarely over-extends or lunges to make his blocks and in keeping his balance while making his blocks, he is able to recover very quickly when he gets fooled. He might be the most complete O-lineman in this draft to go along with being the most athletic OT in this draft. Joe shows leadership qualities and excellent mental toughness. Joe will be able to help the team that drafts him right away.

NEEDS TO IMPROVE
Although Joe has excellent athletic abilities, his lateral agility is on the slow side for the level of competition he plays in currently. This issue might make a team shift Joe to the right side where a tight end could help him on passing plays. In his defense, I do not believe that Joe has played the LT position for that many seasons and I think with some technique work, this could be a moot point.

TALENT BOARD ROUND: 1
Jason Peters (LT Buffalo Bills) was drafted as a Tight End, but has worked himself into a future Pro Bowl LT because of his excellent athletic talent and hard work. Joe Staley is going to be drafted as a LT who was a former Tight End; he, too, has the athletic talent and work ethic to turn himself into a Pro Bowl LT for the team that drafts him. I know that most everyone is going to downgrade Joe because of his level of competition, but I will not because of his athletic talent and work ethic. Even if you have to move Joe over to the right side, you have still drafted yourself one hell of an offensive lineman. In fact, even if you have to move him into the LG position, you’ve still drafted yourself a hell of an offensive lineman. The truth is, I think he will be a superior lineman no matter where he lines up and that’s what the draft is all about -- drafting good players that can help your team at any position right away. Joe is that type of player. I believe that once Joe works out at the combine, you will see him move up really fast. I would not be surprised at all to see one of the teams that make it to the Super Bowl pick this kid at the end of the 1st round. If they don’t, then someone is going to get a great “steal” in the second. You remember when I told you about Logan (Instant) Mankins? (See profile in archives.) Now, I’m telling you about Mighty Joe Staley -– another 1st round offensive lineman talent from a division that everyone loves to overlook because of its level of competition. When will they learn?

- Drew Boylhart (thehuddlereport.com)

 

[jobberone]

Staley's Pro Day workout

1.64 10-yard dash
4.4 short-shuttle
7.09 3-cone drill
2.73 20-yard dash
32" vertical
9'4" long-jump

but I agree that there's more to it than just numbers, but Staley was real good at CMU

Staley had alot of good times, give me a sec to post them

The 40 time demonstrates his athleticism (which is isn't really in question) and that he will be able to block in space. Thus, you can pull him to the other side of the formation on running plays to get an additional blocker at the point of attacks. Further, he would be invalable in running screens to his side because he can get out there quickly and engage blockers to free the RB (or TE or WR).

I was trying to joke around. There's nothing wrong with a fast guy on the OL. The 10 yds gives you burst and the cones yada do show athleticism and quickness which I suppose correlate some to footwork. I don't know anything about the guy. He sounds like he has the tools to play the OL. But I'd rather know he had the tools, and also was nasty, blocked well in pass coverage, bullied people in run blocking, used his hands well, had a good punch, and had good technique.

But he may be all that. I just don't think we will use at least the first two picks and likely first day for the OL.

His numbers look good for a 3-4 DE. It was I guess a poor joke.

 

[jay cee]

Hmmm...I actually thought he was one of their better posters. He even changed my mind on a couple things. Simpleton is also pretty sharp.

Yeah, I liked him too when I found the forum that preceded this one. But he completely lost it and started almost stalking me on every post I made. It was totally stupid.

 

[burmafrd]

As regards McQ: His TWIN brother was drafted in the third rd by the Raiders and started as a rookie and seemed to do a decent job. Now that of course is the RAIDERS so one must take that into account. HOWEVER- the draft guides DID have him pretty much rated as a 3rd rd guy so clearly the potential was there. Our McQ only played two years of football- less then half as long as his brother- so it is no suprise he lasted as long as he did.
At camp it seemed from virtually the first day that good reports came out about him. As one of the obsessed fans I read everything I could about camp and there was a lot about him. Especially with the worry about the Hotel and his rehab. Then the Hotel tweaked his leg and sat out the last two exhibition games- and McQ pretty much played all of them. He did so well that BP heard from his friends around the league that if he tried to stash him on the practice squad the guy would not ever clear waivers. Sparano and the other coaches flat out said he had a lot of potential and looked very good. So there was a LOT of info out there about McQ- some people either have very short memories or were nowhere near as alert as they think they were. Now can McQ replace the Hotel and play as well? Who knows? but the potential is there and the early signs are good.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

As regards McQ: His TWIN brother was drafted in the third rd by the Raiders and started as a rookie and seemed to do a decent job. Now that of course is the RAIDERS so one must take that into account. HOWEVER- the draft guides DID have him pretty much rated as a 3rd rd guy so clearly the potential was there. Our McQ only played two years of football- less then half as long as his brother- so it is no suprise he lasted as long as he did.
At camp it seemed from virtually the first day that good reports came out about him. As one of the obsessed fans I read everything I could about camp and there was a lot about him. Especially with the worry about the Hotel and his rehab. Then the Hotel tweaked his leg and sat out the last two exhibition games- and McQ pretty much played all of them. He did so well that BP heard from his friends around the league that if he tried to stash him on the practice squad the guy would not ever clear waivers. Sparano and the other coaches flat out said he had a lot of potential and looked very good. So there was a LOT of info out there about McQ- some people either have very short memories or were nowhere near as alert as they think they were. Now can McQ replace the Hotel and play as well? Who knows? but the potential is there and the early signs are good.

You're wasting time telling "Bob" that.

He's one of several folks on this board that believes that there is no way in hell that any backup player on this team can become an acceptable full-time starter.

But the fact is you can't have 1st or 2nd round draft picks backing up every position-- it doesn't work that way.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You're wasting time telling "Bob" that.

He's one of several folks on this board that believes that there is no way in hell that any backup player on this team can become an acceptable full-time starter.

But the fact is you can't have 1st or 2nd round draft picks backing up every position-- it doesn't work that way.

what the hell are you talking about?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

what the hell are you talking about?

You want to draft another 15 offensive tackles because you think McQ has no chance to succeed.

 

[superpunk]

what the hell are you talking about?

Winky just doesn't understand that this is all just entertainment - from the top down.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Flozell isn't getting any younger

And hes in the last year of his contract ais is Jones and Glenn. Ferguson is getting deeper into the wrong side of 30 as well. i dont see how people can see that we need a WR yet cannot see that we also need an OT, DT, RB and CB just about as much.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

As regards McQ: His TWIN brother was drafted in the third rd by the Raiders and started as a rookie and seemed to do a decent job. Now that of course is the RAIDERS so one must take that into account. HOWEVER- the draft guides DID have him pretty much rated as a 3rd rd guy so clearly the potential was there. Our McQ only played two years of football- less then half as long as his brother- so it is no suprise he lasted as long as he did.
At camp it seemed from virtually the first day that good reports came out about him. As one of the obsessed fans I read everything I could about camp and there was a lot about him. Especially with the worry about the Hotel and his rehab. Then the Hotel tweaked his leg and sat out the last two exhibition games- and McQ pretty much played all of them. He did so well that BP heard from his friends around the league that if he tried to stash him on the practice squad the guy would not ever clear waivers. Sparano and the other coaches flat out said he had a lot of potential and looked very good. So there was a LOT of info out there about McQ- some people either have very short memories or were nowhere near as alert as they think they were. Now can McQ replace the Hotel and play as well? Who knows? but the potential is there and the early signs are good.

McQuistans TWIN brother was awful at guard for the Raiders last season. Now im not saying that he cannot succeed but lets not get too far into the koolaid because of 3 quarters of preseason football.