150+ dead in Paris attacks

[reddyuta]

It's going to take more than strategic bombing... there are no ball-bearing plants or power-plants to take out.

bombing isnt going to solve anything .they have infinite recruits.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

Gadaffi and saddam were bad people but I agree that they did handle the dirty work when dealing with the isis threats in their respective countries.

If that was the case what was the point of going after them? It seems like it did more bad then good the long run. Of course hindsight is 20/20 but having gadaffi and saddam was perhaps the lesser of 2 evils?

Neither was an ally by any stretch but you don't need to be an ally with someone who is already dealing with a major threat. It almost was like contract work except without the contact

Because the US government has a growth problem. It wants to expand as much and rapidly as possible and war facilitates this.

The reason war is used is because you can emotionally get Americans to approve. For example, most Americans didnt want to get into WW2. If you read the McCollum Points memo, things were outlined of what we should do to provoke Japan to attack us because FDR wanted in the war badly but couldnt without Americans approval. The points in the memo were almost followed to a T, Japan attacks and BAM, instantly all Americans are ok with getting into WW2.

We've tried getting into war without the general publics approval (Korea, Vietnam) and those were disasters.

Everything that we claim we meddle in the middle east for, there are other countries that do the same and we dont do jack crap, because those countries arent easy pushovers. We talk about nukes, weapons of mass destruction, communism and genocide...well, North Korea fits the bill. You wont see us attack them though because a) Americans dont fear them and b) they wouldnt be an easy pushover country. Its really hypocritical of us to do such.

We meddle in the Middle East, the people that live there get pissed and attack us (blow back). Osama Bin Laden himself is on video saying the #1 reason for attacking us is that we were on their land. People are territorial. We would do the same if China was taking out Governors in our states and installing new people. Shoot, an animal will do the same...poke at a rattlesnake. To act like those people shouldnt be pissed at us and want revenge is ridiculous.

Not to mention, all the civilians killed...the majority of their family members join a radical group for revenge.

One person that it is always worth listening to is Michael Scheuer. He was with the CIA for decades and was head of the Bin Laden unit. No one knows the middle east people better.

Here's what he said about the Paris attacks specifically:

“Hollande, like Cameron, like Obama, like Bush, wants to keep a lid on the fact that we're at war with these people and they're responding to what we do and not who we are.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...unmen-have-probably-planned-a-second-act.html

Anyhow, to wrap up, we're meddling in the middle east because it brings about an emotional response from Americans and "Fear" of terrorists which allows the government to grow and a) take away rights and b) spend spend spend and grow and burn through the deficit like no tomorrow.

 

[Sasquatch]

Bombing will appease people who will see the explosions and think something worthwhile is being done despite the past ten years of evidence to the contrary.

Because the US government has a growth problem. It wants to expand as much and rapidly as possible and war facilitates this.

The reason war is used is because you can emotionally get Americans to approve. For example, most Americans didnt want to get into WW2. If you read the McCollum Points memo, things were outlined of what we should do to provoke Japan to attack us because FDR wanted in the war badly but couldnt without Americans approval. The points in the memo were almost followed to a T, Japan attacks and BAM, instantly all Americans are ok with getting into WW2.

We've tried getting into war without the general publics approval (Korea, Vietnam) and those were disasters.

Everything that we claim we meddle in the middle east for, there are other countries that do the same and we dont do jack crap, because those countries arent easy pushovers. We talk about nukes, weapons of mass destruction, communism and genocide...well, North Korea fits the bill. You wont see us attack them though because a) Americans dont fear them and b) they wouldnt be an easy pushover country. Its really hypocritical of us to do such.

We meddle in the Middle East, the people that live there get pissed and attack us (blow back). Osama Bin Laden himself is on video saying the #1 reason for attacking us is that we were on their land. People are territorial. We would do the same if China was taking out Governors in our states and installing new people. Shoot, an animal will do the same...poke at a rattlesnake. To act like those people shouldnt be pissed at us and want revenge is ridiculous.

Not to mention, all the civilians killed...the majority of their family members join a radical group for revenge.

One person that it is always worth listening to is Michael Scheuer. He was with the CIA for decades and was head of the Bin Laden unit. No one knows the middle east people better.

Here's what he said about the Paris attacks specifically:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...unmen-have-probably-planned-a-second-act.html

Anyhow, to wrap up, we're meddling in the middle east because it brings about an emotional response from Americans and "Fear" of terrorists which allows the government to grow and a) take away rights and b) spend spend spend and grow and burn through the deficit like no tomorrow.

Talk about poking a rattlesnake and blowback.

This ought to get interesting.

 

[JohnnyTheFox]

why single him out,every western country is forced to give asylum to these refugees.i read that one the terrorists came through greece as a refugee.Its the European countries which are in real trouble because who knows how many terrorists have slipped through as terrorists.

Forced?
Don't think so although I could be wrong.
The agency that takes these people in{cant recall the name atm} want even more funds than O.
Here is a list where said refugees are being distributed to as far as the USA goes...

http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/190-To-Receive-Syrian-Refugees.pdf

With things being the way they are I believe there should be zero refugees allowed here and borders all should be locked down tighter than you know what. I am sick and tired of this country being a dumping ground for the worlds refuse.

 

[big dog cowboy]

It's going to take more than strategic bombing... there are no ball-bearing plants or power-plants to take out.

They have a lot of these according to the news:

 

[Sasquatch]

I am sick and tired of this country being a dumping ground for the worlds refuse.

I can imagine a native American thinking the same thing back in the 17th century.