17-year-old sexual assault victim could face charges for tweeting names of attackers

[Dodger]

Even though obviously what they did is wrong I do somewhat understand(but do not agree with) the ruling. There would be no anonimity if they were being charged with rape, but they have pled to a lesser offense where anonimity can still apply. The worse part is that they are being offered a plea in the first place. They raped her and posted pics on the internet. Seems like they should pursue the rape charges the whole way through.

However it happened, it's still wrong which is my only point.

 

[wittenacious]

Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews
Contempt motion is withdrawn for teen girl who tweeted name of attackers - @courierjournal http://cjky.it/QtG9WK

Contempt motion withdrawn for assault victim Savannah Dietrich


Read more: http://www.courier-journal.com/arti...on-withdrawn-assault-victim-Savannah-Dietrich

Thanks for posting this update, WG.

Love it! Right wins out... on THIS particular score, at least. Still very sorry she suffered going through the crime of rape committed against her, and for the scars she will have to struggle to bear throughout her life.

I wish her all the best, in her every effort to move forward.

 

[Hostile]

Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews
Contempt motion is withdrawn for teen girl who tweeted name of attackers - @courierjournal http://cjky.it/QtG9WK

Contempt motion withdrawn for assault victim Savannah Dietrich

Defense attorneys for two teen-agers who pleaded guilty to assaulting 17-year-old Savannah Dietrich have withdrawn their motion that she be held in contempt for tweeting the names of her attackers in defiance of a court order.

David Mejia, an attorney for one of the teens, said given that the story has gone global because of a piece Saturday in The Courier-Journal, there was no reason to continue the contempt motion.

“What could contempt do now?” Mejia said in an interview, adding that the boys’ names have already been circulated far beyond the original tweet. “Seems like a rather useless exercise doesn’t it?”

Read more: http://www.courier-journal.com/arti...on-withdrawn-assault-victim-Savannah-Dietrich

Out-freaking-standing!

 

[trickblue]

No one will never know what happened for sure... it sounds like she was definitely violated and in that respect she has some anger... and she should...

The bigger picture is that our courts have TOO much power over our free speech rights...

Public courts seal public records all of the time... that isn't right...

These are perps tried in the PUBLIC court of law and then the public has no details...

Our justice system is lacking in regards to the Constitution...

 

[Risen Star]

She admits she knows she is breaking the law and does not care so I have no problem with her or the charges against her.

I had the same reaction.

 

[MapleLeaf]

So how was her life ruined? She's still alive ... she still appears to have the ability to life a long, full life. There are many people who can't say the same.

I really don't mind her tweeting the info because she knows the penalty and is willing to pay it if needed. I can understand that that feeling. Hopefully, she quickly gets past this quickly. Her life is not "ruined". She needs to stop letting these rapists drive her to more bad decisions.

...you didn't mean this.

 

[NorthTexan95]

...you didn't mean this.

I don't quite understand the uproar to my original post. I think y'all might be misunderstanding my point.

The girl outted the two kids because she feels her life is ruined. Is her life ruined? Of course not. She can still go on to accomplish all her dreams ... school, career, and a family.

My originally post was a reply to RoyTheHammer who posted "Her life was ruined". Hopefully her family and friends provide her with better advice.

When I posted "Hopefully, she quickly gets past this quickly" maybe the real misunderstood statement I made. I never meant she needs to "get over it". I just meant she needs to get past thinking her life his ruined, the sooner the better. Continuing to think that could only lead to a downward cycle.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I don't quite understand the uproar to my original post. I think y'all might be misunderstanding my point.

The girl outted the two kids because she feels her life is ruined. Is her life ruined? Of course not. She can still go on to accomplish all her dreams ... school, career, and a family.

My originally post was a reply to RoyTheHammer who posted "Her life was ruined". Hopefully her family and friends provide her with better advice.

When I posted "Hopefully, she quickly gets past this quickly" maybe the real misunderstood statement I made. I never meant she needs to "get over it". I just meant she needs to get past thinking her life his ruined, the sooner the better. Continuing to think that could only lead to a downward cycle.

I think this clears up your original post on the matter a bit, but i still feel you don't quite understand just how something like BEING RAPED can fully effect a person for the rest of their lives. Im not saying she can't go on to do whatever she'd like.. im saying being raped as a child makes it harder for anyone to lead a normal life and not be messed up in the head.

 

[wittenacious]

I don't quite understand the uproar to my original post. I think y'all might be misunderstanding my point.

The girl outted the two kids because she feels her life is ruined. Is her life ruined? Of course not. She can still go on to accomplish all her dreams ... school, career, and a family.

My originally post was a reply to RoyTheHammer who posted "Her life was ruined". Hopefully her family and friends provide her with better advice.

When I posted "Hopefully, she quickly gets past this quickly" maybe the real misunderstood statement I made. I never meant she needs to "get over it". I just meant she needs to get past thinking her life his ruined, the sooner the better. Continuing to think that could only lead to a downward cycle.

Still not getting it, but trying at least... I think. Your first post came across as totally insensitive, IMO.

All of what you wrote — now in both posts — is monumentally easier said than done, no matter how well intentioned your comments were meant to be.

Her life has been forever negatively affected/altered, at the very least... so also ruined to a very great degree, certainly. The downward cycle you want her to avoid is not something so easily overcome or dealt with. She suffered the physically repulsive act of rape which will cause dark thinking and scarred emotional feelings, and are the combined fight she has to face for a very, very long time to come... if not for the remainder of her life.

I'd agree with what RTH said, here... still wishing her the very best possible recovery as she battles to overcome the often debilitating effects of the horrific crime committed against her.

 

[Muhast]

If they can assault her and take pictures of it and pass those around to others, why can't she let others know what scum they are?

I think their names should be out for the world to see, they are sexual predators after all.

 

[Cythim]

So was this actually a rape trial or are we just running with the sensationalized story? I have seen nothing that suggests the assault was a rape and the outcome of the trial leads me to believe the act being committed was less than rape. Sexual assault can be as simple as groping but it seems everyone wants to label it rape without knowing the facts.

I know one fact, NorthTexan95 is right in that it will only ruin her life if she allows it to do so. It isn't up to us to decide that her life has been ruined and it isn't up to her attackers. If we repeatedly say her life is ruined then she will believe it and lead a ruined life. She probably won't read these forums, thus what we say is meaningless, but kids are what you tell them they are and perpetuating the idea that he life is ruined will only help to make it true.

 

[burmafrd]

So was this actually a rape trial or are we just running with the sensationalized story? I have seen nothing that suggests the assault was a rape and the outcome of the trial leads me to believe the act being committed was less than rape. Sexual assault can be as simple as groping but it seems everyone wants to label it rape without knowing the facts.

I know one fact, NorthTexan95 is right in that it will only ruin her life if she allows it to do so. It isn't up to us to decide that her life has been ruined and it isn't up to her attackers. If we repeatedly say her life is ruined then she will believe it and lead a ruined life. She probably won't read these forums, thus what we say is meaningless, but kids are what you tell them they are and perpetuating the idea that he life is ruined will only help to make it true.

She was passed out and they had raped her. How hard is that for you to understand?
They took pictures and put them out on the internet boasting about it.

Yeah its so easy to say get over it and her life is not ruined unless she allows it. Those pictures are out there forever.

Real easy to say isn't it?

 

[vta]

So was this actually a rape trial or are we just running with the sensationalized story? I have seen nothing that suggests the assault was a rape and the outcome of the trial leads me to believe the act being committed was less than rape. Sexual assault can be as simple as groping but it seems everyone wants to label it rape without knowing the facts.

I know one fact, NorthTexan95 is right in that it will only ruin her life if she allows it to do so. It isn't up to us to decide that her life has been ruined and it isn't up to her attackers. If we repeatedly say her life is ruined then she will believe it and lead a ruined life. She probably won't read these forums, thus what we say is meaningless, but kids are what you tell them they are and perpetuating the idea that he life is ruined will only help to make it true.

The definitions vary by state, but 1st degree sexual assault isn't groping.
She identifies them as rapists herself and I'm willing to bet she knows the difference. Her life might not be 'ruined', God willing, but she has every right to want better than seeing them protected because of their age. Their age didn't prohibit them from the act and it shouldn't serve as a shield.

Being named is the least of what they deserve.

 

[BigDinAZ]

So how was her life ruined? She's still alive ... she still appears to have the ability to life a long, full life. There are many people who can't say the same.

I really don't mind her tweeting the info because she knows the penalty and is willing to pay it if needed. I can understand that that feeling. Hopefully, she quickly gets past this quickly. Her life is not "ruined". She needs to stop letting these rapists drive her to more bad decisions.

I don't quite understand the uproar to my original post. I think y'all might be misunderstanding my point.

The girl outted the two kids because she feels her life is ruined. Is her life ruined? Of course not. She can still go on to accomplish all her dreams ... school, career, and a family.

My originally post was a reply to RoyTheHammer who posted "Her life was ruined". Hopefully her family and friends provide her with better advice.

When I posted "Hopefully, she quickly gets past this quickly" maybe the real misunderstood statement I made. I never meant she needs to "get over it". I just meant she needs to get past thinking her life his ruined, the sooner the better. Continuing to think that could only lead to a downward cycle.

You're an idiot.....

 

[Cythim]

She was passed out and they had raped her. How hard is that for you to understand?
They took pictures and put them out on the internet boasting about it.

Yeah its so easy to say get over it and her life is not ruined unless she allows it. Those pictures are out there forever.

Real easy to say isn't it?

Thank you for using no common sense or reading comprehension when responding to me. Where does it say she was raped? I haven't seen anything and all of the official information is sealed. I also never said to get over it, I said she will decide if her life is ruined and telling her that it is won't help her.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

So was this actually a rape trial or are we just running with the sensationalized story? I have seen nothing that suggests the assault was a rape and the outcome of the trial leads me to believe the act being committed was less than rape. Sexual assault can be as simple as groping but it seems everyone wants to label it rape without knowing the facts.

I know one fact, NorthTexan95 is right in that it will only ruin her life if she allows it to do so. It isn't up to us to decide that her life has been ruined and it isn't up to her attackers. If we repeatedly say her life is ruined then she will believe it and lead a ruined life. She probably won't read these forums, thus what we say is meaningless, but kids are what you tell them they are and perpetuating the idea that he life is ruined will only help to make it true.

I give up on this society..

 

[Yeagermeister]

Thank you for using no common sense or reading comprehension when responding to me. Where does it say she was raped? I haven't seen anything and all of the official information is sealed. I also never said to get over it, I said she will decide if her life is ruined and telling her that it is won't help her.

What would you call sexual intercourse without consent? Sounds like rape to me

 

[Cythim]

The definitions vary by state, but 1st degree sexual assault isn't groping.
She identifies them as rapists herself and I'm willing to bet she knows the difference. Her life might not be 'ruined', God willing, but she has every right to want better than seeing them protected because of their age. Their age didn't prohibit them from the act and it shouldn't serve as a shield.

Being named is the least of what they deserve.

Remember the story about the Alabama man putting his genitals on the passed out LSU fan? Something as simple as that is sexual assault. At first everyone laughs and thinks it is funny but the victim doesn't think so and presses charges. Being called a rapist does not make it true, but I feel that we will not know the story for a couple of years and by then no one will care.

I have no problem with her reaction, I believe she has every right to identify her attackers and push for a harder penalty. I have a problem with the general population on the internet sensationalizing to story and turning it into more than it was. I would like to know what happened without the hyperbole and sensationalism that has spread across the internet but all I can find is news and comments from the victim's twitter episode.

I have a hard time believing rape with photo evidence is going to end with a plea deal in a juvenile court. This is why I asked. If it was rape and that is how it ended them something is seriously wrong with the court that heard this case. I am not trying to support the two boys or call out the girl, I just want to know what the facts are so I can make an informed opinion instead of flying off at the handle about things I know nothing about.

 

[Cythim]

What would you call sexual intercourse without consent? Sounds like rape to me

Where does it say intercourse happened? I haven't read that part.

 

[Cythim]

I give up on this society..

That is good, society gave up on you a long time ago