17-year-old sexual assault victim could face charges for tweeting names of attackers

[03EBZ06]

Where does it say she was raped? I haven't seen anything and all of the official information is sealed.

Teenage Rape Victim Tweets Names of Her Attackers

http://www.newser.com/story/150669/teenage-rape-victim-tweets-names-of-her-attackers.html

Savannah Dietrich, Rape Survivor, Faces Jail for Naming Attackers


http://www.nowpublic.com/world/sava...ivor-faces-jail-naming-attackers-2960519.html

Can Twitter Help Rape Victims Find Justice?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto...outs_her_rapists_on_twitter_and_facebook.html

Savannah Dietrich faces jail time for naming boys who raped her (UPDATE)


http://theoriginalgreenwichdiva.com...ail-time-for-naming-boys-who-raped-her/35993/

 

[RoyTheHammer]

That is good, society gave up on you a long time ago

Did they? Or do you, again, have no idea what you're talking about?

Would it make it more acceptable to you if we all said the boys only sexually assulted her without consent?

Think it makes a big difference to her?

Unreal how stupid some of you are..

 

[Cythim]

Teenage Rape Victim Tweets Names of Her Attackers

http://www.newser.com/story/150669/teenage-rape-victim-tweets-names-of-her-attackers.html

Savannah Dietrich, Rape Survivor, Faces Jail for Naming Attackers


http://www.nowpublic.com/world/sava...ivor-faces-jail-naming-attackers-2960519.html

Can Twitter Help Rape Victims Find Justice?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto...outs_her_rapists_on_twitter_and_facebook.html

Savannah Dietrich faces jail time for naming boys who raped her (UPDATE)


http://theoriginalgreenwichdiva.com...ail-time-for-naming-boys-who-raped-her/35993/

Sensationalism at it's worst. Not a single one is a credible source or provides information to support the rape claim.

 

[03EBZ06]

Sensationalism at it's worst. Not a single one is a credible source or provides information to support the rape claim.

But those are more than what you have, which is nothing.

I don't care how those two boys sexually assaulted her, the fact is, they violated her while she passed out.

 

[Cythim]

Did they? Or do you, again, have no idea what you're talking about?

Would it make it more acceptable to you if we all said the boys only sexually assulted her without consent?

Think it makes a big difference to her?

Unreal how stupid some of you are..

How severe the sexual assault was will determine how hard the punishment is. I want to know how bad it was so I can agree or disagree with her that the punishment was enough. If it was rape I would probably agree, I don't think juvenile court and a plea deal is appropriate for a rape charge. I do not know that it was rape and I am asking for anything that I might not have seen that supports the rape charge.

 

[Cythim]

But those are more than what you have, which is nothing.

I don't care how those two boys sexually assaulted her, the fact is, they violated her while she passed out.

I have the fact that not a single piece of evidence points toward a rape charge. I am not saying it wasn't rape, I am asking if it was.

 

[wittenacious]

What would you call sexual intercourse without consent? Sounds like rape to me

Yep... to me, too.

Some of the quotes from the article in the OP, to remind us all this won't be so easy for her to get over...

"I'm not protecting anyone that made my life a living Hell."

"So many of my rights have been taken away by these boys," Dietrich told Louisville's Courier-Journal.

"For months, I cried myself to sleep," Dietrich said. "I couldn't go out in public places."

"[Protecting rapists] is more important than getting justice for the victim in Louisville," she added.

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Suggests both surface-level and deep-seated anger and pain that can't be overcome by just willing it to be okay, IMO. I don't see her life as "throw away ruined." But "forever detrimentally affected/altered ruined" ... I do.

She can only hope to try to make the best of a horrible situation. The fact that the horrible situation happened won't ever go away. Something of extreme importance was forever taken from her, and that is ruination in and of itself.

 

[03EBZ06]

I have the fact that not a single piece of evidence points toward a rape charge. I am not saying it wasn't rape, I am asking if it was.

Terry O'Neill, president of the National Organization for Women, said the motion to withdraw the contempt of court charge was "a huge victory not only for Ms. Dietrich, but for women all over the country."


Deitrich told The Courier-Journal that after the sexual assault, the boys posted photos of the attack on the Internet.


"These boys shared the picture of her being raped with their friends and she can't share their names with her Twitter community? That's just crazy," O'Neill said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/savannah-dietrich-contempt-charege_n_1696303.html

 

[Cythim]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/savannah-dietrich-contempt-charege_n_1696303.html

Still nothing. These are just claims without support.

 

[03EBZ06]

Still nothing. These are just claims without support.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink ...

 

[RoyTheHammer]

How severe the sexual assault was will determine how hard the punishment is. I want to know how bad it was so I can agree or disagree with her that the punishment was enough. If it was rape I would probably agree, I don't think juvenile court and a plea deal is appropriate for a rape charge. I do not know that it was rape and I am asking for anything that I might not have seen that supports the rape charge.

If you're looking at it from a point of view as to "what actually happened so i can assess if the punishment was enough for the boys who did this" then i, and a bunch of other people, wouldn't have looked at your initial post as completely insensitive.

The problem is now, you are taking a different tone from that first post you made, where you were acting like the fact that it may not have been rape but ONLY sexual assault would make some big difference as to how it affected the girl. Either way its not something that can be easily thrown aside and moved on from. Its something that really messes alot of people up inside and a disgusting, sickening thing to have to live with for the rest of her life.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Sometimes it is better to keep that voice in your head from speaking out through your mouth, or in this case through your fingers and onto a forum.

In other words some things are better left unsaid and sometimes it is better off to drop an argument that in no way looks good on your end even if your point is not as bad as others perceive it.

Just friendly advice...not a requirement to take it.

 

[Cythim]

If you're looking at it from a point of view as to "what actually happened so i can assess if the punishment was enough for the boys who did this" then i, and a bunch of other people, wouldn't have looked at your initial post as completely insensitive.

The problem is now, you are taking a different tone from that first post you made, where you were acting like the fact that it may not have been rape but ONLY sexual assault would make some big difference as to how it affected the girl. Either way its not something that can be easily thrown aside and moved on from. Its something that really messes alot of people up inside and a disgusting, sickening thing to have to live with for the rest of her life.

My apologies, I should have broken my two thoughts up by doing more than separating them into paragraphs. I know this won't be easy for her to overcome, and seeing a sentence that you think is too light won't help her any. The fact that she has been outspoken about it leads be to believe she will make it through and will not be ruined by it. Forever change, certainly, but not ruined.

 

[Cythim]

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink ...

The evidence that points to rape is not out there, I have looked for it. Everything is sealed and won't be coming out in the near future. I am merely interested in knowing if she is right that they got off light. If this was rape then they certainly did but if it was something less then it could be reasonable. Sexual Assault covers a wide range with rape being the most extreme. I haven't ruled out rape but I am not going to assume that is what happened because a few people on the internet said so.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Still nothing. These are just claims without support.

I take my last post back..

What do you want Cythim? You want to see pictures of her being raped? You want to see video? Should we call the boys and ask them if they can come reenact what they did to her to your daughter?

You arn't concerned with the "law" part of it.. you simply think people are making too big a deal over how harshly this traumatic event will damage her for the rest of her life.. and you are making yourself look profoundly foolish in doing so.

 

[Cythim]

Sometimes it is better to keep that voice in your head from speaking out through your mouth, or in this case through your fingers and onto a forum.

In other words some things are better left unsaid and sometimes it is better off to drop an argument that in no way looks good on your end even if your point is not as bad as others perceive it.

Just friendly advice...not a requirement to take it.

Sometimes groupthink needs to be combated with a nice heap of ******baggedness.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Sometimes groupthink needs to be combated with a nice heap of baggedness.

Sometimes...not this time.

 

[Cythim]

I take my last post back..

What do you want Cythim? You want to see pictures of her being raped? You want to see video? Should we call the boys and ask them if they can come reenact what they did to her to your daughter?

You arn't concerned with the "law" part of it.. you simply think people are making too big a deal over how harshly this traumatic event will damage her for the rest of her life.. and you are making yourself look profoundly foolish in doing so.

I want to know the severity of the crime is all, and mentioning my daughter like that is completely uncalled for. The victim claimed justice was not served and I want to be able to agree or disagree with that opinion. As part of the plea there must be some kind of signed confession... that's the way they do it on Law and Order. This has nothing to do with the the victim's recovery and everything to do with knowing if justice was served.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I want to know the severity of the crime is all, and mentioning my daughter like that is completely uncalled for. The victim claimed justice was not served and I want to be able to agree or disagree with that opinion. As part of the plea there must be some kind of signed confession... that's the way they do it on Law and Order. This has nothing to do with the the victim's recovery and everything to do with knowing if justice was served.

You continue to act as if people are overreacting to how this will effect the girl for the rest of her life. You continue to use the word rape as only a law term, and not acknowledge the true meaning of the word in this case. Maybe it doesn't satisfy all the legal definitions to be proven in court, but this girl was raped, Cythim, in more way than one. If this had happened to one of your children, i think you'd react from an entirely different perspective than the faux Johnny Law routine you're giving us now.

"Hmm.. was the case satisfied and was justice served here, hmmmm..."

You know what? No.. a plea deal for anyone who sexually assaults someone while they are passed out, and then piles on by posting the pictures online for the entire community to see, is NEVER enough Cythim.

..and then the lawyer for the boys has the nerve to say something like this:

Chris Klein, an attorney for one of the boys, said publicizing their names may create problems for them in the future.

Oh, really? Might they have a few problems in the future? Good grief..

 

[joseephuss]

I want to know the severity of the crime is all, and mentioning my daughter like that is completely uncalled for. The victim claimed justice was not served and I want to be able to agree or disagree with that opinion. As part of the plea there must be some kind of signed confession... that's the way they do it on Law and Order. This has nothing to do with the the victim's recovery and everything to do with knowing if justice was served.

Take rape out of the equation. They posted pictures of themselves with her passed out on the internet, which is a public forum. They now won't have their names released in the public as part of this plea deal. That is not justice even if there was no rape.