2008 Senior Bowl Tuesday Practice Reports

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Chocolate Lab;1922034 said:
Hey, maybe IronCowboy is right and he's improved. If Bryant's motor is good, he likely can be developed with that size. I just didn't see much when I watched.

I guess I have a hard time reconciling "Jamal Williams" and "fourth rounder" since Williams is so darn good.

Choc, I just checked my home e-mail, and there is some stuff on Bryant, Chris Johnson, and Chris Williams the OT from Vanderbilt (among other players). I subsribe to draftinsiders, so I'm getting emails from them on a regular basis . . . .

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Monday afternoon had simultaneous practices after the morning weigh-in. We have three scouts here including myself and covered both practices Monday. QB Colt Brennan of Hawaii threw the ball nicely and needs a big week to dispel issues related to him being a "Systems" passer. He needs to show he can make the right decisions and throws in the three, five and seven step drops. He is recovering from the flu and came in at only 185 lbs. He played at 195 lbs. as a senior and needs a strong week to be considered a top 5 prospect at the position. More on him over the week. QB Joe Flacco of Delaware had a nice day of practice Tuesday throwing the ball after being wild on day one, Monday. That is understandable for a first day especially from a small college kid. OT Chris Williams of Vanderbilt had a fine practice. He is a massive athlete with footwork, technique and great power. He comes off the ball with a strong punch and fine functional strength to get a consistently good push at the line of scrimmage. Safety Quintin Demps of UTEP moves well and shows the instincts to get to the ball easily. He shows cornerback like skills in coverage, though he needs some technique development. OL Oniel Cousins of UTEP is a fine athlete with the footwork and physical tools to play several positions along the line. He played tackle in college and is lining up there in the practices, but probably projects inside to center/guard early in his pro career. Safety Jamar Adams of Michigan had a huge hit on FB Owen Schmidt of West Virginia that drew attention. He is a huge safety who looks the part as an In the box defender. DE Kendall Langford of Hampton looked sharp in drills. He is a huge defensive end who can play in either front line. He has all the physical skills to compete here. RB Chris Johnson of East Carolina showed good speed and running skills. He caught the ball well in passing drills and looks to show his well rounded ability this week. DT Red Bryant of Texas A&M looked like a beast most in the middle. He was stout in the middle and held up well vs the double teams. He rarely got outside the tackle box to make plays. He can play too high that at 6'5" most big linemen will tend to allow to happen. When he got into the blocker's chest, he was able to push him back to the quarterback. OT Heath Benedict of Newberry checked in at 321 lbs. and over 6'4". He held up well in drills especially from a power standpoint.


Several players withdrew from the Senior Bowl due to injuries, notably QB Brian Brohm of Louisville, TE John Carlton of Notre Dame and DE Quentin Groves of Auburn

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Bob Sacamano;1922065 said:
thanks for the Chris Johnson update, Woods

Yes, he looks very interesting.

I doubt he lasts until our 2nd round pick.

I think if we land him we'd have to either trade down with our 28th pick or take him there.

But there will be guys like M Hart probably available with our 2nd (or even in the 3rd round), and it appears guys like Forte are also good prospects.

This seems like a really deep class for RB.
 

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Woods;1922072 said:
Yes, he looks very interesting.

I doubt he lasts until our 2nd round pick.

I think if we land him we'd have to either trade down with our 28th pick or take him there.

But there will be guys like M Hart probably available with our 2nd (or even in the 3rd round), and it appears guys like Forte are also good prospects.

This seems like a really deep class for RB.

it is a deep draft for RBs, I just prefer CJ over alot of them

wouldn't make or break the draft if we got him, or didn't, but it would be noice
 

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Mayock loves McKelvin, he has him as the #1 Corner in the Draft, only question is his hands.
 

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AmishCowboy;1922089 said:
Mayock loves McKelvin, he has him as the #1 Corner in the Draft, only question is his hands.

that's 2 highly respected guys that have him as their 1 and 2 corner, Scott Wright of NFLDraftCOuntdown has him as his #2 guy

not looking good for us, but hope remains, c'mon small-school bigots, snub, snub, SNUB
 

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Red Bryant DT Texas A&M
STRENGTHS
Red is a big, powerful DT with the athletic ability to take on and shed blockers and make a tackle. He is an excellent run-stuffing DT. He shows good quickness off the snap and is strong enough to handle a double team and tie up offensive lineman so that the other D-lineman can make a play. Red does the grunt work and does it willingly. He understands situational football and makes the players around him better. He shows leadership qualities on the field and is the type of player you can use to build your defense around. Red reminds me a lot of Jammal Williams (DT San Diego Chargers). I call him Red (The Clog) Bryant because he will clog up the middle of your offense so badly that you will have to call a plumber to get it opened up!

NEEDS TO IMPROVE
Red can push the pocket, but is not going to get many sacks unless someone runs them into his arms. Red also must learn to keep his shoulders square to the line of scrimmage. This spin move garbage someone is teaching him is not going to cut it at the next level.

TALENT BOARD ROUND 4
If you want to build a Super Bowl defense, then you have to draft a player like Red Bryant. For example, Jammal Williams has been the key cog in the defense of the Chargers for the last few years. This year, Jammal has been injured and the Chargers’ defense has suffered tremendously. Since Jammal has come off the injury, the Charger defense has come back to life. It is no coincidence. Jammal is a two down and out D-lineman that has the ability to affect third downs by getting the other team into third and long situations all game long. This allows the Chargers to pass rush on third down without the worry of a running play. Red has the potential to have this same effect and it will not matter if you run a 3-4 defense or a 4-3 defense. Red will take up two Offensive Lineman in any type of defense. This allows a defensive coordinator to run all types of different run blitz and pass blitz schemes. You can get an NFL QB to make more bad decisions that lead to interceptions (and that means turnovers), if you can push the pocket. A sack is not a turnover! Frustrating an offense all game long by taking the run away and pushing the pocket on passing downs is a sure way to win a game. I have seen many D-Linemen with multiple sacks in a game be on the losing side at the end of the game; however, it is rare to see a defense that has stopped the run be on the losing side. If you stop the other team from running and push the pocket, it is a sure bet that you will get multiple interceptions and be on the winning side. Red understands his own talents and knows exactly what is going to be required of him from the team that drafts him. He understands that he will not get credit from the fans for doing his job and will not be interviewed by the press after a win. But he also knows that he will be one of the big reasons for the win. Red (The Clog) Bryant -- that’s one clog I don’t mind having.

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hmm, may need to change my mock to include Bryant, may have to stick him in the 3rd round, at least
 

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Goldenrichards83;1922084 said:
Cowboys showed alot of interest in Tashard Choice today.

What do you know about him?, I know about Jones, Stewart, Rice, etc, But I keep hearing his name, maybe 2nd or 3rd round?.
 

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AmishCowboy;1922102 said:
What do you know about him?, I know about Jones, Stewart, Rice, etc, But I keep hearing his name, maybe 2nd or 3rd round?.
Big. Strong. Fast. Shifty. Has top-end speed. Great vision. Basically everything you'd ask for in a RB. Most other drafts, he'd be a mid-to-late first rounder.

He might make it to our 2nd round pick. I would do backflips. And post it on youtube.
 

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The McKelvin hype is worrying me. I hope hes there for our first pick. We maybe even be able to get Kentwan Balmer and put him at DE inplace of Marcus Spears. Get a running back with our second pick and then in the 3rd go for either Red Bryant or Receiver. If we go for Bryant there will be a solid, speed receiver in the 4th.

That is all just wishful thinking. We can ever leave RB to the 4th round because the depth is unbelieveable.

1.a Leodis McKelvin
1.b Kentwan Balmer
2. Andre Caldwell
3. Red Bryant
4. Dantrell Savage

Something like that. Even though I'd rather have a guy like Johnson, Mendenhall or Stewart.
 

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IronCowboy;1922116 said:
The McKelvin hype is worrying me. I hope hes there for our first pick. We maybe even be able to get Kentwan Balmer and put him at DE inplace of Marcus Spears. Get a running back with our second pick and then in the 3rd go for either Red Bryant or Receiver. If we go for Bryant there will be a solid, speed receiver in the 4th.
I doubt very seriously Mckelvin, Cason, and Jenkins all go before 22. It's possible but unlikely, and I'd be happy with any of the 3.
 

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AmishCowboy;1922089 said:
Mayock loves McKelvin, he has him as the #1 Corner in the Draft, only question is his hands.

I can see why. In reading all the corner reports, they almost all seem to lack something. Few of them seem to have standout speed. McKelvin seems to have the best combination of everything.
 

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nyc;1921717 said:
And this is what the best college CBs do to him. Just wait until some schmuck drafts him and NFL cornors do their impression of an total eclipse on him.

I will release the the viking hoard on Jerry if he drafts Bowman.

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Vintage;1921637 said:
Tracy Porter is a guy that really interests me. He has the speed and athleticism to really stick with a guy a la Newman.

And I am with Bob Sacamano on the Bruce Davis idea...... I am interested in him as a project type player for us in the mid rounds.

Dallas should really look into drafting this guy...

wayne motley;1921906 said:
Since when are LB's allowed to avoid blocks? I'm confused...I need to start watching other teams more.

I REALLY LIKE Rivers to replace Ayodele.

Bigdog;1921909 said:
I am really beginning to like this Godfrey kid from Iowa. From what I read, he is 6'1, 208, runs 4.4 forty. Maybe we can get him in the 3rd but if he continues to impress, he will probably be gone. Does anyone know anything about this kid? Thanks.

I like the Tracy Porter more...
 

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theogt;1922100 said:
w00t!

PS - Where did you read this?
I read it in a insider that I subscribe too and I am not allowed to post the information. I think he would be a great option if we can't get CJ.
 

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Goldenrichards83;1922084 said:
Cowboys showed alot of interest in Tashard Choice today.

Source?

Never mind. I saw the post above.
 
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