2008 Senior Bowl Tuesday Practice Reports

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Can someone give me a rundown on Doucet. I've read a few scouting reports and seen a couple highlight vids but nothing really seems to stand out about the guy. I will say this he body type reminds me of a Greg Jennings.

Since you guys are alreayd sold on the guy try and sell me on him too
 

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i've said it all along. oklahoma st wr's(bowman) are just as worthless as a nebraska qb.
 

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Senior Bowl - Tuesday Press Conference Notes
Scott Wright
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Lane Kiffin - North Head Coach

• Very excited to be here and feels it's a great opportunity. Thinks it's an advantage because they get insight on the players both on and off the field.

• They are treating this just like a game week.

• They installed a huge playbook, especially on offense, because they wanted to challenge the players.

• Said he thought Joe Flacco had done a "really good job".

• Thinks quarterback is the team's strength.

• Kentwan Balmer is injured and will be replaced on the roster.

• The severity of Beau Bell's injury is still unknown.

Mike Nolan - South Head Coach

• Excited to be here but not happy that this is the 3rd year in a row that they are coaching because it means they haven't been very good.

• Has been here as an assistant coach at least five other times as well.

• There are nine players still on the roster that they coached in the Senior Bowl and two of them they traded up in the first round to select, referring to Manny Lawson and Joe Staley.

• Says this is also a great chance to get a look at how Mike Martz and the new offensive staff works together.

• They will run some of the 'tweeners through linebacker drills.

• Matt Forte caught his eye and he asked their scouts about him. Says he's big, strong and physical.

• Likes the defensive backs they have here and says that they have good height but not necessarily great size. Said they are football players and not just track stars. Singled out Leodis McKelvin, Marcus Griffin, Patrick Lee as guys who impressed him.

• Gary Guyton and Ahtyba Rubin have been added to his roster.

• Tavares Gooden is still being bothered by a pre-existing injury.

• When asked about the guys who opted not to take part in this game he said he wants players who love the game and aren't afraid to compete on his team. Says he won't have to worry about that factor with the guys who are here participating.

Chad Henne, QB, Michigan (North)
John David Booty, QB, USC (North)

• Both excited to be here, especially since they have former college teammates here with them. Booty has eight and Henne has two.

• Henne feels he had good timing in leaving Michigan now since they are installing a spread offense, which he obviously wouldn't be a fit for due to his lack of mobility.

• Booty said that the biggest adjustment so far has been the terminology and the language while Henne said it's been pretty easy because this offense is very similar to what he ran with the Wolverines.

• J.D. Booty seemed real comfortable and outgoing in front of the microphone.

Colt Brennan, QB, Hawaii (South)
Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky (South)

• Brennan said that in high school he was coached by quarterback gurus Bob Johnson and Steve Clarkson and learned the West Coast Offense with Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart. In fact, he went to Colorado to run the West Coast Offense. He said it is all coming back to him and it's like riding a bike.

• Woodson decided to participate this week because he wanted to compete and work with NFL coaches. He feels it's privilege to be here.

• It's pretty hard not to like Colt Brennan and he is one of the most charismatic and outgoing football players that I have ever been around. Whether or not that will help him achieve success at the next level remains to be seen but he definitely has the "It" factor and I have been very impressed with him off the field.
 

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• Says this is also a great chance to get a look at how Mike Martz and the new offensive staff works together.
I guess we can forget about scouting any South running backs. :eek::
 

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Senior Bowl - Tuesday South Practice
Scott Wright
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Today was my first opportunity to see the South and I always feel a bit frenzied when watching a team practice for the first time. There is just so much to see that I end up bouncing around like crazy. As the week goes on I am able to settle in and focus on certain positions and players but today I was just trying to get an overall feel for what this squad had to offer. Luckily the weather held up again and despite threatening to rain at one point the sun even began to peak out toward the end of the session. Here are my notes from today's South practice:

• The headliners of the South team are the quarterbacks so why don't we start there. To be honest nobody stood out, although if you put a gun to my head I'd say Hawaii's Colt Brennan looked the best, although just by the narrowest of margins. I actually found a spot on the sideline where the quarterbacks were throwing 20 yard outs right in my direction to try and gauge arm strengths and it was almost too close to call. Kentucky's Andre Woodson and Tennessee's Erik Ainge seemed to float their throws a bit whereas Brennan gets them there on a rope. Brennan also showed the ability to fit balls into a tight spot although he seemed a bit indecisive at times.

• I was covering the North practice yesterday but I heard all about how good Tennessee St. cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie looked and he certainly lived up to the hype today. A smooth athlete with quick feet and fluid hips, Rodgers-Cromartie saw action at both safety and corner and made an amazing interception, displaying excellent leaping ability, hands and ball skills. This guy is the real deal!

• Houston wide receiver Donnie Avery was awfully impressive today. He really eats up turf quickly and also displayed good hands. I'm still not sure he's an NFL starter though...

• Georgia Tech running back Tashard Choice looked good, showing terrific vision and a nice burst to turn the corner. Choice is a natural runner and helped himself today.

• Cornerback Leodis McKelvin of Troy has great feet and also worked extensively as a punt returner but didn't flash like I thought he might. Maybe tomorrow.

• Alabama wideout D.J. Hall was not running very good routes and he really drew the ire of the San Francisco coaching staff.

• Tennessee tight end Brad Cottam is HUGE and really stands out on the field. In fact, he definitely has the frame to bulk up even further and a move to offensive tackle is not out of the question in my mind.

• Newberry offensive tackle Heath Benedict looked very good today. Benedict, who is lean and athletic and carries his weight well, was dominant at times in "The Pit" (just ask Wallace Gilberry) and he definitely lived up to his reputation for being physical and aggressive.

• Defensive end Kendall Langford displayed the ability to shed blocks and also showcased a strong bull rush. He doesn't have many other moves though.

• Vanderbilt offensive tackle Chris Williams had a terrific day and really makes it look easy.

• Florida St. defensive tackle Andre Fluellen is real quick and had a great day in "The Pit".

• Bowling Green center Kory Lichtensteiger really struggled with Dre Moore early on and it was starting to look like his size would be a major issue but later on he bounced back and held his own against Red Bryant.

• Arkansas defensive tackle Marcus Harrison looked impressive in "The Pit", specifically when it came to his bull rush.

• U.T.E.P. offensive tackle Oniel Cousins has excellent feet and very good balance.

• L.S.U. outside linebacker Ali Highsmith drew positive praise from none other than the Mike Singletary throughout the day. He was explosive off the ball, moved well laterally and did a nice job of dropping into coverage.

• Georgia Tech linebacker Philip Wheeler looked smooth and natural when dropping back into coverage. He was also a little feisty and played with a nasty demeanor.

• Tulane running back Matt Forte showed good power but didn't have the speed to get to the edge or turn the corner.

• Florida wide receiver Andre Caldwell made several nice catches and looked good.

• South Florida linebacker Ben Moffitt didn't stand out in positional drills but he looked better once put in football situations.

• So far Auburn cornerback Patrick Lee has not been quite as impressive as expected. He hasn't been bad but he hasn't stood out either.

• Georgia Tech linebacker Gary Guyton was still getting his feet under him and Mike Singletary seemed to go out of his way to give him a little extra attention.

• Despite having all the physical tools you could ask for Clemson offensive tackle Barry Richardson really struggled in both 1-on-1's and 11-on-11's.

• L.S.U. fullback Jacob Hester looked thicker than I expected, especially his lower body.

• The ball didn't explode off the foot of Georgia Tech punter Durant Brooks like it did some top punters from recent years like Dustin Colquitt, Ryan Plackemeier or Daniel Sepulveda.

• In addition to Leodis McKelvin Kentucky's Rafael Little also worked as a punt returner.

As always the South features a lot of exciting athletes, which was a nice contrast to the North squad who's top talent is primarily in the trenches. The two standouts for me today were Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Donnie Avery but you know I'll be keeping a close eye on Andre Woodson and Colt Brennan the rest of the way to see how they progress. Now that I have one South practice under my belt I'll be able to zero in and get more specific in the coming days so be sure to check back for all the latest.
 

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The nightmare continues for Oklahoma St. wideout Adarius Bowman


Wasn't somebody ALL OVER this guy's jock earlier in the year?
 

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Lavelle Hawkins, WR, California: Slender receiver who has good pop in and out of his cuts. Caught most balls with his hands. Has a nice burst to separate from corners down the field.

Good to hear that Lavelle Hawkins is having a good week of practice so far. IMO, he is one of the more polished receivers in this draft, runs sound routes and has pretty soft hands. I don't think he's physically gifted enough to ever be a #1 receiver, but I do think he has what it takes to keep drives alive and would be an asset as the 2nd or 3rd option. If he's there in the 4th, I'd be all about drafting this kid.
 

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Rack;1922716 said:
Wasn't somebody ALL OVER this guy's jock earlier in the year?

and wouldn't it be a bit early to write him off already?
 

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One player I keep reading positive things about is OT C Williams from Vanderbilt. I think he's expected to go in the 2nd round.

If we don't re-sign Flo, maybe we end up drafting an OT Day 1 to provide competition for Free and McQ.
 

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theogt;1922699 said:
• I was covering the North practice yesterday but I heard all about how good Tennessee St. cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie looked and he certainly lived up to the hype today. A smooth athlete with quick feet and fluid hips, Rodgers-Cromartie saw action at both safety and corner and made an amazing interception, displaying excellent leaping ability, hands and ball skills. This guy is the real deal!

Oh....hello.
• Georgia Tech running back Tashard Choice looked good, showing terrific vision and a nice burst to turn the corner. Choice is a natural runner and helped himself today.

Hello again. Welcome to Dallas.
 

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USC players once again dominating the practice scene

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Updated: January 22, 2008, 7:17 PM ET
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MOBILE, Ala. -- More information is circulating regarding the absence of several top prospects from the 2008 Senior Bowl. Officials knew in advance that projected first-rounders such as Michigan OT Jake Long, Virginia DE Chris Long and South Florida CB Mike Jenkins would not be in attendance. We also hear from several reliable sources that Louisville QB Brian Brohm gave officials fair warning that he would not be making the trip to Mobile, but they asked him to delay his announcement, fearing that other top prospects -- namely quarterbacks Andre' Woodson (Kentucky) and Chad Henne (Michigan) -- also would bail. As such, it should be noted that Brohm handled the situation maturely and did not leave game officials hanging in the balance.

Brohm does have a minor ankle injury, which is his public reasoning for not participating in this week's events. While scouts do believe the injury to be legitimate, several we've spoken to feel there were other factors involved in his decision -- BC's Matt Ryan bailing out and a rain-filled forecast, to name two. Regardless of what scouts believe, it's unfortunate that Brohm isn't here this week. The overall quarterback play is weak, and he could have distinguished himself as the clear-cut top prospect of the group -- slightly ahead of Woodson and Henne, and significantly ahead of others.

Notre Dame TE John Carlson and Auburn DE/OLB Quentin Groves both have legitimate excuses for being absent. Carlson contracted a bacterial infection while training with Brohm and others in Southern California. He lost approximately 15 pounds and is focusing on regaining his strength for the combine and on individual workouts between now and April's draft. Groves battled two lingering toe injuries during his senior season and since has developed turf toe. Instead of risking further injury, he is electing to sit out the Senior Bowl in hopes of being fully recovered for next month's combine.

As for news on the field, teams practiced for the first time in full pads Tuesday. The North squad kicked things off in the morning, while the South's practiced in the afternoon.



Around the North practice
• USC's Keith Rivers clearly is the most complete linebacker prospect on the North roster. In addition to showing great instincts and quickness, Rivers plays with a mean streak. He takes on blockers and fights hard to get through traffic. He looks to be in excellent physical shape, and his range versus both the run and the pass is impressive.

• Jordon Dizon (Colorado) doesn't look the part of an NFL linebacker, but somehow, he winds up around the ball on nearly every play. His feet are outstanding, and he covers a lot of real estate in zone. He has an uncanny knack for avoiding blockers without taking himself out of the play. His lack of size and power will prevent him from playing in the middle at the next level, but he has a chance to make an impact on the weak side in a smaller-type scheme such as those run by the Colts and Broncos.

• Justin Forsett (California) and Chauncey Washington (USC) had the best showings of the North running backs. Forsett runs hard and has shown an extra gear when he breaks through the line of scrimmage. Washington did an excellent job of catching the ball out of the backfield during seven-on-seven and team sessions. He also showed a second gear when he broke into the open field. He has some durability issues and off-the-field baggage, but he still stands to gain from this experience if he builds on the momentum from Tuesday.

• None of the other running backs were overly impressive. Chris Johnson (East Carolina) failed to stand out, despite his exceptional speed. Dantrell Savage (Oklahoma State) didn't show the burst, elusiveness or power to create anything on his own.

• The tight ends on the North roster are an interesting group to study. Michigan State's Kellen Davis is the guy you want leading the team off the bus, but he is the least productive of the three between the lines. He's a bit stiff as a route runner, and his effort, leverage and technique as a blocker are far too inconsistent. Martin Rucker (Missouri) is right down the middle. He looks the part in pads and is a reliable short-to-intermediate receiver, but his game seems to come up short in terms of explosiveness. Fred Davis (USC) is the least impressive physically, but he clearly is the best pass-catcher and all-around athlete of the group. We still want to see more of him as an inline blocker this week, but there is no question he has first-round receiving skills.

• It has become apparent in just two practices that Purdue WR Dorien Bryant is the most polished receiver here. With good quickness off the line, Bryant shows the ability to break down a corner's cushion right out of the gate. Bryant also attacks defenders with proper position that creates leverage, giving him the ability to get solid separation out of his breaks. One of Bryant's highlights Tuesday came during the one-on-one period. Showing sound technique getting off the line against press man, he was able to swim and get to the outside. Displaying great body control, he instantly stopped on a fade thrown behind him and attacked the ball, coming down with the reception. Adding to his résumé, Bryant also looked very effective as a return man during the special teams period.

• Bryant wasn't the only North receiver to impress scouts Tuesday. California's Lavelle Hawkins continues to turn heads with his consistency. He runs smooth, crisp routes, knows how to separate from man coverage and does an excellent job of plucking the ball on the run. He shined during the one-on-one periods, beating defenders all three times he lined up. He used quick feet to beat the jam at the line and also displayed the top-end speed to beat Boston College CB DeJuan Tribble down the sideline for a deep reception. One of his more impressive plays came during the team period. After slipping out of his break, Hawkins was able to recover and do a nice job of going down low to make the reception on a curl route.

• Oklahoma State WR Adarius Bowman is off to a slow start. Taking too long to get out of his breaks, Bowman has failed to create solid separation, but he makes up for it by using his bigger frame to shield defenders from the ball. Unfortunately, Bowman also has given scouts some concern with the consistency of his hands. He has not looked natural catching the ball, often times appearing to fight it. This has resulted in multiple drops throughout the first two days of practice. He will need to turn things around in a hurry and finish the week strong to make up for the slow start.

• Finding a shutdown corner who has the ability to lock up man-to-man is never easy, but using his tremendous speed and fluid hips, Indiana CB Tracy Porter has made a solid case for himself this week. Porter is a quick-twitch corner and has done an outstanding job of blanketing receivers throughout both practices. Showing great instincts, he has the unique ability to make a quick break on the ball. This was evident during the seven-on-seven period when Porter was able to come up with an interception and head the other way for six points. He read the quick drop of Delaware QB Joe Flacco, and showing great anticipation, beat the receiver to the spot on a slant route.

• Colorado CB Terrence Wheatley also has been impressive throughout the week. He displays very smooth feet, showing good ability to mirror and stay with receivers. With good ability to turn and run combined with adequate top-end speed, he rarely trails receivers and often runs step-for-step with them down the sideline. He also has shown sound ability to break out his backpedal; he broke up a curl route during seven-on-seven drills.


• BC's Tribble, on the other hand, has failed to prove he can lock up in man coverage. Multiple times, he trailed receivers while struggling to flip his hips and change direction instantly. There also is concern about his overall strength. Attempting to jam at the line, Tribble was overpowered by Kansas State WR Jordy Nelson, who knocked Tribble off balance and sent him stumbling to the ground.

• Sedrick Ellis is a great player. Although he doesn't look the part because he is just 257 pounds and short by NFL standards, Ellis is nearly un-blockable by just one offensive lineman, even against this level of talent. He might be the best football player in Mobile at any position. He gets off the ball with outstanding explosiveness and often beats heavier-footed interior offensive linemen with just his quickness, but he is also an exceptional technique and hands player and his feet never stop moving. Ellis almost always has better pad level than his opponent and has a quick and powerful rip move that he uses to perfection. He is a stunner who can jolt his opponent with his hands and move them backwards with his power. Centers Mike Pollack and John Sullivan were overwhelmed by Ellis in one-on-ones today and probably will be all week long. In 2008, NFL interior linemen might be overwhelmed by Ellis as well.

• At several points of practice, the North's entire left side was made up of USC players. It was not uncommon to see Drew Radovich at left guard, Sam Baker at left tackle and TE Fred Davis flanking Baker. Considering it's so early in the week, the familiarity that these college teammates have with one another was apparent and a tremendous advantage, particularly with combination blocks in the run game. Watching Radovich and Baker in one-on-ones wasn't particularly impressive nor necessarily a poor showing, but Radovich can struggle with quickness and upfield penetrators while Baker needs to get stronger in both his upper and lower body. Both players certainly have starting potential however.

• We touched on Ellis, but overall, the North's group of defensive tackles could give the South's interior offensive line fits. Notre Dame's Trevor Laws doesn't make you take notice with his physical traits, but he is the type of defensive tackle who just doesn't go away or take a play off. His peskiness and tenacity leads to this Golden Domer making plenty of plays when the game is said and done. At the next level, he would be best used in a rotation, but he could excel in that role.

• Nebraska's Carl Nicks is an underrated prospect at this point, but don't expect his vast abilities to go unnoticed with all these offensive line coaches in attendance. Yes, Nicks is still unpolished and hasn't played a lot of football at a high level, but he has some traits that should make scouts very excited. He can be overly aggressive and certainly needs to be coached up -- but that is what offensive line coaches are for. Nicks is massive and very powerful in both his upper and lower body. He is light enough on his feet to secure the right edge in the NFL and has the power to move the pile and consistently open holes for a power running team. Nicks might begin his career at guard, but has the looks of a fine starting right tackle in time.


Around the South practice
• Tulane RB Matt Forte is making some money in Mobile this week. The 6-foot-1, 221-pound back is proving to scouts on hand that the nation's second-leading rusher in 2007 is not simply a function of lower-level FBS competition. In fact, he is standing out as the most complete back thus far on the South roster -- and that includes Georgia Tech standout Tashard Choice. Forte is a strong, compact runner who displays good burst through the line of scrimmage. He has soft hands and is very comfortable catching the football. He also shows good instincts and the strength to anchor as a pass-blocker. Outside of Arkansas' Darren McFadden and Illinois' Rashard Mendenhall, Forte could be the highest-rated running back weighing in at 215-plus pounds in a deep 2008 class.
• It's easy to see why some teams are high on LSU OLB Ali Highsmith. He is a fast-flowing, athletic defender with good closing burst and initial striking power. But Highsmith isn't for everybody. He runs around too many blocks because he lacks the base and strength to win in the phone booth. As a result, he will occasionally get out of position and compromise his unit's gap integrity. Bottom line: Highsmith only has first-round value on a smaller defense that emphasizes athleticism over strength (see: Colts, Buccaneers, Lions, etc.).


• For the second straight day, Florida WR Andre Caldwell produced at a high level. Caldwell continues to impress scouts by displaying excellent ball skills with the ability to open his hips and pull in balls thrown behind him. Caldwell's overall strength was quite noticeable as he was able to withstand any jam defenders threw at him. Caldwell did a nice job of being stout and showed good ability to knock defenders hands down while creating a clean release off the line. The thing that impressed the scouts the most was his ability to attack the football. Caldwell showed no hesitation when coming across the middle going after and using his strong hands to haul in a catch in traffic.

• WR D.J. Hall's lack of suddenness is more obvious in a setting like this than it is watching most of his college games on film. Hall was a tremendously reliable and productive receiver at Alabama. He is an instinctive route runner with good size and excellent hands, which is why he should make some impact in the NFL. However, his inability to separate versus faster, more physical cover corners in press-man will likely prevent Hall from growing into a full-time starting role.

• LSU CB Chevis Jackson does not possess good top-end speed and likely will need to play in a Cover 2 heavy scheme in the NFL. However, it has not taken long to realize he's the most naturally instinctive cover corner on the South roster. He has an uncanny knack for reading quarterbacks' eyes, as well as anticipating receivers' breaks.

• On the flipside, Alabama CB Simeon Castille struggled out on an island. Giving up too much cushion combined with a lethargic break on the ball, Castille often gave up too much separation to wideouts. Castille's top-end speed is also in question as he allowed receivers to run by him on several occasions. In Castille's defense, he did display solid ball skills when in position to make a play on the ball. Castille also showed good overall athleticism and may have a niche as a nickel package defender at the next level.

• Red Bryant has to be catching the eyes of coaches and scouts. He is difficult to miss. Bryant is a giant person (6-5, 329) who has long arms and the bulk to be a true, two-gap lineman. He can really jolt offensive linemen with his heavy powerful hands and once he has a hold of his blocker, he simply drives him backwards with his power. He is very difficult to move and occupies space in the middle quite well. Bryant is also difficult to throw over and should bat down a lot of passes in the NFL. While he isn't overly dynamic and doesn't have an especially wide array of pass rush moves, players with Bryant's skill set are difficult to find. He should have many suitors from teams that need big, space-eating defensive tackles or clubs that employ a 3-4 scheme.

• Pitt's Mike McGlynn runs from drill to drill like his hair is on fire. It is hard to miss a 309-pound offensive lineman running at full speed down the field to get to a drill. While hustle and "want to" are great traits, he needs to settle down a little bit. McGlynn is an intriguing prospect because he could potentially fill in at every line spot in the NFL with the exception of left tackle. At this point, he is a master of none, but does have some upside, particularly as a guard. McGlynn is also able to deep snap, which adds to his versatility. If he gets the opportunity to snap for punts -- it is a safe bet that McGlynn will hustle down the field.

• Maryland's Dre Moore was the most impressive big man for the South squad today. He has a reputation of turning it off and on and this forum is fantastic for him in that regard, but there was no denying that he was on today. As exciting as he is now, NFL decision makers need to temper their enthusiasm and go back and watch his game tape before pulling the trigger on Moore. But, he has excellent size and a fine physique for the position, runs very well and can make plays down the sideline. He is very powerful with fine explosiveness when he stays low out of his stance. Bowling Green C Kory Lichtensteiger was tortured by Moore today, but he wasn't alone. Moore can be a difference maker -- if he wants to be.

• It is somewhat odd how the South coaching staff is using their offensive tackles. Barry Richardson got the most snaps at left tackle today, but Oniel Cousins also got his share of reps there as well. Richardson is huge (6-6, 345) and can engulf his opponent, but lacks the quickness out of his stance and lateral agility to compete at left tackle at the highest level. Cousins (6-4, 303) is a far better athlete, but lacks ideal left tackle height and weight. The best candidate for the left side on this roster is Chris Williams, who is probably the top offensive line prospect on this squad. Williams is more of a finesse player than mauler, which doesn't suit the right tackle spot he was playing today. Williams had a very good practice, however, and stays square to his target with excellent lateral agility. He has the light feet and natural knee bend to adjust and recover when beaten. Williams should be on the left side.

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Goldenrichards83;1922084 said:
Cowboys showed alot of interest in Tashard Choice today.

I like Tashard Choice. He has a pretty good core, good vision, and a nice ability to cut back. My only issues with him is he doesn't have that explosive first step. With him having natural strength in his core, the explosive first step should something he can improve on with proper training like hill climbing.
 

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theogt;1922353 said:
Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma State: Another tough practice for Bowman, dropping multiple passes and fumbling a ball after being stripped by CB Terrell Thomas. Watched two go right through his own hands. He's also not very sudden in his routes.
WoodysGirl;1922869 said:
• Oklahoma State WR Adarius Bowman is off to a slow start. Taking too long to get out of his breaks, Bowman has failed to create solid separation, but he makes up for it by using his bigger frame to shield defenders from the ball. Unfortunately, Bowman also has given scouts some concern with the consistency of his hands. He has not looked natural catching the ball, often times appearing to fight it. This has resulted in multiple drops throughout the first two days of practice. He will need to turn things around in a hurry and finish the week strong to make up for the slow start.

Thats because he is a freakin stiff! Can you say 2x4? :rolleyes:
 

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Rack;1922716 said:
Wasn't somebody ALL OVER this guy's jock earlier in the year?

I must confess, I was one of the jock riders. Now, I'm riding Hardy's jock (no homo). :laugh2:
 

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All indication from what I heard from today that Bowman looked a lot better today
 

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cboyd;1923095 said:
All indication from what I heard from today that Bowman looked a lot better today

I wouldn't mind if Bowman's stock dropped and we could get him with a 2nd day pick.
 

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I dont think Bowman will be there in the second day, Bowman just had a slow start and is now catching up. Just a translation. He will get drafted in the first or second round
 

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hendog;1923102 said:
I wouldn't mind if Bowman's stock dropped and we could get him with a 2nd day pick.

I will stab you in the eye if you say that again! :laugh2: I wouldn't want Bowman as an undrafted free agent. The guy is a freakin stiff plain and simple. He lacks the fluidity to to be productive in any form in the NFL.

Bowman will look like he always has the chills in the NFL because he will always have a blanket on him.
 

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Bowman's a fine WR and I consider nyc's displeasure a ringing endorsement.
 
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