2013 NBA playoff thread

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Gemini Dolly;5099089 said:
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There was a report saying he will get MRI tomorrow and he is uncertain whether he will play Game 4.

Uh oh.

the good, he says he feels fine, that it didnt hurt at all

the bad, he said it felt weird at the time, something he had never felt before, it was like a popping feel, that doesnt sound good
 

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Biggems;5099081 said:
The Pistons were able to neutrilize Jordan, of course they used a very physical, dirty style that would cause their entire team to be fouled out and suspended by halftime in today's game.

They were able to beat Jordan, but one can't say they were able to neutralize him either. Jordan averaged 32 points in the 90 playoffs losing to Detroit, 30 in 89, and 27 in 88. There was never anything close to this or the Dallas series in any of the few playoff series that Jordan lost.
 

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MC KAos;5099091 said:
the good, he says he feels fine, that it didnt hurt at all

the bad, he said it felt weird at the time, something he had never felt before, it was like a popping feel, that doesnt sound good

Pop doesn't really mean a tear. It could simply be a sprain, the sound being caused by the muscle running against a bone. If he tore his hamstring, I'd wager it would look a lot worse than how he was on the sideline.
 

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Nation;5099132 said:
They were able to beat Jordan, but one can't say they were able to neutralize him either. Jordan averaged 32 points in the 90 playoffs losing to Detroit, 30 in 89, and 27 in 88. There was never anything close to this or the Dallas series in any of the few playoff series that Jordan lost.

The reality is this... The NBA not plays with 3 second defensive violation calls. During that era in particular, one could crowd the lane without any real repurcussions. The Spurs are playing off Lebron and clogging the lane in the context of this 3-second violation call. Lebron playing in that era would be a Lebron that would have to learn a jump shot very quickly. Pop is coaching this thing brilliantly.

Additionally, Lebron is essentially being guarded one-on-one by Leonard. If one pays attention, Lebron is getting his points in essentially garbage time and when Leonard is out of the game. Even in game 2, the Lebron's 'tear' came after the 15 point lead.

I think Lebron is over-rated and over-rated does not imply he isn't a great player. If you find somebody to match him physically, like a Leonard, then the inferior skill set to a guy like Kobe to score, let alone Jordan whose beyond the level of these guys, becomes very apparent.
 

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Lebron is a fraud... He didn't shoot a single free throw, not one. And don't give all the credit to Leonard, He's making Greene look like the second coming of Bruce Bowen too. It looks like the Mavs final all over again.
 

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khiladi;5099179 said:
I think Lebron is over-rated and over-rated does not imply he isn't a great player. If you find somebody to match him physically, like a Leonard, then the inferior skill set to a guy like Kobe to score, let alone Jordan whose beyond the level of these guys, becomes very apparent.

He is two inches taller than both Leonard and Green, while being bigger and stronger. I'm sure he has a better vert than both of them too. Shawn Marion matched him physically but not these two guys. He's just settling and is perfectly fine with it.

His skill set is not inferior to Kobe's or Jordan's, but his mindset is.
 

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Stern will adjust the game Thursday. It will be 2-2.
 

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Nation;5099079 said:
Great teams are able to neutralize Lebron. I can't think of any other supposed Top-Ten all time player in their prime that you could say that about.

Easy to neutralize him when you don't have to worry about the other players on the court.
 

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good news, i guess. Hopefully he doesnt hurt it further going forward.


Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo 8m
MRI says @tonyparker has a strained hamstring with no tear or defect.
 

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"Oh, hi Gary!" :laugh2:

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:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

From a chad ford chat

cc (ohio)

#1 pick and #31 pick for Kawhi Leonard and #28. Who says no?

Chad Ford (1:47 PM)

Spurs do.
 

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So glad Gary Neal had the big game he had last night. Neal went to my alma mater, Towson, and he was basically a walk-on who was frying us guys in open gym. The guys on the school's team started coming to open gym, and he was frying them too. Got the notice of the coach and made the team.

My school has never been good in basketball, so maybe his success will convince some recruits to commit to us instead of VCU or George Mason.
 

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Noryb;5099238 said:
He is two inches taller than both Leonard and Green, while being bigger and stronger. I'm sure he has a better vert than both of them too. Shawn Marion matched him physically but not these two guys. He's just settling and is perfectly fine with it.

His skill set is not inferior to Kobe's or Jordan's, but his mindset is.

Height is one thing, but Leonard has a 7'4 wing span. A little different to play against that, than someone 6'6.
 

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NIBGoldenchild;5099400 said:
So glad Gary Neal had the big game he had last night. Neal went to my alma mater, Towson, and he was basically a walk-on who was frying us guys in open gym. The guys on the school's team started coming to open gym, and he was frying them too. Got the notice of the coach and made the team.

Was he mostly a jump shooter in p/u games too, or was he doing everything? Always like hearing these stories.
 

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Noryb;5099238 said:
His skill set is not inferior to Kobe's or Jordan's, but his mindset is.

Uh, his skill is inferior to Kobe's which makes it implicitly way less than Jordan's. There is no comparison... That is why he's having difficulty maneuring around Leonard's arm length.
 

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bounce;5099401 said:
Height is one thing, but Leonard has a 7'4 wing span. A little different to play against that, than someone 6'6.

And Lebron is 290 of pure muscle, whether PEDs or not that gives him a clear advantage physically to others. Larry Sanders has an incredible wing-span as well. Leonard is just doing his thing.
 

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bounce;5099403 said:
Was he mostly a jump shooter in p/u games too, or was he doing everything? Always like hearing these stories.

He never took a shot inside the 3 point line. :laugh2: In fact, I recall him mostly take his shots an extra 5-6 feet out from the line. He used to show-off and bank long distance shots off the backboard. He was never playing hard against any of us, and he'd outscore the whole five he was playing against.

I think going overseas for a while really helped him flesh out his game.
 
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