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Oh man. You gave me a flashback.
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The mindset still exists. In fact, it has never changed.
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He lost his stride on the 2nd run.
The 4.53 is pretty much about what everyone figured. He's not a blazer. I'd have been really surprised to see a 4.45 or lower.
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His strength is versatility. Catches the ball like a wideout. If we'd gotten Bosa last year, I might be pulling for him to be our pick this year. Unlike a lot of these guys, he doesn't have a lot of wear and tear.
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On Halloween she dressed in all black and went as The Night
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The standout player today by my eye was Western Michigan OT Taylor Moton. Thought he really moved well for a guy who was supposed to have to kick inside to play in the NFL.
But I'm using this eye, so don't hold me to that.
But I'm using this eye, so don't hold me to that.
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Both of their workouts were underwhelming.
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He's more quick than fast. He never just ran away from people but he hit holes and cuts etc fast. Vastly underutilized while at UT
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He isn't CLOSE to being the player JWit was out of UT. Not as speedy (two knee surgeries) and certainly not near the blocker Jason was. This guy is vastly overrated.
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Adam Schefter
· [URL='https://www.facebook.com/AdamSchefter/posts/1423883137664323']20 mins ·[/URL]
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NFL officials are reviewing the procedures that contributed to Alabama LB Reuben Foster getting into a "heated altercation" with a hospital worker to see if they can make improvements and ensure it doesn't happen again, per league sources. Another league source said there was a "miscommunication" that allowed the argument between Foster and a hospital worker to escalate. Foster had been waiting for an extended period for what the NFL calls his "pre-exam", when he grew increasingly impatient and began questioning a hospital worker. The hosptial worker did not take kindly to Fosters words and eventually the two were face to face, in a heated exchange. Other players were there at the time and the NFL is questioning them to get a full account of events. But one league source said the league has to review the procedures and create better communication so that players understand what is happening and why there are delays. Foster is a potential top 10 pick and one executive from team said last night he thought, coming into the combine, that "Foster was a legitimate top 3 pick."
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· [URL='https://www.facebook.com/AdamSchefter/posts/1423883137664323']20 mins ·[/URL]
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NFL officials are reviewing the procedures that contributed to Alabama LB Reuben Foster getting into a "heated altercation" with a hospital worker to see if they can make improvements and ensure it doesn't happen again, per league sources. Another league source said there was a "miscommunication" that allowed the argument between Foster and a hospital worker to escalate. Foster had been waiting for an extended period for what the NFL calls his "pre-exam", when he grew increasingly impatient and began questioning a hospital worker. The hosptial worker did not take kindly to Fosters words and eventually the two were face to face, in a heated exchange. Other players were there at the time and the NFL is questioning them to get a full account of events. But one league source said the league has to review the procedures and create better communication so that players understand what is happening and why there are delays. Foster is a potential top 10 pick and one executive from team said last night he thought, coming into the combine, that "Foster was a legitimate top 3 pick."
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I expect the players to close ranks on this, even if they're competing to get higher in the draft.
Whatever happened it was a hugely stupid move by Foster. Hope for his sake there's no video.
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Can he be a feature back though or is he another Felix Jones? That's the question.
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Well okay. Reuben Foster's an idiot.
It's why I've always said you don't really know who you'd draft unless you got to sit down and talk with these players.
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Todd McShay
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INDIANAPOLIS -- The NFL combine is just a small sliver of the evaluation process. Evaluators often use it to confirm their scouting report from the tape. Let's take a look at how a few of the big-name prospects performed on Friday, when running backs and offensive linemen went through workouts.
Players analyzed below include: Stanford's Christian McCaffrey, LSU's Leonard Fournette, Florida State's Dalvin Cook, Tennessee's Alvin Kamara and Clemson's Mike Williams.
Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford
Rank entering combine: No. 37 overall | No. 4 RB
Coming into the day, I thought McCaffrey would run the slowest 40 time of the top four running backs (Fournette, Cook, Kamara). He's really shifty and accelerates quickly, but I wasn't sure what his top-end speed would be. McCaffrey ended up with an official time of 4.48, which is outstanding and the fastest time of this group. Where McCaffrey really shined, though, was with a 6.57-second three-cone. That's the second-fastest time among RBs since 2006, and it jibes with his short-area quickness and route-running ability on tape. And the Stanford product put on an absolute show during pass-catching drills. He just looks so natural catching the ball. If you draft McCaffrey, you're getting a really good running back and wide receiver. You can't say that about many guys. There's a good chance he goes in Round 1 after his performance.
Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU
Rank entering combine: No. 3 overall | No. 1 RB
Fournette's workout was a mixed bag. Let's start with the obvious: A 240-pound man should not be able to run the 40-yard dash in 4.51 seconds, but that's exactly what Fournette did on Friday. That's ridiculous, and it meshes with his tape. He's as good as you'll ever see at the college level in terms of straight-line explosiveness. That's why it was surprising to see Fournette jump just 28.5 inches in the vertical, which tests a player's lower-body power. According to ESPN's Stats & Information, 31.5 inches is the shortest vertical jump at the combine for a RB drafted in the first round since 2006 (Mark Ingram). That re-jump-started talk of Fournette's weight. It's pretty clear based on his 40 time that he's not out of shape, but teams will certainly be poking around to figure out what's going on there -- 240 is a lot of weight for a RB to carry. It'll be interesting to see what he weighs at LSU's pro day (April 5) and how he performs in the vertical and broad jumps.
Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State
Rank entering combine: No. 6 overall | No. 2 RB
Among the top four running backs, Cook is the best at stringing multiple cuts together and getting up the field in a hurry. He delivered in the straight-line speed department on Friday, too, running a 4.49 40. That's a really good time and it speaks to his game-breaking ability. Cook is also a very physical blocker in pass protection, and he showed off his strength by putting up 22 reps on the bench. That was tied for third most among all running backs this year. Cook came into the combine as an elite prospect, and he did nothing from a testing standpoint to hurt himself on Friday.
Alvin Kamara, RB, Tennessee
Rank entering combine: No. 30 overall | No. 3 RB
Kamara had the second-best overall workout of this group of four running backs. He has prototypical size at 5-foot-10 and 214 pounds, and while he didn't blaze the 40 (4.56), Kamara still posted a better-than-average time. He's going to be an interesting test case because there are a lot of games in which he had fewer than 10 carries, and he never had more than 18 rushing attempts in a game. Kamara interviewed very well from what I heard, he's very well-liked by his teammates, and he catches the ball cleanly. He has the skill set of a first-rounder. He's just so explosive, which showed up when he posted the best vertical jump (39.5 inches) and broad jump (10 feet, 11 inches) among all the running backs.
Mike Williams, WR, Clemson
Rank entering combine: No. 13 overall | No. 1 WR
Wide receivers did not work out on Friday, but Williams did announce that he will not run the 40-yard dash. Coming into the combine, the 40 was probably more important for Williams than any other player, given the questions about his top-end speed. Those questions aren't going away, but we'll get more clarity at Clemson's pro day on March 16. Here's the reality: At just over 6-foot-3½ and 218 pounds, if Williams runs 4.55 or better, he's totally fine. If that number creeps into the mid-4.6s, then it'll hurt his stock.
ESPN Senior Writer
INDIANAPOLIS -- The NFL combine is just a small sliver of the evaluation process. Evaluators often use it to confirm their scouting report from the tape. Let's take a look at how a few of the big-name prospects performed on Friday, when running backs and offensive linemen went through workouts.
Players analyzed below include: Stanford's Christian McCaffrey, LSU's Leonard Fournette, Florida State's Dalvin Cook, Tennessee's Alvin Kamara and Clemson's Mike Williams.
Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford
Rank entering combine: No. 37 overall | No. 4 RB
Coming into the day, I thought McCaffrey would run the slowest 40 time of the top four running backs (Fournette, Cook, Kamara). He's really shifty and accelerates quickly, but I wasn't sure what his top-end speed would be. McCaffrey ended up with an official time of 4.48, which is outstanding and the fastest time of this group. Where McCaffrey really shined, though, was with a 6.57-second three-cone. That's the second-fastest time among RBs since 2006, and it jibes with his short-area quickness and route-running ability on tape. And the Stanford product put on an absolute show during pass-catching drills. He just looks so natural catching the ball. If you draft McCaffrey, you're getting a really good running back and wide receiver. You can't say that about many guys. There's a good chance he goes in Round 1 after his performance.
Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU
Rank entering combine: No. 3 overall | No. 1 RB
Fournette's workout was a mixed bag. Let's start with the obvious: A 240-pound man should not be able to run the 40-yard dash in 4.51 seconds, but that's exactly what Fournette did on Friday. That's ridiculous, and it meshes with his tape. He's as good as you'll ever see at the college level in terms of straight-line explosiveness. That's why it was surprising to see Fournette jump just 28.5 inches in the vertical, which tests a player's lower-body power. According to ESPN's Stats & Information, 31.5 inches is the shortest vertical jump at the combine for a RB drafted in the first round since 2006 (Mark Ingram). That re-jump-started talk of Fournette's weight. It's pretty clear based on his 40 time that he's not out of shape, but teams will certainly be poking around to figure out what's going on there -- 240 is a lot of weight for a RB to carry. It'll be interesting to see what he weighs at LSU's pro day (April 5) and how he performs in the vertical and broad jumps.
Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State
Rank entering combine: No. 6 overall | No. 2 RB
Among the top four running backs, Cook is the best at stringing multiple cuts together and getting up the field in a hurry. He delivered in the straight-line speed department on Friday, too, running a 4.49 40. That's a really good time and it speaks to his game-breaking ability. Cook is also a very physical blocker in pass protection, and he showed off his strength by putting up 22 reps on the bench. That was tied for third most among all running backs this year. Cook came into the combine as an elite prospect, and he did nothing from a testing standpoint to hurt himself on Friday.
Alvin Kamara, RB, Tennessee
Rank entering combine: No. 30 overall | No. 3 RB
Kamara had the second-best overall workout of this group of four running backs. He has prototypical size at 5-foot-10 and 214 pounds, and while he didn't blaze the 40 (4.56), Kamara still posted a better-than-average time. He's going to be an interesting test case because there are a lot of games in which he had fewer than 10 carries, and he never had more than 18 rushing attempts in a game. Kamara interviewed very well from what I heard, he's very well-liked by his teammates, and he catches the ball cleanly. He has the skill set of a first-rounder. He's just so explosive, which showed up when he posted the best vertical jump (39.5 inches) and broad jump (10 feet, 11 inches) among all the running backs.
Mike Williams, WR, Clemson
Rank entering combine: No. 13 overall | No. 1 WR
Wide receivers did not work out on Friday, but Williams did announce that he will not run the 40-yard dash. Coming into the combine, the 40 was probably more important for Williams than any other player, given the questions about his top-end speed. Those questions aren't going away, but we'll get more clarity at Clemson's pro day on March 16. Here's the reality: At just over 6-foot-3½ and 218 pounds, if Williams runs 4.55 or better, he's totally fine. If that number creeps into the mid-4.6s, then it'll hurt his stock.
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Impressive.
Impressive.
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