2019 College Football Thread

[jterrell]

If they both win, then OU has the better resume and it’s not even close.

Utah is a far better football team.

 

[jterrell]

Clemson's all-around team looks so strong.
Really great job by Sweeny and his staff to round them into shape. They look nothing like they did earlier this year....kind of like last year.
The QB is back to being insanely good too.
Hard to measure given the easy schedule, but they look an awfully lot like the team that won it all last year

And yes, if UGa beats LSU, they are both in. A 12-1 LSU does not get left out.
The question is....what happens if Ohio State loses? Don't see how a 12-1 Ohio St gets left out.

Clemson's schedule is too soft to suggest they are even good much less great.

Did they wallop people after the one-point escape versus a 6 win UNC. Sure. But none of those teams were even .500 in conference play.

Clemson has been really good for a long time but there's no proof they are this year.

UGA isn't that good either so likely gets beat by 20 versus LSU but if they do win they deserve to go.
LSU and OSU look to be the most complete teams by far.

All that said at some point the committee will have to start crediting the Pac 12 and Big 12 with playing 10 P5 games.

 

[DFWJC]

Clemson's schedule is too soft to suggest they are even good much less great.

Did they wallop people after the one-point escape versus a 6 win UNC. Sure. But none of those teams were even .500 in conference play.

Clemson has been really good for a long time but there's no proof they are this year.

UGA isn't that good either so likely gets beat by 20 versus LSU but if they do win they deserve to go.
LSU and OSU look to be the most complete teams by far.

All that said at some point the committee will have to start crediting the Pac 12 and Big 12 with playing 10 P5 games.

I'll say it again.
Clemson is fantastic.
Ever since the UNC game, they have morphed into what they were supposed to be.
Even taking into account the weak schedule, they just look overwhelming.

But yes, LSU and OSU look real strong. I think Clemson's defense is better than both, but not sure who has the best squad overall.
Luckily, we have a playoff

 

[Ghost12]

Utah is a far better football team.

All you have is the eye test. OU has the better resume. Better resume trumps ridiculously subjective eye test every time. They don't even have a single victory right now over a currently ranked team. Pretty good to pass the eye test when you play lousy teams.

 

[Ghost12]

Clemson's schedule is too soft to suggest they are even good much less great.

Did they wallop people after the one-point escape versus a 6 win UNC. Sure. But none of those teams were even .500 in conference play.

LOL!! This from the guy in love with Utah!!

At least Clemson has a win over a team above .500 in conference. What's Utah's biggest victory this year? A win over AZ State with a 4-5 conference record? ROFL!!

 

[DFWJC]

All you have is the eye test. OU has the better resume. Better resume trumps ridiculously subjective eye test every time. They don't even have a single victory right now over a currently ranked team. Pretty good to pass the eye test when you play lousy teams.

Probably a balance of the two.
But yes, OU's resume is better. Even then, they only have one win over a currently top 25 team. Plus , unless KState pops into the top 25, they're loss was to a currently unranked team vs Utah's loss being to ranked USC.

I'm with you though; if OU beats Baylor and Utah beats Oregon, I think OU leapfrogs Utah unless the scores are real lopsided.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Here is my final 4

1. LSU - UGA has no WRs. LSU should easilly win this game
2. OSU
3. Clemson
4. OU _I think a win over Baylor will vault them over a weak pac 10 conference champ.

OSU-Clemson is going to be an amazing game pitting 2 Georgia QBs who grew up high school rivals and battled for the #1 overall HS prospect rating 2 years ago. Fields and Lawrence will battle again in the 2021 NFL draft for the #1 overall pick.

 

[DFWJC]

Here is my final 4

1. LSU - UGA has no WRs. LSU should easilly win this game
2. OSU
3. Clemson
4. OU _I think a win over Baylor will vault them over a weak pac 10 conference champ.

OSU-Clemson is going to be an amazing game pitting 2 Georgia QBs who grew up high school rivals and battled for the #1 overall HS prospect rating 2 years ago. Fields and Lawrence will battle again in the 2021 NFL draft for the #1 overall pick.

If Baylor beats OU, theres even a chance they leap the Pac 12 champ....certainly if it Oregon, but maybe even Utah.

But I agree with you Final 4
And also the QB discussion. I remember it well. Both were considered two of the come out in years. Too bad for UGa that Fields transferred, but hard to blame him.

 

[atlantacowboy]

If Baylor beats OU, theres even a chance they leap the Pac 12 champ....certainly if it Oregon, but maybe even Utah.

But I agree with you Final 4
And also the QB discussion. I remember it well. Both were considered two of the come out in years. Too bad for UGa that Fields transferred, but hard to blame him.

Yeah, UGA screwed up. They should have let him compete for the job. Fields can do so much more than Fromm whose not a bad QB, but he's going to be a career back-up in the NFL.

 

[DFWJC]

Yeah, UGA screwed up. They should have let him compete for the job. Fields can do so much more than Fromm whose not a bad QB, but he's going to be a career back-up in the NFL.

We have some big Fromm lovers in the Zone.

But I’m with you. I think with a fair competition, Fields would've eventually won the job.
He's just better

And has for Trevor Lawrence....well, I think he might be the best prospect in a decade or more.

 

[atlantacowboy]

We have some big Fromm lovers in the Zone.

But I’m with you. I think with a fair competition, Fields would've eventually won the job.
He's just better

And has for Trevor Lawrence....well, I think he might be the best prospect in a decade or more.

Agreed. I would tank next for him. You go 1-15 and then have Lawrence at QB for a decade. Its a better plan that overpaying a .500 team that can't beat anybody.

 

[DFWJC]

The latest CFP rankings just came out.
Here they are

1. Ohio State
2. LSU
3. Clemson
4. Georgia
5. Utah
6. Oklahoma
7. Baylor
8. Wisconsin
9. Florida
10. Penn St
11. Auburn
12. Alabama
13. Oregon
14. Michigan
15. Notre Dame
16. Iowa
17. Memphis
18. Minnesota
19. Boise St
20. Cincinnati
21. App State
22. USC
23. Virginia
24. Navy
25. Oklahoma St

 

[DFWJC]

Two guys were providing commentary on the College Football Playoff show
Their Final 4 predictions were

OSU, LSU, Clemson, OU
OSU, LSU, Clemson, Utah

One guy thinks Clemson wins it all and that this team over the last two months now is ven better than last years Champs. He also thought Utah was the most complete team currently outside the top 4

The other guy didn't pick a title winner, but picked Oregon to beat Utah and Oklahoma to beat Baylor...wirh OU getti gthe 4th slot.
He also though that if UGa upset LSU, they would both make the Final 4

 

[atlantacowboy]

Two guys were providing commentary on the College Football Playoff show
Their Final 4 predictions were

OSU, LSU, Clemson, OU
OSU, LSU, Clemson, Utah

One guy thinks Clemson wins it all and that this team over the last two months now is ven better than last years Champs. He also thought Utah was the most complete team currently outside the top 4

The other guy didn't pick a title winner, but picked Oregon to beat Utah and Oklahoma to beat Baylor...wirh OU getti gthe 4th slot.
He also though that if UGa upset LSU, they would both make the Final 4

Yeah, Utah with one guy (96th ranked draft prospect) in the top 100 NFL prospects is the most "complete" team outside the top 4. Heck, even Utah State has 2 top 100 prospects. They have literally beaten nobody and have no case to be in the playoff.

 

[DFWJC]

Yeah, Utah with one guy (96th ranked draft prospect) in the top 100 NFL prospects is the most "complete" team outside the top 4. Heck, even Utah State has 2 top 100 prospects. They have literally beaten nobody and have no case to be in the playoff.

Take it up with him.


I certainly have no special interest in Utah, or OU for that matter.
I do think listing the number of NFL prospects a team has is not a great way to measure an actual overall team.
But again, I do t care either way.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Take it up with him.


I certainly have no special interest in Utah, or OU for that matter.
I do think listing the number of NFL prospects a team has is not a great way to measure an actual overall team.
But again, I do t care either way.

Talent matters. Why do you think we see the same teams competing in the playoff every year. Those Alabama, Clemson, and OSU teams are loaded with NFL talent every year. LSU and UGA are loaded with NFL talent this year. Utah just doesn't have much.

If the goal is to get the 4 best teams, no way Utah should be in that discussion.

 

[jterrell]

LOL!! This from the guy in love with Utah!!

At least Clemson has a win over a team above .500 in conference. What's Utah's biggest victory this year? A win over AZ State with a 4-5 conference record? ROFL!!

LOL at the butt hurt fan boys on this site man.

Good lord....

This is the worst OU team in 4-5 seasons.
They haven't played well in over a month.
They lost to a middling KSU team(5-4 in conf) then barely escaped with wins the next 3 weeks winning those 3 games by a grand total of 8 points.
Name recognition is the only reason they have ANY shot at a slot.
I am seriously hopeful they don't get in because they'd just embarrass the Big 12.

Utah on the other hand over that 3 week period outscored their 3 opponents by 90 points. 90!!!
And those 4-5 P12 conf teams are going to Bowl games.

I have zero affiliation with Utah. But I do know football teams and who is playing well or not playing well.

And yes. Clemson is a huge unknown.
They are playing in the worst P5 conference this season. Their SOS ranks 67th. That is 14 spots below Utah.
No P5 NON ACC team ranks below them.
None.

No one is arguing should they GET IN.
With Clemson the discussion is can they win it all.
And it is impossible to say they can given they haven't played anyone with a pulse.

LSU and OSU are the best teams by far.

 

[jterrell]

Mo

Talent matters. Why do you think we see the same teams competing in the playoff every year. Those Alabama, Clemson, and OSU teams are loaded with NFL talent every year. LSU and UGA are loaded with NFL talent this year. Utah just doesn't have much.

If the goal is to get the 4 best teams, no way Utah should be in that discussion.

more big dumb jethro talk

if nfl talent decided who was good Alabama wouldn't have lost 2 games versus a schedule that should embarrass themselves and the SEC.
games are won by better teams not just ones who win the underwear Olympics.
ut and usc wouldn't be stuck in crapville if you could just talent your way out of it.

and fwiw, Utah will produce a handful of NFL talent off this squad.
Try reading Dane... at The Athletic ... titled:
all-22-tape-study-utahs-collection-of-defensive-nfl-prospects-rare-for-pac-12/

 

[Ghost12]

LOL at the butt hurt fan boys on this site man.

Good lord....

This is the worst OU team in 4-5 seasons.
They haven't played well in over a month.
They lost to a middling KSU team(5-4 in conf) then barely escaped with wins the next 3 weeks winning those 3 games by a grand total of 8 points.
Name recognition is the only reason they have ANY shot at a slot.
I am seriously hopeful they don't get in because they'd just embarrass the Big 12.

Utah on the other hand over that 3 week period outscored their 3 opponents by 90 points. 90!!!
And those 4-5 P12 conf teams are going to Bowl games.

It’s easy to look good when the best team you beat is 4-5 conference record Arizona State.

If they both win this weekend, OU has the better resume. The only reason Utah is ahead of OU in the first place is because OU’s loss was in their final game before the first playoff rankings were released.

You don’t really know much about college football. Go back and study up, son.

 

[uvaballa]

No one wants to play Clemson right now. They’ve taken over as the best program in college football.