2019 Potential FA QBs to Replace Dak

[khiladi]

He's had QB ratings of sub 85 for four straight years now.

You can't really argue at this point that he's a really good QB.

Again no running game and WRs.. again, what we are talking about is putting him on this team, with adequate blocking and a real, legit RG. This is about ‘right now’ I’m comparison to Dak and these other guys.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

If you dont think Dak is worth $20M on a 2nd contract, it says a lot about your football knowledge.

 

[WhizKid]

If you dont think Dak is worth $20M on a 2nd contract, it says a lot about you.

I mean $20m a year for Dak, given the increase in the salary cap, is a deal. That should allow us to do whatever we want signing our own guys and free agents. The problem is are we still trotting out the same boring and predictable scheme?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

With Zeke. The only qbs that won without a running game is Brady. He only did it because his defense was amazing and he dumps it off to slot guys to replace the running game. Later in his career, he had running games.

This has absolutely nothing to do with my post.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

So your manipulating stats..

This is the idiocy of people that rely wholly on stats. Flacco in the AFC plays in freezing cold conditions in the playoffs, whether it’s New England, Pittsburgh or even Baltimore, and hasn’t had a running game since Ray Rice, while Dak plays in a dome stadium and can’t win away from home and has the best RB in the league who faces more stacked boxes than any other RB. One throws the ball downfield and has arguably one of the greatest playoff runs in history as a SN QB carrying that squad on his back, while Dak is a joke, who can’t thrie downfield consistently to save his life.

The ‘offense’ that they changed to make it more Dak-friendly was the same offense that Flacco ran, with less help, and Dak set all sorts of records in futility, from being held scoreless for ten straight quarters to 4 INTs returned for TDs and so on.

Weeden basically had the same numbers as Dak over here without Zeke and being a checkdown Charlie.

No I'm not manipulating any stats at all.

I used his entiree playoff stats because you said he was a beast in the playoffs. Giving you all of his stats in the playoffs after you said he's a beast in the playoffs is not manipulating anything.

It just shows how little you know about what you post.

You also said Ravens havent had a rushing game the last few years to help Flacco. They're the #2 rushing attack this season and the #8 rishing attack last season.

You just say **** and hope it's right despite it not being right at all.

If youve watched Flacco at all the last five years you'd know he's garbage, you havent.

You just compared Dak to Weeden LLLMMFFFFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'm out. Dont ever give your input on QB play ever again hahahahahhahahahahahaha

 

[khiladi]

No I'm not manipulating any stats at all.

I used his entiree playoff stats because you said he was a beast in the playoffs. Giving you all of his stats in the playoffs after you said he's a beast in the playoffs is not manipulating anything.

It just shows how little you know about what you post.

You also said Ravens havent had a rushing game the last few years to help Flacco. They're the #2 rushing attack this season and the #8 rishing attack last season.

You just say **** and hope it's right despite it not being right at all.

If youve watched Flacco at all the last five years you'd know he's garbage, you havent.

You just compared Dak to Weeden LLLMMFFFFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'm out. Dont ever give your input on QB play ever again hahahahahhahahahahahaha

Of course you are.. your comparing playoff stats to regular season stats.. that’s the very essence of manipulation. Flacco carries a team on his back on the playoffs to a Sb and has arguably one of the top QB playoff performance of all time, while playing in cold weather stadiums in the playoffs. They even fired their OC mid-season that year.

They are now the number 2 rushing attack because their new starting QB is rushing over 20 times a game since he’s started the last five games, while he throws for under 60%.. you are even more clueless than I expected.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Of course you are.. your comparing playoff stats to regular season stats.. that’s the very essence of manipulation. Flacco carries a team on his back on the playoffs to a Sb and has arguably one of the top QB playoff performance of all time, while playing in cold weather stadiums in the playoffs. They even fired their OC mid-season that year.

They are now the number 2 rushing attack because their new starting QB is rushing over 20 times a game since he’s started the last five games, while he throws for under 60%.. you are even more clueless than I expected.

I didnt use Dak's playoff Rating, do you really want me to? It'll make you look even worse.

It's 103.2

No he didnt carry the team on his back to a super bowl. You have no idea what youre talking about

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

This is awesome. Then we could complain incessantly about the next guy! It doesn't matter.. you all will COMPLAIN, RANT, CRY... then Zeke would suck, coaching.. ugly cheerleaders etc. Sky always falls here.. everyday gloomy. Carry on...

 

[PelvusBrestley]

Beasley averages 44 catches a year for his career and people talk about him like he's Wes Welker in his prime. The Cowboys receiving corp is not better than any of those you mentioned, but overvaluing our own talent is a Cowboys fan staple.

Just because this offense doesn't utilize their slot guy like Welker did doesn't make a fair comparison. Cowboys receivers for the past couple decades barely break the 1,000 yard mark. Coulda shoulda wouldas apply here, but Welker in this offense wouldn't have near the numbers he had just as much Beasley would thrive with Brady.

I don't think anyone is saying he's Welker, however he is a LOT more valuable than most on this forum will acknowledge. The Cowboys could have taken Tarik Cohen or Tyreek Hill in the draft and I guarantee they don't get the production here they do elsewhere. We are a throwback ball control offense and have been for at least a decade.

 

[khiladi]

I didnt use Dak's playoff Rating, do you really want me to? It'll make you look even worse.

It's 103.2

No he didnt carry the team on his back to a super bowl. You have no idea what youre talking about

So you did manipulate stats.. Now your attempting to compare Dak’s one game in the playoffs to a SB winning QB, who averaged a 114 QB rating while throwing fit 285 yards per game with 11 TDS and 0 INTs in COLD WEATHER stadiums and has had multiple games in the playoffs with over a 100 plus rating and in fact multiple games this year..

And your latest proof is one that was a loss in a domed stadium against a banged up GB secondary allowing 400-500 yards a game going into the playoffs and started off throwing ducks and had his typical third quarter meltdown that was reflected all last year. A GB secondary that got blasted by the Falcons the very next game.

But let’s face it, you clearly showed yourself clueless when you said the Ravens were a rushing team this year, not knowing their QB has in his last five stats rushed over 20 times a game while only completing 50 percentile of his passes at like 150 yards a game..

 

[PelvusBrestley]

I mean $20m a year for Dak, given the increase in the salary cap, is a deal. That should allow us to do whatever we want signing our own guys and free agents. The problem is are we still trotting out the same boring and predictable scheme?

I would 'settle' for a 60 million guarantee on a contract I can get out of in 3 years. I don't want to see any Jerry funny business where we are paying this guy guaranteed money in year 4.

I only settle because I know Jerry is signing the kid pretty much no matter what........

 

[dfense]

Id be all in on Bridgewater. He's a talent.

I'd pass on big d%$& Nick. Too streaky

 

[the_h0wey]

Granted, the Cowboys organization loves Dak for some reason, so this discussion might be all-for-naught. But contrary to what the "we can't get anyone better than Dak right now" crowd says, there might be a few options, if the Cowboys wanted to explore them.

Here's a list of potential free agent QBs this offseason:

> Teddy Bridgewater -- catastrophic injury is completely behind him now, and he's only 26. Showed flashes in the 2018 preseason. There will probably be a big market for him.

> Nick Foles -- Slated to make $20 million next year, so the Eagles will have to let him go.

> Joe Flacco -- Looks pretty evident that the Ravens are ready to hand the reigns to Jackson. Doubt they'll keep Flacco as their backup

> Jameis Winston -- Pretty much a headcase, but he's 25 and would come relatively cheap.

> Derek Carr -- was playing at an MVP level 2 years ago before getting hurt. Gruden is cleaning house, so may Carr may be purged also.

> Ryan Tannehill -- He'll probably be retained by the Dolphins since they Osweiler is their only other legit QB with experience. But Tannehill has proven he can't lead the Dolphins anywhere, so they may cut bait.

> Josh McCown -- old but reliable. Would he be a good stop gap?

> Brock Osweiler -- has played better with the Dolphins than he did with the Texans or Browns. And he's still only 28.

> Tyrod Taylor -- he's a good leader and has had moderate levels of success. And he's only 29.

> Ryan Fitzpatrick -- Fitzmagic in Big D for a year or two?


Who would you be intrigued by? I'd take 4-5 of these guys over Dak right now.

I don't see how any of these QB's would be a better option. Not really even close

 

[The Natural]

If you dont think Dak is worth $20M on a 2nd contract, it says a lot about your football knowledge.

Let someone else pay him 20M

 

[cowboy_ron]

Might as well start a thread about potential GM's.......it has about the same probability of happening as Dak not being here next year.

 

[HungryLion]

I am fine with looking for a LONG TERM replacement for Dak.

But you people salivating over Joe freaking Flacco and Nick Foles is unbelievable.

 

[HungryLion]

So you did manipulate stats.. Now your attempting to compare Dak’s one game in the playoffs to a SB winning QB, who averaged a 114 QB rating while throwing fit 285 yards per game with 11 TDS and 0 INTs in COLD WEATHER stadiums and has had multiple games in the playoffs with over a 100 plus rating and in fact multiple games this year..

And your latest proof is one that was a loss in a domed stadium against a banged up GB secondary allowing 400-500 yards a game going into the playoffs and started off throwing ducks and had his typical third quarter meltdown that was reflected all last year. A GB secondary that got blasted by the Falcons the very next game.

But let’s face it, you clearly showed yourself clueless when you said the Ravens were a rushing team this year, not knowing their QB has in his last five stats rushed over 20 times a game while only completing 50 percentile of his passes at like 150 yards a game..

He didn’t manipulate stats at all. He just posted all his playoff stats. They are what they are. You’re the one trying to manipulate things by mentioning what stadiums he played in and defenses him and Dak went up against.

You hate Dak so much that you have fallen off the deep end.

Joe Flacco?

Joe Flacco did have one amazing run in the playoffs.
The rest of the time he has been garbage in both the playoffs and regular season. It’s not even debatable. His own team, in the city that he won that championship doesn’t even want him anymore. They drafted a QB with their first round pick and benched Flacco’s sorry butt this season.

But he is going to come here and lead this team to a super bowl?

Lunacy.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

He also hasn’t had a good team around him. They traded his 2 Nd best receiver. Then his best we got hurt. They never have a running game or defense. It’s foolish to only look at stats.
Brady won more than manning in the playoffs, but Brady’s defense wasn’t giving up 30 plus points like Manning’s. Watch the players not just the stats. Stanford is a good qb trapped in Det.

I completely agree with you. Guys accurate and isnt afraid to sling it. Can make every nfl throw. I never saw megatron out run his arm, I could be wrong but the guys has a cannon. With the offense we have and the defense on the other side Id seriously try to go for him pr Carr.

 

[percyhoward]

The Cowboys had almost 300 yards of total offense and 19 first downs... Those aren't "Shut-out" numbers. They've had issues in the red-zone all season. If you're telling me that Teddy Bridgewater or Joe Flacco is going to solve the red-zone problems, I'll say you're full of crap.

It's only the 2nd time in more than 60 years that a team with 270+ yards and 17+ first downs has been held scoreless -- without turning it over at least 3 times.

This decade, other teams with similar yardage, first down, and turnover totals are averaging 19 points per game.

It's all about the red zone.

 

[kskboys]

Granted, the Cowboys organization loves Dak for some reason, so this discussion might be all-for-naught. But contrary to what the "we can't get anyone better than Dak right now" crowd says, there might be a few options, if the Cowboys wanted to explore them.

Here's a list of potential free agent QBs this offseason:

> Teddy Bridgewater -- catastrophic injury is completely behind him now, and he's only 26. Showed flashes in the 2018 preseason. There will probably be a big market for him.

> Nick Foles -- Slated to make $20 million next year, so the Eagles will have to let him go.

> Joe Flacco -- Looks pretty evident that the Ravens are ready to hand the reigns to Jackson. Doubt they'll keep Flacco as their backup

> Jameis Winston -- Pretty much a headcase, but he's 25 and would come relatively cheap.

> Derek Carr -- was playing at an MVP level 2 years ago before getting hurt. Gruden is cleaning house, so may Carr may be purged also.

> Ryan Tannehill -- He'll probably be retained by the Dolphins since they Osweiler is their only other legit QB with experience. But Tannehill has proven he can't lead the Dolphins anywhere, so they may cut bait.

> Josh McCown -- old but reliable. Would he be a good stop gap?

> Brock Osweiler -- has played better with the Dolphins than he did with the Texans or Browns. And he's still only 28.

> Tyrod Taylor -- he's a good leader and has had moderate levels of success. And he's only 29.

> Ryan Fitzpatrick -- Fitzmagic in Big D for a year or two?


Who would you be intrigued by? I'd take 4-5 of these guys over Dak right now.

Only Carr might be better than that mess.

Rather go w/ Dak and White and draft pick.