2022 PFF rankings RB

[CalPolyTechnique]

I see very few people in here trying to prop up Zeke anymore. Most of his biggest fans know he is done.

StephentheCowboy and RonaldT24 are still true believers.

 

[Mr_437]

IM back and il defends the guy just because his career is coming to an end no need to bash the man and call him overrated. That so far from the truth..but hey have your hatefest for homegrown talent..

gets old

Right on time, glad you made it.

 

[Mr_437]

You think this somehow balances out the other mediocre stats?

Elliott is done as a legitimate back. He’s a backup now. A part timer. The sooner we accept that the better.

And he has the nerve to say ppl are cherry picking stats.

 

[blueblood70]

I stand corrected.

Answer me one question. When Pollard went down vs the 9ers did you know our run game was effectively done for the day? I did, and that's the moment I realized I could no longer justify keeping Zeke.

His carries have become wasted downs, far too often. He's no longer a difference maker, and I wouldn't want to retain him at a league minimum contract. It's not personal, but we can't waste downs with Zeke any further.

Then factor in the type of offense MM wants and I see a lot more Aaron Jones than I do Zeke Elliott. Give me Pollard and a rookie, or the Texas back in the draft. Time to move forward.

the OP attack was personal to zeke called him overaerated, HE IS NOT , point made for me..pllard while decent was struggling against the 9ers as well it was the OL and lack of run calls schemes being out physicaled up front. pollard also NOT physical enough. that OL struggles 2 straight years against the 9ers run and pass , if that not obvious, im sorry but reh fact they didn't even try and use Malik after pollard went down is on who. you Trying to blame jerry?? , pssst and pfft.. its was MOORE..hes gone next replace Mcgovern with better physical LG and hope steel comes back without a hitch. i posted numbers down he stretch another did well. have to question the coaching and line play.

IDC if they bring back either guy..get the OL fixed, scheme better run pays, in game pay calling needs improvement or we wont win against the better defenses in the playoffs. etc etc etc

 

[blueblood70]

Zeke has shown signs of going down hill since 2018. Jerry giving him that ridiculous contract is one of the worst moves he has made as the GM.

more lie 2020 when the OL was injured the backup oL inured no dak new HC and DC... right all onhim..2021 was rolling over 5 YPC pretty well tore a PCL sorry he played hurt, 2021 same thing had some really nice games before that hit on hes though and knee was pretty bad but he gave it his all, all the while that OL was always being shuffled due to injury and had some issues run blocking and play calls when was KM hired right 2019 just in time to prove zeke was on the decline.

sure hes overpaid and at the end now but please stop with since 18 he had solid 2019 year but i left soem facts up there for the last 3 seasons that are being ignored,

 

[blueblood70]

IDC if they bring back either back but after reading all these hate posts i hope dak and zeke pay 2 more full years just so you all just cry and whine but wont get your way.. this place is full of clueless troll fans who turn on homegrown players. dont have to be aholes about it just say you believe hes no longer worth the money and move on.. the hes overrated, washed never good, all lies.

 

[blueblood70]

Found on Twitter so can’t verify but thought y’all would enjoy.


And just because I enjoy data over say, conjecture/fandom, this article I’ve posted before shows at least performance-wise other than his rookie year he’s always been overrated (which is different than saying he wasn’t good)


https://www.bluechipscouting.com/nfl-articles-1/zr/analytics/zekeoverrated


Demarco Murray comes to mind as someone who did similar or more with the same or less (particularly organizational support, i.e. Jerry and Stephen, but none of the accolades imho.)

Just shows how unserious we are about winning. They got us still talking about the dez catch like that prevented a ring lol.

crying & whining ...

 

[Ranching]

The funniest are those few advocating we let Pollard go but keep Zeke.

I mean, the smart move is probably let both go but advocating keeping Elliott over Pollard?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I have my reservations with Pollard because I know what his injury is...I'd keep Zeke only if he took a Huge paycut....league minimumish, since cutting him is gonna cost us anyway.....draft an RB and let them both go is also fine by me.

 

[Killerinstinct]

This is just another cost of having Dak as your QB. He wants Zeke here so we keep him.

 

[CWR]

the OP attack was personal to zeke called him overaerated, HE IS NOT , point made for me..pllard while decent was struggling against the 9ers as well it was the OL and lack of run calls schemes being out physicaled up front. pollard also NOT physical enough. that OL struggles 2 straight years against the 9ers run and pass , if that not obvious, im sorry but reh fact they didn't even try and use Malik after pollard went down is on who. you Trying to blame jerry?? , pssst and pfft.. its was MOORE..hes gone next replace Mcgovern with better physical LG and hope steel comes back without a hitch. i posted numbers down he stretch another did well. have to question the coaching and line play.

IDC if they bring back either guy..get the OL fixed, scheme better run pays, in game pay calling needs improvement or we wont win against the better defenses in the playoffs. etc etc etc

Well I'm not speaking for the OP. That is my take. I said the same about Malik, but Dak got blown up on a pass rush the only play I saw him in. I dont believe coaches trusted him. My problem is we shouldn't need to put in another RB to get production. While it's not all on Zeke, he couldn't make it happen.

 

[Creeper]

more lie 2020 when the OL was injured the backup oL inured no dak new HC and DC... right all onhim..2021 was rolling over 5 YPC pretty well tore a PCL sorry he played hurt, 2021 same thing had some really nice games before that hit on hes though and knee was pretty bad but he gave it his all, all the while that OL was always being shuffled due to injury and had some issues run blocking and play calls when was KM hired right 2019 just in time to prove zeke was on the decline.

sure hes overpaid and at the end now but please stop with since 18 he had solid 2019 year but i left soem facts up there for the last 3 seasons that are being ignored,

Zeke's yards per carry by year:

2018 - 4.7
2019 - 4.5
2020- 4.0
2021 - 4.2
2022 - 3.8

You can throw out 2020 but his numbers have been declining since 2018. And, we all saw Zeke get slower since then as well. The point is, while he may have been effective in 2018 ad 2019, I stand by my statement that he was showing signs of declining since 2018 and Jones never should have given him that contract.

 

[DoctorChicken]

There’s people that still think the earth is flat. No amount of evidence will convince the Zeke Boyz that he’s washed.

Are there actually people here that don’t know Zeke is washed? I love the guy but can recognize he’s all but done.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Found on Twitter so can’t verify but thought y’all would enjoy.


And just because I enjoy data over say, conjecture/fandom, this article I’ve posted before shows at least performance-wise other than his rookie year he’s always been overrated (which is different than saying he wasn’t good)


https://www.bluechipscouting.com/nfl-articles-1/zr/analytics/zekeoverrated


Demarco Murray comes to mind as someone who did similar or more with the same or less (particularly organizational support, i.e. Jerry and Stephen, but none of the accolades imho.)

Just shows how unserious we are about winning. They got us still talking about the dez catch like that prevented a ring lol.

Yawn……game, set, match!!

Funniest part is the pass blocking.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Zeke's yards per carry by year:

2018 - 4.7
2019 - 4.5
2020- 4.0
2021 - 4.2
2022 - 3.8

You can throw out 2020 but his numbers have been declining since 2018. And, we all saw Zeke get slower since then as well. The point is, while he may have been effective in 2018 ad 2019, I stand by my statement that he was showing signs of declining since 2018 and Jones never should have given him that contract.

We all saw? Most didn’t see it at all.

There were very few guys 4 years ago talking about pollard being the better back. Maybe 3 guys on here saw it.

 

[WhizKid]

Found on Twitter so can’t verify but thought y’all would enjoy.


And just because I enjoy data over say, conjecture/fandom, this article I’ve posted before shows at least performance-wise other than his rookie year he’s always been overrated (which is different than saying he wasn’t good)


https://www.bluechipscouting.com/nfl-articles-1/zr/analytics/zekeoverrated


Demarco Murray comes to mind as someone who did similar or more with the same or less (particularly organizational support, i.e. Jerry and Stephen, but none of the accolades imho.)

Just shows how unserious we are about winning. They got us still talking about the dez catch like that prevented a ring lol.

Levitan always dropping nuggets.

 

[T-RO]

He has better numbers then Terell Davis in the first 7 years in the league..

Davis had a severe knee injury. TD was much better than Zeke over his first four seasons.

Are there actually people here that don’t know Zeke is washed? I love the guy but can recognize he’s all but done.

I've seen several posts from Zeke believers here just this week...

 

[T-RO]

#3 rushing tds
#1 first downs
#1 in turnovers with 0
NFL rankings. Tell the whole story not cherry picking stats

Your stats are incorrect.

-Zeke was 15th in rushing first downs (11th among RBs)
-Tied for fourth in rushing TDs

And counting stats aren't as meaningful as ratio stats (per play stats). Counting stats often more reflect how much opportunity a player is getting than performance. We know Zeke was getting carries near goal line.

Also of note: Pollard didn't have rushing fumble either.

Source:
https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-stats/category/rushing/2022/REG/all/rushingtouchdowns/DESC

 

[LatinMind]

Your stats are incorrect.

-Zeke was 15th in rushing first downs (11th among RBs)
-Tied for fourth in rushing TDs

And counting stats aren't as meaningful as ratio stats (per play stats). Counting stats often more reflect how much opportunity a player is getting than performance. We know Zeke was getting carries near goal line.

Also of note: Pollard didn't have rushing fumble either.

Source:
https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-stats/category/rushing/2022/REG/all/rushingtouchdowns/DESC

Well of course Elliot was getting the carries near the goalline, they tried with Pollard when Elliot was hurt, he could get it done. Don't you remember that?

They just compliment each other.

I see 2 sides to this Elliot dilemma, there's the media and explayers cowboy haters that have plenty to say. Then you have media guys who do the leg work, the players who are more about the game than the soundbites who think, ok he's sacrificed his body. He's not what he used to be. But he can still get you the touchdowns the first downs. Then you think of the price. You try to work something out because no matter what he's getting 11mil from you either way. So can you get him to play for 6mil? Is 6 mil worth 800 and 12 tds?

 

[T-RO]

pollard also NOT physical enough.

I agree that if you need a yard up the middle, Zeke might be preferred. But c'mon...

-Pollard yards after contact per carry: 2.6. Zeke: 1.5
-Pollard graded out better in pass protection than Zeke this year
-Pollard has played 15-16 games every season.

Zeke wasn't over-rated his first few years, but in last 3-4 seasons...he's way over-rated by a lot of people. Pollard has been way better. Yards-per-carry says it all.

 

[T-RO]

So can you get him to play for 6mil? Is 6 mil worth 800 and 12 tds?

There are a dozen RBs in the draft that are better than Zeke right now and would take that 800 yards and push it over 1,000 with the same number of carries. I wouldn't pay Zeke $1 million. Don't want him taking a roster spot.

As for the TDs...running two yards into the end zone after a long drive doesn't impress me so much.

Go watch video of Zeke in his rookie season. He was a completely different player. He's got nothing now.