2022 PFF rankings RB

[CowboyRoy]

Found on Twitter so can’t verify but thought y’all would enjoy.


And just because I enjoy data over say, conjecture/fandom, this article I’ve posted before shows at least performance-wise other than his rookie year he’s always been overrated (which is different than saying he wasn’t good)


https://www.bluechipscouting.com/nfl-articles-1/zr/analytics/zekeoverrated


Demarco Murray comes to mind as someone who did similar or more with the same or less (particularly organizational support, i.e. Jerry and Stephen, but none of the accolades imho.)

Just shows how unserious we are about winning. They got us still talking about the dez catch like that prevented a ring lol.

What would jazzy say about these rankings?

He would probably tell us that this proves how right he has been.

 

[CowboyRoy]

StephentheCowboy and RonaldT24 are still true believers.

Jazzycat still claiming he was right about zeke and pollard. Lol

 

[Zekeats]

There’s people that still think the earth is flat. No amount of evidence will convince the Zeke Boyz that he’s washed.

I don’t think there are any Zeke fans that could say he isn’t washed up. FYI it is flat and that was common knowledge 70 years ago till nasa started with its lies.

 

[LatinMind]

There are a dozen RBs in the draft that are better than Zeke right now and would take that 800 yards and push it over 1,000 with the same number of carries. I wouldn't pay Zeke $1 million. Don't want him taking a roster spot.

As for the TDs...running two yards into the end zone after a long drive doesn't impress me so much.

Go watch video of Zeke in his rookie season. He was a completely different player. He's got nothing now.

Of course he was a different player. He didn't have 7 yrs of being the NFL's only 3 down RB. Take that in for a second. There's literally not a RB in the NFL who played 3 down for 7yrs. Run the ball he's in, need a screen he was it, pass block he's still in there. What other rb has done that since 2016?

 

[T-RO]

Yards gained in Zeke's rushing touchdowns in 2022:
1
14
1
1
1
1
6
4
2
10
1
1


Nothing special. Mop up duty mostly.

 

[Sydla]

Well of course Elliot was getting the carries near the goalline, they tried with Pollard when Elliot was hurt, he could get it done. Don't you remember that?

They just compliment each other.

I see 2 sides to this Elliot dilemma, there's the media and explayers cowboy haters that have plenty to say. Then you have media guys who do the leg work, the players who are more about the game than the soundbites who think, ok he's sacrificed his body. He's not what he used to be. But he can still get you the touchdowns the first downs. Then you think of the price. You try to work something out because no matter what he's getting 11mil from you either way. So can you get him to play for 6mil? Is 6 mil worth 800 and 12 tds?

6 milllion base means he’s a 12 million or so cap hit.

That’s preposterous for what he is. Philosophically, I can’t behind that. I’d rather cut him and just be done with him than have to deal with him again next year.

 

[vlad]

he was never OVERRATED jeez

came into the league with rushing title , if not for suspension in 10 games in 17 he led the league at like 106 YPG mean another title was coming ,and bam 2018 anther rushing title and in 2019 was still good even though that began the transition..

He has better numbers then Terell Davis in the first 7 years in the league... last year limited snaps and 15 games near 900yards and 12 tds.. sure hes overpaid now but he earned that deal make no mistake he was everything they thought he would for the first 4 years.. injuries , OL changes, OC changes, and what not derailed his production but he still had games both last 2 years first half number before injuries were near 5YPC.. sorry man the Zeke and dak hate get old.

you do not get a career 8300 yards rushing 68 tds 4.4 YPC 2300 receiving yards and 12 tds by being overrated OMFG dudes are trolls

Overrated NOPE , overpaid NOW, yes

why dont you compare their college careers, and their first 4 years in the league..zeke was heads and tails better .. you wont cherry pick one year to make point. hes a Dallas Cowboy , deserves respect frit hat career not hate!!

OH want to debate Pollard also drop off last 6 games ZERO Tds , Last 4 games of the regular season on top of ZERO Tds, 3.8 YPC and 51 YPC no big impact plays we were used and had games under 2 YPC like say both games against Washington averaged ONE 1 YPC TB game 1 ,1.8 YPC against zekes 5, how about other games sprinkled in where he wasnt a factor at all. explain the more he was used he being to be slowed down, hes a complimentary back was in college , is now.


lets calm down on the zeke Pollard comps 2 different types of backs where one was a blue chip prospect and heavily used started from college through 2019 and is a far better back.. now sure hes used up but pullease , stop acting as if pollards the next Dorsett he not even the next zeke.

I like pollard but just stop...

We can agree to disagree I’m not taking about volume numbers behind a generational offensive line (abba i handstands his o-line at Ohio state was incredible), I’m taking things like years above expected type stuff, break away runs, etc. basically what the article i posted details.

But since you resorted to name calling I’m guessing you didn’t bother to read the article.

Very classy

 

[JohnsKey19]

People think we're trashing Zeke for stating the obvious. The guy had a great college career and a few very good NFL seasons including a great rookie season. Whether he retires today or continues his NFL career, he'll be remembered as a very good RB. But IMO it's time for this team to go in another direction.

Now that Pollard is likely staying, i'm sorry the team needs more from its 2nd RB than what Zeke can offer at this stage. And he doesn't fit as your typical 3rd RB since he offers nothing on STs.

Finding a young DeMarco Murray type in the draft to handle 8-10 carries/game would be perfect.

 

[Aviano90]

People think we're trashing Zeke for stating the obvious.

This right here. In 2016, Zeke was the best RB in the league. The Zeke debates started in 2017 when it was clear he put on some weight and lost a step from the prior year. The debates have morphed from losing a step as compared to himself and no longer being the best RB in the league, to not being top 5, to not being better than Pollard, to now becoming a washed up RB. Zeke defenders have making excuses and becoming upset while being wrong every step of the way.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

Until lately Zeke has been a good player, teammate and person. He is well liked on the team and has done alot for the Cowboys. Having said that, its time to cut him because he offers the team exactly nothing. Keeping him around would be because Jerry and Stephen like him and feel they owe him which is ignorant. Thats the way it works in Dallas though..not the NFL, just in Dallas.......Jerry pulls these tpyes of stunts and wonders why we are the laughing stock of the league..lol

 

[vlad]

We can agree to disagree I’m not taking about volume numbers behind a generational offensive line (abba i handstands his o-line at Ohio state was incredible), I’m taking things like years above expected type stuff, break away runs, etc. basically what the article i posted details.

But since you resorted to name calling I’m guessing you didn’t bother to read the article.

Very classy

My lord spell correct on apple gotten brutal. Abba = and, handstands = understand

lol but abba handstands sounds interesting

 

[blueblood70]

Zeke's yards per carry by year:

2018 - 4.7
2019 - 4.5
2020- 4.0
2021 - 4.2
2022 - 3.8

You can throw out 2020 but his numbers have been declining since 2018. And, we all saw Zeke get slower since then as well. The point is, while he may have been effective in 2018 ad 2019, I stand by my statement that he was showing signs of declining since 2018 and Jones never should have given him that contract.

so did Emmitt smith same type of YPC yearly and for his career, and?? next.. 2018 showing signs as the rushing champion LMAO and his 4.5 in 2019 and yards, top 5 that year total scrimmage etc etc this year... henrys last 2 seasons 4.3 & 4.4 declining sure that what you say but if you comp others not that bad..

i actually listed valid reasons for lower number but the 22 wearer here had stat line similar, only difference is playing on HOF team with HOF line coaches and what not plus they fed him 25-30 EVERY GAME without fail ..go check

ESmith comp and as you see not much of a difference At all besides lets see KM comes in changes the offense zekes no longer fed and volume back gets his 100 + with carries.

year 1 3.9, zeke 5.1 huh that sux according to the powers that be,
year 2 4.3 Zeke 4.1
year 3 4.6 Zeke 4.7
year 4 zeke 4.5, 22=5.3
year 5 zeke 4.0 , 22=4.0
year 6 zeke 4.2 22=4.7
year 7 same as Zeke 3.8 this year , 22=3.7
only 3 years of 4.6 4.7 and 5.3(that 1 yr over 5 like 21)

last 4 years as cowboy under 4
career 4.2
the reality is 22 was great when handed the rock 25+ times but hovered around 4 YPC his entire career..sorry he was also the highest paid rb most of his career, and held out twice..


if These forums/SM existed back then 22 would have been flamed for having little burst or long speed and for his low YPC averages.

yes inureikis to him and the OL have had his number drop since 2020 not beofre then,..,sorry stil wrong.

 

[blueblood70]

I agree that if you need a yard up the middle, Zeke might be preferred. But c'mon...

-Pollard yards after contact per carry: 2.6. Zeke: 1.5
-Pollard graded out better in pass protection than Zeke this year
-Pollard has played 15-16 games every season.

Zeke wasn't over-rated his first few years, but in last 3-4 seasons...he's way over-rated by a lot of people. Pollard has been way better. Yards-per-carry says it all.

Yards gained in Zeke's rushing touchdowns in 2022:
1
14
1
1
1
1
6
4
2
10
1
1


Nothing special. Mop up duty mostly.

ES22 did the same thing dude dont be delusional but we saw pollard struggle to do the same. Goal line d a big wall knowing runs coming is quite different the the yards to gain. Simple, zeke was in fact better then Pollard in all short yardage,

 

[blueblood70]

People think we're trashing Zeke for stating the obvious. The guy had a great college career and a few very good NFL seasons including a great rookie season. Whether he retires today or continues his NFL career, he'll be remembered as a very good RB. But IMO it's time for this team to go in another direction.

Now that Pollard is likely staying, i'm sorry the team needs more from its 2nd RB than what Zeke can offer at this stage. And he doesn't fit as your typical 3rd RB since he offers nothing on STs.

Finding a young DeMarco Murray type in the draft to handle 8-10 carries/game would be perfect.

ESmith comp and as you see not much of a difference At all besides lets see KM comes in changes the offense zekes no longer fed and volume back gets his 100 + with carries.

year 1 3.9, zeke 5.1 huh that sux according to the powers that be,
year 2 4.3 Zeke 4.1
year 3 4.6 Zeke 4.7
year 4 zeke 4.5, 22=5.3
year 5 zeke 4.0 , 22=4.0
year 6 zeke 4.2 22=4.7
year 7 same as Zeke 3.8 this year , 22=3.7
only 3 years of 4.6 4.7 and 5.3(that 1 yr over 5 like 21)

last 4 years as cowboy under 4
career 4.2
the reality is 22 was great when handed the rock 25+ times but hovered around 4 YPC his entire career..sorry he was also the highest paid rb most of his career, and held out twice..

 

[Sydla]

so did Emmitt smith same type of YPC yearly and for his career, and?? next.. 2018 showing signs as the rushing champion LMAO and his 4.5 in 2019 and yards, top 5 that year total scrimmage etc etc this year... henrys last 2 seasons 4.3 & 4.4 declining sure that what you say but if you comp others not that bad..

i actually listed valid reasons for lower number but the 22 wearer here had stat line similar, only difference is playing on HOF team with HOF line coaches and what not plus they fed him 25-30 EVERY GAME without fail ..go check

ESmith comp and as you see not much of a difference At all besides lets see KM comes in changes the offense zekes no longer fed and volume back gets his 100 + with carries.

year 1 3.9, zeke 5.1 huh that sux according to the powers that be,
year 2 4.3 Zeke 4.1
year 3 4.6 Zeke 4.7
year 4 zeke 4.5, 22=5.3
year 5 zeke 4.0 , 22=4.0
year 6 zeke 4.2 22=4.7
year 7 same as Zeke 3.8 this year , 22=3.7
only 3 years of 4.6 4.7 and 5.3(that 1 yr over 5 like 21)

last 4 years as cowboy under 4
career 4.2
the reality is 22 was great when handed the rock 25+ times but hovered around 4 YPC his entire career..sorry he was also the highest paid rb most of his career, and held out twice..


if These forums/SM existed back then 22 would have been flamed for having little burst or long speed and for his low YPC averages.

yes inureikis to him and the OL have had his number drop since 2020 not beofre then,..,sorry stil wrong.

When are people going to stop trying to compare RBs from different eras? This is like comparing QBs today to QBs from 30-40 years ago. The game is different, rules are set up now to be more favorable to the offense, etc.

 

[kumizi]

41st is honestly a lot higher than I thought he’d be.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

so did Emmitt smith same type of YPC yearly and for his career, and?? next.. 2018 showing signs as the rushing champion LMAO and his 4.5 in 2019 and yards, top 5 that year total scrimmage etc etc this year... henrys last 2 seasons 4.3 & 4.4 declining sure that what you say but if you comp others not that bad..

i actually listed valid reasons for lower number but the 22 wearer here had stat line similar, only difference is playing on HOF team with HOF line coaches and what not plus they fed him 25-30 EVERY GAME without fail ..go check

ESmith comp and as you see not much of a difference At all besides lets see KM comes in changes the offense zekes no longer fed and volume back gets his 100 + with carries.

year 1 3.9, zeke 5.1 huh that sux according to the powers that be,
year 2 4.3 Zeke 4.1
year 3 4.6 Zeke 4.7
year 4 zeke 4.5, 22=5.3
year 5 zeke 4.0 , 22=4.0
year 6 zeke 4.2 22=4.7
year 7 same as Zeke 3.8 this year , 22=3.7
only 3 years of 4.6 4.7 and 5.3(that 1 yr over 5 like 21)

last 4 years as cowboy under 4
career 4.2
the reality is 22 was great when handed the rock 25+ times but hovered around 4 YPC his entire career..sorry he was also the highest paid rb most of his career, and held out twice..


if These forums/SM existed back then 22 would have been flamed for having little burst or long speed and for his low YPC averages.

yes inureikis to him and the OL have had his number drop since 2020 not beofre then,..,sorry stil wrong.

So, we’re comparing Zeke to what another RB did 25 years ago? What’s next, if Dak keeps throwing INTs are we going bring up Y.A. Tittle’s passing stats?

 

[Redline360]

Everyone from fans to other GMs know zeke is washed. Had a phenomenal 2-3y career but has fallen off a cliff. Last two years Pollard has been the better back by miles.

His rushing TDs are skewed lately as they let him pick up the short yardage TD and first downs. If you want to cherry pick stats...When Zeke was out Pollard was just as good in short yardage. Someone posted on twitter about 3 weeks ago that half of zekes TDs is when Pollard got us within 2-3y of the goal line and they let zeke finish.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The funniest are those few advocating we let Pollard go but keep Zeke.

I mean, the smart move is probably let both go but advocating keeping Elliott over Pollard?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Im sure people advocating to keep Zeke is at a cheaper price than he is now. Everyone likes Pollard but understands the market may be too high. Thought this was common sense. I doubt in 2023 people think Zeke is better that’s just a fake narrative.