24th in the League on Yards after Catch

[Cydios]

It's both. Qb has to lead his receiver. Amari Cooper had great hands last year, but he was catching balls in his ears.

 

[NotForLong]

I totally agree! I watched these QBs like Lawrence and Jones hitting WRs in full stride crossing the field. I can't remember the last time Dak was picking apart a defense using short crossing routes and slants and skinny posts where the WR is on the move and he doesn't have to slow down to adjust to Daks pass. People say well Dak is much better than Lawrence and Jones but I disagree. His ability to make all the throws is limited. We saw Hebert lose but he put up one heck of a game without Mike Williams. That's like taking away Lamb. Lawrence made mistakes and the ball didn't bounce his way but he continued to over come his defense giving up 30 points and won the game for his team. That's true leadership. Jones is developing under that coaching staff and I really think the Giants are a threat to the Eagles. Dak is at the peak of his development and it's all about trying to overcome his nerves but his accuracy is all over the place and that is causing a lot of inconsistency. Jones stood in the pocket and took some nasty hits while delivering the ball. When has Dak stood tall and taken some hits to deliver the football. I'm really concerned Dak is going to lay an egg tonight and I'm already angry at him.

I feel you bro but I am not going into this game with this view I am gonna be an Optimistic Blind Homer . . . I have to I am excited

If it goes to hell in a handbasket and Dak does what Dak does then so be it

This will be his defining game and he needs a good playoff run for that matter . . . If He can carry the Boys to the Championship game and is Competitive in that game . . . I think we as fans could stomach him for the next 2 years

If he lays an egg then it is gonna be a long offseason and I believe he will lose more of his fan base

 

[Sydla]

Lamb had a big season, but his YAC ability was charged as about average for a player with the volume of touches he had:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nfl-receiver-rankings/

it was his ability to get open that put him apart

Then that should shift some of the blame more to the QB and OC. Lamb's strength coming out of college was his YAC ability. Almost all the scouting reports raved about his ability once the ball was in his hands.

If he's average to below average at YAC now, it could signal something bigger here.

 

[jsb357]

precision passes to running receivers = YAC

 

[Typhus]

QB . . . He is terrible at timing based throws like crossing routes and slants and prefers routes that have the WR come back to him. The WRs are getting blasted because He stares down his WRs which is why Safeties are intercepting all His Passes

Wrs each run a certain route and many times WRs are open but either Dak does not see them or refuse to even attempt this throws

This is the weakness in Daks game but sadly it is huge because this limitation allows the defense to contain him and His Wrs

Dak has to get over the DBs to gain some respect to open it up underneath for the short game to be successful and vice versa..
The entire field opens up when you can make those completions.
The problem for Dak is more complex than just Dak is the entire issue or the WRs are the issue.
If both are failing, then the entire offense shrinks. and defense stacking the box destroys the running game.
Stretching the field is vital, it must happen in order to advance post season.
We have entered the octagon now, best vs best.

 

[charron]

That's amazing (bad) considering we have Lamb

He is the only one to get yac. But still mostly on his crossing routes. Too often they favor routes that have the receivers stop in 1 spot and wait for the ball.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dak is innacurate with the ball and rarely ever hits guys in stride or throws to the correct shoulder. So, even if the ball is catchable, a lot of times the receiver can't do much after the catching the ball.

actually we were 31st in the league before Dak returned. so a lot of it is due to Rush. he had a 100 yard game against rams...that's ain't going to push you up the rankings.

 

[CrazyAg]

Dak throws too many passes where the receive must stop, reach behind, or go to ground to catch.

 

[shabazz]

And Tampa Bay is ranked at #3 in YAC………could be a long night for our defense if Demarcus and Micah can’t get to the GOAT.

 

[jazzcat22]

The scheme sucks, it has since Garrett installed it. Our WR's rarely get even 1 yard separation. Because as been posted, the route trees.

I think Dak can make some of those throws, but the WR needs to do his part as well.
However, Dak seems to hang onto the ball just a bit to long when they do have some separation.

Dak has regressed IMO. We will see tonight if he can overcome himself. Then move forward from there.
I think Dak and the run game and these players will benefit from a new OC. Or else expect the same stuff for the next 4 years. As Jerry will extend Dak this off season regardless.

 

[jblaze2004]

Because our wr's other than Lamb are bad lol. Noah Brown and Schultz I notice always go to the ground a lot when they don't really need to. Its like they feel they are in the middle of the field so they go down. Gallup this year can catch but his guy is stuck to him like glue. His best attribute is catching the ball in traffic right now. Maybe next year he will regain some speed and cutting ability.


Our receiving core is worst than it was last year.
We traded Coop (who was our number 1), lost Cedric Wilson who was a decent number 3/4 wr.

What did we do to replace them? Drafted Tolbert who struggled big time. Got Washington in the offseason who was a bust and is already cut.

Maybe Ty Hilton can show something but he had some terrible drops last week. Lets hope he brings his hands this game. And now we have Noah Brown playing in very key moments. Sometimes he is the second WR out there.

I was hoping Tolbert showed something this year but that didn't happen sadly.

 

[Creeper]

I think the Cowboys run a lot of routes where the receivers runs, cuts, turns around and stops to catch the ball. Plus, if you don't get a lot of separation it is hard to get YAC. Plus, We don't see a lot of receivers getting hit in stride. Also, we are terrible running screens. Every time we run one we take a loss or get 0 yards. I think it is a scheme problem, but the scheme could be designed to the strengths of the QB, or the weaknesses.

 

[blueblood70]

Because our wr's other than Lamb are bad lol. Noah Brown and Schultz I notice always go to the ground a lot when they don't really need to. Its like they feel they are in the middle of the field so they go down. Gallup this year can catch but his guy is stuck to him like glue. His best attribute is catching the ball in traffic right now. Maybe next year he will regain some speed and cutting ability.


Our receiving core is worst than it was last year.
We traded Coop (who was our number 1), lost Cedric Wilson who was a decent number 3/4 wr.

What did we do to replace them? Drafted Tolbert who struggled big time. Got Washington in the offseason who was a bust and is already cut.

Maybe Ty Hilton can show something but he had some terrible drops last week. Lets hope he brings his hands this game. And now we have Noah Brown playing in very key moments. Sometimes he is the second WR out there.

I was hoping Tolbert showed something this year but that didn't happen sadly.

its 23 maybe he still can

new year LOL

 

[DFWJC]

Pretty much the title, after watching some wildcard games this weekend i noticed how many small-intermediate catches went for big chunks. So i went and checked and our top rated offense is near the bottom in that.
https://scores.nbcsports.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=231

Is this the Receivers fault, routes, scheme, qb? Ive been noticing almost every game Dak has to make tight window throws or has to checkdown (and then the guy gets immediately blasted) while i constantly see the opposing team have a wide open receiver. Whats interesting is that Pollard seems to be our YAC guy and yet i barely see him get played as a receiver.

Thoughts?

WR, QB, and scheme related.

"Tight windows"
"Separation"
"YAC"

It Is for sure related to WRs, of course, but also related to ball placement and timing.
The exact same player if thrown to in stride and at the right time will have a larger window, more separation, and more YAC.


Notice that Mahomes lost Tyreek Hill and still leads the league in YAC with a very average (at best) group of WRs
That's both Mahomes and scheme.

Notice the Bills throw the long ball lot and their YAC is not all that high

But I also notice that those bottom 5 teams all have pretty poor WR groups

 

[DCreppinBoysfan]

Who do the Giants have . . . come on already . . It is Dak's fault

Cowboys had a lot of YAC against Minny also. There’s a common denomination there. I see it. I know you do too

 

[CowboyFrog]

I totally agree! I watched these QBs like Lawrence and Jones hitting WRs in full stride crossing the field. I can't remember the last time Dak was picking apart a defense using short crossing routes and slants and skinny posts where the WR is on the move and he doesn't have to slow down to adjust to Daks pass. People say well Dak is much better than Lawrence and Jones but I disagree. His ability to make all the throws is limited. We saw Hebert lose but he put up one heck of a game without Mike Williams. That's like taking away Lamb. Lawrence made mistakes and the ball didn't bounce his way but he continued to over come his defense giving up 30 points and won the game for his team. That's true leadership. Jones is developing under that coaching staff and I really think the Giants are a threat to the Eagles. Dak is at the peak of his development and it's all about trying to overcome his nerves but his accuracy is all over the place and that is causing a lot of inconsistency. Jones stood in the pocket and took some nasty hits while delivering the ball. When has Dak stood tall and taken some hits to deliver the football. I'm really concerned Dak is going to lay an egg tonight and I'm already angry at him.

Shocking take ..lol I guess just typing "You know where i stand" would've been to easy.

 

[Havic]

QB imo. He doesnt lead WR's well enough, not to mention Schultz is a 40 year old Witten out there with zero YAC

 

[JD_KaPow]

QB . . . He is terrible at timing based throws like crossing routes and slants and prefers routes that have the WR come back to him. The WRs are getting blasted because He stares down his WRs which is why Safeties are intercepting all His Passes

Wrs each run a certain route and many times WRs are open but either Dak does not see them or refuse to even attempt this throws

This is the weakness in Daks game but sadly it is huge because this limitation allows the defense to contain him and His Wrs

Very silly. The Cowboys with Dak have been near the top of the league in prior years.

Outside of Lamb, our receivers are among the worst in the league in gaining separation. That's the first place to look.

 

[Cowboy_svt]

WR, QB, and scheme related.

"Tight windows"
"Separation"
"YAC"

It Is for sure related to WRs, of course, but also related to ball placement and timing.
The exact same player if thrown to in stride and at the right time will have a larger window, more separation, and more YAC.


Notice that Mahomes lost Tyreek Hill and still leads the league in YAC with a very average (at best) group of WRs
That's both Mahomes and scheme.

Notice the Bills throw the long ball lot and their YAC is not all that high

But I also notice that those bottom 5 teams all have pretty poor WR groups

Andy Reid is really good at making the best of what he has, i hated us facing him when he was with Philly.

Yeah its a combination of things, just was surprised we were so low this year, but do wonder why we dont see more interesting routes/mismatches more from Kellen. On one hand we still have a lethal offense, but with Dak not at his sharpest, you think any help he can get would be extremely beneficial. Just my casual observation.

 

[Wangchung83]

I think it’s pretty common knowledge our WR corp is awful.

Near the bottom of the league in deep ration per target and YAC.

Lol, it’s the qb for crying out loud. He doesn’t hit in stride, doesn’t anticipate where routes will be and if he dues he throws interceptions. Ceedee had one of highest yac in college with three QBs in nfl. Only thing that changed, Dak