24th in the League on Yards after Catch

[Hennessy_King]

I read something a few weeks ago indicating Tolbert was the first WR we drafted in like 20 years with a sub 4.5 combine 40.

Why…

Because our scouts are dumb

And so is jerry and his son

 

[TheHerd]

I put most of it on Dak and I like him.

Even the simplest dump off to the RB - the RB many times has to turn back for the ball and contort his body to make a catch. THEN get set - that allows the D to be on him like flys on a turd. Crossing routes turn into sliding catches. But also all the damn 3 yard outs to Schutlz and curl routes don't do us any favors.

While I agree with the direction of this post, we run a much smaller percentage of the type of plays which yield YAC. We rarely go across the field and target receivers on the run at LB depth. Watch the vast majority of plays with big YAC and that's the formula. Most comeback drives start with a few short dump offs that go about 3-5 yards in the air and net 10-15+ yards because the D is backing up and the receivers catch the ball on the run - not coming back on a curl or going out of bounds.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Dak is innacurate with the ball and rarely ever hits guys in stride or throws to the correct shoulder. So, even if the ball is catchable, a lot of times the receiver can't do much after the catching the ball.

 

[Ken]

Because he is Ceedee any other questions

Ok, so it isn't Dak it is who he is throwing to.

Got it.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

The Cowboys run a Coryell-influenced system. It’s a lot comebacks, curls, and mid- to long-range passes.

 

[cnuball21]

Because our scouts are dumb

And so is jerry and his son

Some positions man, makes no sense.

 

[Runwildboys]

Ok, so it isn't Dak it is who he is throwing to.

Got it.

Or maybe CeeDee is really good at juking guys after he stops to catch the ball. How many times have we seen him run a comeback route, catch the ball, then without looking, circle around to one side to avoid getting smacked down, and then run for more yardage?... Quite a few times, to answer my own question.

I think the biggest factor is the routes the receivers are running.

 

[Ken]

Or maybe CeeDee is really good at juking guys after he stops to catch the ball. How many times have we seen him run a comeback route, catch the ball, then without looking, circle around to one side to avoid getting smacked down, and then run for more yardage?... Quite a few times, to answer my own question.

I think the biggest factor is the routes the receivers are running.

Again, we need more guys who run after catch better instead of fighting themselves to catch the ball and fall down.

 

[Sydla]

It's a combo of things. One, there are some limitations at WR. People foolishly thought Gallup would just step back on the field and be the Gallup before his injury. The other aspect is the scheme for sure. Thirdly, Dak just hasn't been all that sharp this year. Too inconsistent.

Wrap all that up and what you get is middling WR stats other than Lamb.

 

[Sydla]

Again, we need more guys who run after catch better instead of fighting themselves to catch the ball and fall down.

I assume you aren't saying Lamb isn't one of those guys. His strength is his ability after the catch.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Sighhhh……and people wonder why I have wanted this offense gone since Romo. It has nothing to do with Moore the person….it’s the offense. Can’t have YAC when you are coming back to the football all the time. Anyone gander at NY’s crossing routes yesterday? How about Barclay in the flat? Wide open folks…..

I love this guy lol it's so simple!!!!

 

[nightrain]

I'll take production from the full body of work over any individual stat.

 

[Ken]

I assume you aren't saying Lamb isn't one of those guys. His strength is his ability after the catch.

Ya, i'm not saying Ceedee isn't good at it. I'm saying almost everyone else is bad at it.

I think Pollard and Ferguson are probably our other good ones at it. Gallup and Brown are terrible and Schultz has been bad at it this year with his knee. He was much better last year. TY can be one of our better ones if we use him more.

 

[DenCWBY]

It's a mixture of all the factors. Comeback routes are not designed for YAC. WR speed is not that great. Lastly Dak is not accurate at throwing receivers open and often throws late coming out of their breaks.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

We have a QB who is pretty inaccurate with ball placement. For there to be YAC balls generally need to be placed at a spot where the receiver isn't adjusting too much to just catch the damn thing.

 

[Xeven]

This team. For years has stopped what works to try new things. Its a big reason why they keep failing. They lined up Pollard and had him run a route deep once this year. It went for a 60 yard TD. Havent done it since. Its like they put things on tape for the other team to think about, but never do it again. Its odd

They should do the good stuff till they stop us. Make the other team stop you before moving on.
Instead Moore doubles down on failure.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

That's amazing (bad) considering we have Lamb

Lamb had a big season, but his YAC ability was charged as about average for a player with the volume of touches he had:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nfl-receiver-rankings/

it was his ability to get open that put him apart

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

We don’t have those type of weapon besides Ceedee and Pollard. Zeke ain’t making anybody miss and neither does Schultz. Brown isn’t that type of wr. And the corners are quickest than Gallup. Maybe next year when we get OBJ things will be different because we losing Pollard

Yes, let's sign an injury prone head case to fix it.

 

[NotForLong]

Ok, so it isn't Dak it is who he is throwing to.

Got it.

Yup

 

[Hadenough]

QB . . . He is terrible at timing based throws like crossing routes and slants and prefers routes that have the WR come back to him. The WRs are getting blasted because He stares down his WRs which is why Safeties are intercepting all His Passes

Wrs each run a certain route and many times WRs are open but either Dak does not see them or refuse to even attempt this throws

This is the weakness in Daks game but sadly it is huge because this limitation allows the defense to contain him and His Wrs

I totally agree! I watched these QBs like Lawrence and Jones hitting WRs in full stride crossing the field. I can't remember the last time Dak was picking apart a defense using short crossing routes and slants and skinny posts where the WR is on the move and he doesn't have to slow down to adjust to Daks pass. People say well Dak is much better than Lawrence and Jones but I disagree. His ability to make all the throws is limited. We saw Hebert lose but he put up one heck of a game without Mike Williams. That's like taking away Lamb. Lawrence made mistakes and the ball didn't bounce his way but he continued to over come his defense giving up 30 points and won the game for his team. That's true leadership. Jones is developing under that coaching staff and I really think the Giants are a threat to the Eagles. Dak is at the peak of his development and it's all about trying to overcome his nerves but his accuracy is all over the place and that is causing a lot of inconsistency. Jones stood in the pocket and took some nasty hits while delivering the ball. When has Dak stood tall and taken some hits to deliver the football. I'm really concerned Dak is going to lay an egg tonight and I'm already angry at him.