3:41 Bledsoe in - Why?

You build on the situation. If Parcells had done this all along, Romo would have quite a bit of experience being built up.

Why not throw one or two passes? After several times of trash time, he could throw 20 passes. 20 passes doesn't help towards getting a QB ready?

And this has nothing to do with Romo's sac. Someone a homophobe or something? Why else would you turn a perfectly good football discussion into a homo reference.

BTW I would stay with Bledsoe until it's real obvious he can't do it or playoff hopes are mathematically out. Still, QBs lasting all season is still rare nowadays and we should try to groom the backup any opportunity we can.
 
The Duke said:
So I guess that in the middle of a playoff game, a guy that has never even handed the ball off during a game is supposed to walk into the game and have ice in his veins and play his best because he is not human and gets paid.

Not everyone is a bedwetter.

You assume practice and preseason means nothing.

Where do you think these guys learned the ropes.

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Or if you prefer you can just throw a QB to the wolves like Carr, Harrington, Akili, Leaf, Shuler..............................
 
BlueStar22 said:
All he was doing was handing off to JJ and MB3. You want Romo to come in and do that?
You have to start somewhere. I agree Romo could have been put in easily. Does that could as quality playing time? No. At least he could take some real NFL snaps from under center.
 
The Duke said:
Why not throw one or two passes?

I don't know if you missed the part where throwing it is idiotic.....but.....

Throwing it in that situation, is idiotic.
 
Dale said:
So......Romo coming in and handing off, say, 7 times, counts as valuable experience?

Sorry, but please.

Yes, see Henson vs Ravens in 30-10 blow with Ravens in milktoast defense.
 
big dog cowboy said:
You have to start somewhere. I agree Romo could have been put in easily. Does that could as quality playing time? No. At least he could take some real NFL snaps from under center.
he got valuable playing time in preseason. Started the whole freaking game in the first one.
 
davidyee said:
Bledsoe was in to manage "garbage time" and not allow it to turn into a disaster.

Also coaches tend to allow starting QBs to finish off important games they have led to wins as a way of thanking and showing confidence in them.

A pass? Why not? Because the point of the game is not to give up the possession of the ball. When you are up by three scores and 3:45 you don't do foolish things like throw the ball.

If Dallas had a coach that would do something as ludicrous as throw the ball everyone including the other assistant coaches and owner would wonder what kind of space cadet is this guy that he's willing to air it out in garbage time of a game we are winning?

Last, it's called class. You don't rub the other team's nose in it.

Class is pulling your starters and let the backups play against their starters.

I think letting backups play in garbage time is when to help groom them and throwing under those conditions is clearly not rubbing their nose in. If backups are successful under those conditions against starters, they shouldn't complain. Besides, it's not like your going to throw bombs, just dinks and outs.

And if you think its too risky, come on, honestly, it is a very minimal risk. Under these speciific situations up more than 3 scores, it would take 2 on side kicks and 3 bombs to pull it out.
 
superpunk said:
I don't know if you missed the part where throwing it is idiotic.....but.....

Throwing it in that situation, is idiotic.

Well the great Superpunk has spoken...it must be idotic.

Is it too hard to have a discussion where people give a reason then the other person replies with a reason instead of constant name calling or "idiotic" or "oh that's just stupid." Come on guys...showing your IQ?
 
The Duke said:
Class is pulling your starters and let the backups play against their starters.

I think letting backups play in garbage time is when to help groom them and throwing under those conditions is clearly not rubbing their nosing in. If backups are successful under those conditions aginst starters, they shouldn't complain. Besides, it's not like your going to throw bombs, just dinks and outs.

And if you think its too ricky, come on, honestly, it is a very minimal risk. Under these speciific situations up more than 3 scores, it would take 2 on side kicks and 3 bombs to pull it out.

It serves no purpose.

*** did we even bother giving him all that time in the preseason, agaisnt starters, for, I wonder? When we could have been giving him all this valuable handoff experience in real games...
 
The Duke said:
The game is completely in hand with 3:41 left, 27-10, and Bledsoe is still in the game.

Please give me the slightest bit of reason why the other backups are in, all running plays, and Blesoe is still in the game and Romo can't sniff the field?

Explain how he is "getting Romo ready" when he is not even trusted to get trash time?

Romo has kneeled down for 1-2 plays and that's it. Let the guy pick up 3:41 of trash time. He should be getting this type of time for the past 3 years and by now have 100 plays under his belt. He could throw some passes too.

Need I mention the last 2 years and last year's end of the Commanders, Rams and other games. No matter how far outa reach the game is BP sticks with Vinny and Bledsoe.


Just imagine for a second that late in the season, we are close or in the playoffs and Romo goes in for an injured Bledsoe. John Madden starts immediately talking about Romo "never having thrown an NFL pass before."

Thank you Parcells for making us competitive again but man you are so frustrating when it comes to QBs.

PS Bledsoe is still holding this offense back. Just look at the underthrown deep pass to TG and luckily holding call on the D. There were plenty of others too.

Very few backup QB's come into the game unless you are leading by 4-5 TD's. Why are you so anti-Bledsoe.............the 'boys' dropped 8 passes in the 1st Half alone! I thought he had a very nice game......not fantastic but very nice. Another reason he didn't come out...........did you watch the Gents and Eaglets earlier. You didn't see McNabb come out with a comfortable lead (after watching the Eagle's collapse maybe he should have)!:confused:
 
The Duke said:
Well the great Superpunk has spoken...it must be idotic.

Is it too hard to have a discussion where people give a reason then the other person replies with a reason instead of constant name calling or "idiotic" or "oh that's just stupid." Come on guys...showing your IQ?

It is what it is.

There is no reason to. You're not listening to reason, so I had to flat out tell you the idea was merit-less. But continue with your "Romo would have benefitted from handing off, or throwing one pass" crusade. :rolleyes:
 
superpunk said:
It is what it is.

There is no reason to. You're not listening to reason, so I had to flat out tell you the idea was merit-less. But continue with your "Romo would have benefitted from handing off, or throwing one pass" crusade. :rolleyes:

So it is merit-less. Then you have to agree that Romo is supposed to have ice in his viens when he steps on the field for the first time in a real game in the middle of a playoff game? Right. Because that is exactly what you are saying.
 
The Duke said:
So it is merit-less. Then you have to agree that Romo is supposed to have ice in his viens when he steps on the field for the first time in a real game in the middle of a playoff game? Right. Because that is exactly what you are saying.

And you're saying you believe handing the ball off, during the last few minutes of a game that is over, is going to prepare him better than almost three whole games of preseason action.

Because that is exactly what you are saying.

And it doesn't make any more sense when you say it.
 
The Duke said:
Class is pulling your starters and let the backups play against their starters.

I think letting backups play in garbage time is when to help groom them and throwing under those conditions is clearly not rubbing their nosing in. If backups are successful under those conditions aginst starters, they shouldn't complain. Besides, it's not like your going to throw bombs, just dinks and outs.

And if you think its too ricky, come on, honestly, it is a very minimal risk. Under these speciific situations up more than 3 scores, it would take 2 on side kicks and 3 bombs to pull it out.

...from Pop Warner to NFL is to leave your starters in to the very end and have them play conservative football to run out the time and get both teams off the field without any further injuries.

It is respect for your opponent so you don't embarass them by showing them up on the field that they are not good enough to play with your first team so you bring out the second team.

Next putting the ball up in the air means you are willing to take low percentage plays against their team. That in essence means you have very little respect for them.

Garbage time is garbage time and you leave your best experienced players out there and talk to the other team and let them know your intention is to get them and your team off the field as soon as possible.

For the losing team they have to show to themselves and their fans that they are willing to fight to the end. That's why they put the ball up and run "no huddle" even though the game is out of hand.

Both are clear cut "professional" choices. One is respect and the other is dignity. Both sides are needed to play sports with class.
 
superpunk said:
And you're saying you believe handing the ball off, during the last few minutes of a game that is over, is going to prepare him better than almost three whole games of preseason action.

Because that is exactly what you are saying.

And it doesn't make any more sense when you say it.

So dodge the issue. Bring up something else not being addressed, good one.

Of course he needs preseason action. Nobody is debating that. It is better because you run regular plays with the defense fully trying.

That in no way addresses why you can't do both.
 
The Duke said:
So dodge the issue. Bring up something else not being addressed, good one.

Of course he needs preseason action. Nobody is debating that. It is better because you run regular plays with the defense fully trying.

That in no way addresses why you can't do both.
So you believe, that Romo would gain invaluable game experience handing the ball off at the end of that game? You believe this is going to prepare him for a playoff game?

What is provided in the late-game handoff session, that Romo could not get in practice, or could not feel in the preseason? What good will it do? So Madden can't say "Romo has never thrown an NFL pass"?

Give me a break with this stupid nit-picking. Putting Romo in to hand off three times serves no purpose. No purpose. No purpose.

I can't put it much clearer. So I won't try. It's a stupid idea. Throwing in that situation would be idiotic, and we would scream for Parcells' head if he attempted it. Find something else to whine about. This issue isn't it. Night.
 
davidyee said:
...from Pop Warner to NFL is to leave your starters in to the very end and have them play conservative football to run out the time and get both teams off the field without any further injuries.

It is respect for your opponent so you don't embarass them by showing them up on the field that they are not good enough to play with your first team so you bring out the second team.

Next putting the ball up in the air means you are willing to take low percentage plays against their team. That in essence means you have very little respect for them.

Garbage time is garbage time and you leave your best experienced players out there and talk to the other team and let them know your intention is to get them and your team off the field as soon as possible.

For the losing team they have to show to themselves and their fans that they are willing to fight to the end. That's why they put the ball up and run "no huddle" even though the game is out of hand.

Both are clear cut "professional" choices. One is respect and the other is dignity. Both sides are needed to play sports with class.

So who made you king of postmodernism and made your definition of respect during football games the only right way?

Starters throwing during trash time is disrespect not backups versus starters.

That is really sad that you are the one that endorses the starters staying in until the end. So if you were a coach, how do you respond to the dads and moms that show up to your office the next day after a High school or worse "Pop Warner" game and explain to them why little Johnny couldn't play even a down on a meaningless running play to kill the clock?

"Umm well Mister and Misses Jones, your child never played even one down ever in 7 years on the football team because he got to play in the exhibition game for one, and besides I was being classy and respectful by having my starters play every down."

If that doesn't sound wrong to you then there is obviously no reason for me to continue this discussion.
 
superpunk said:
So you believe, that Romo would gain invaluable game experience handing the ball off at the end of that game? You believe this is going to prepare him for a playoff game?

What is provided in the late-game handoff session, that Romo could not get in practice, or could not feel in the preseason? What good will it do? So Madden can't say "Romo has never thrown an NFL pass"?

Give me a break with this stupid nit-picking. Putting Romo in to hand off three times serves no purpose. No purpose. No purpose.

I can't put it much clearer. So I won't try. It's a stupid idea. Throwing in that situation would be idiotic, and we would scream for Parcells' head if he attempted it. Find something else to whine about. This issue isn't it. Night.

Your the only one screaming...I was more kinda like suggesting it as a good idea.

And yes, it does help Romo. Have you ever played football? How about beyond high school? Playing in during trash time for someone who has never step into a real game gets your heart pumping pretty good even if it is to just hand off. I know I 've been there and talked with plenty that have also about these "idiotic" meaningless moments for none starters.

It helps get him comfortable, calm his feelings, know what to expect later even if just a little. If done alot more consistently it could really add up. One time only and no it doesn't do much but still helps a little. Practice just isn't going to cut it getting Romo ready. It's just prudent to prepare for the worst and take advantage of these meaningless moments and make them meaningful.
 
The Duke said:
So dodge the issue. Bring up something else not being addressed, good one.

Of course he needs preseason action. Nobody is debating that. It is better because you run regular plays with the defense fully trying.

That in no way addresses why you can't do both.

...put Romo on the scout team and let him go live with your own defence.

Let him get his garbage time in practice and not at the expense of a division rival who has just been beaten.

YOu show no class, you get no class in the end. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the league is no place for letting 2nd string QB get practice in garbage time.
 
do you guys not understand that it's Bledsoe's decision, and only his, if Romo is going to come into the game in his stead or not? BP will ask him everytime, and everytime Bledsoe is gonna say, "no thanks coach, but I think I'll stay in, this is my team", the way it should be
 

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