Drafted by Cowboys 3rd round Pick 73 Cowboys take Cooper Beebe

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this whole arm length thing is so exaggerated. Really thinking his arms are so short he cannot snap the ball is beyond dumb. Even Costa COULD snap the ball and his arms were a LOT shorter
What was his arm length? I can’t find anything on Costa online. Hard to believe his arms were ‘A LOT’ shorter
 

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Based on Turpin delivering on offense when he got touches last year, run or catch.
Look at his stats, particularly Success%. Good things happened when we gave Turpin the ball.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TurpKa00.htm#all_rushing_and_receiving

I have hopes for Deuce if they develop him as a receiver. But as a tiny RB, he was just a bust last year.
So what you posted about Turpin proves Deuce is cooked??? Wow. Well, ok if you say so. That's connecting some serious dots to get where you want to go.

Deuce wasn't a bust last year. Not even close. I'm not sure what you expected out of a 6th rounder but the fact he made the 53 is pretty remarkable. The Cowboys had no scheme or plans for him. Literally no package at all. That's why he didn't get on the field much and had limited touches. Considering the lead the Cowboys had in most of their games it's obvious they mismanaged Deuce. Big Mike failed him.
 

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What was his arm length? I can’t find anything on Costa online. Hard to believe his arms were ‘A LOT’ shorter
I think they were under 30 inches but he was called TRex. when so many people get all bent out of shape over half an inch, more than two inches is A LOT.
 

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The boys passed up on drafting Singletary because he was one half inch below their minimum standard for LB
 

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Watch Cooper Beebe vs Texas. You will have no concerns about arm length or anchor. If he can play center between Z Martin and TSmith you have an Oline center trio with brute power not seen since 1995 - Newton Donaldson LAllen
 

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after watching his highlight videos, and yes I know they are highlight videos but there is no way this guy doesn't start day 1. Man, his power.... just plows his guys
 

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I think that's the plan.
With Bass, Hoffman and Richards or Waletzko as the main bench.
Beebe gives us a lot of flexibility too. If Guyton is not ready, Tyler Smith could kick out and put Beebe at LG.
Or if Steele looks like last seasons version, Guyton could move to RT, Smith to LT, Beebe to LG.
He's an NFL ready prospect at G. We'll have to see about C.
No Wally and ball are gone you have edoga as your swing tackle and you got the other guys to fill in for sure we got some depth but those dudes already wore out their welcome they're gone when they picked that last tackle in the seventh round Wally is absolutely gone..
 

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Two pages to determine a B
If they get him to Centre as per the thoughts of others here. Then its a B+
Steady pick then.
You do realize 2 pages of absolutely nothing that's what people here's opinions matter are absolute 0 most experts say this is a steal and he will better be better than Tyler so that would be an A I mean I realize AB plus might be the guy himself but if he's better than the guy where replacing was I believe in the run game he will be he will not be pushed back and ran over he's smart and he will be the center early on in his career but he can replace Zach Martin Lee that's an A... Like I said where he's picked in the draft might be a bee add people who don't know him very well might be B but the fact that matter is just about every expert says this guy can play anywhere on the interior and he's an A
 

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So what you posted about Turpin proves Deuce is cooked??? Wow. Well, ok if you say so. That's connecting some serious dots to get where you want to go.

Deuce wasn't a bust last year. Not even close. I'm not sure what you expected out of a 6th rounder but the fact he made the 53 is pretty remarkable. The Cowboys had no scheme or plans for him. Literally no package at all. That's why he didn't get on the field much and had limited touches. Considering the lead the Cowboys had in most of their games it's obvious they mismanaged Deuce. Big Mike failed him.
100% man I agree he just wasn't used he didn't have a spot last year I believe if they give him some raps on special teams and as a scat back he will have a pretty nice career as a role player here.. There's no way you're telling me he can survive a three-year career and do what only two other players has done and at his college and Darren Sproles and Tyler Lockett and tell me he can't make a little roll for himself on this team they just simply didn't use him they use Turpin Pollard and lamb behind the line of scrimmage a lot but I think they need to get him involved...
 

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I urge folks to go watch Voch’s breakdown of Beebe. His tape against Murphy and Sweat is something.. No doubt in my mind that this kid is our starting Center.
 

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I urge folks to go watch Voch’s breakdown of Beebe. His tape against Murphy and Sweat is something.. No doubt in my mind that this kid is our starting Center.
IF he can reliably snap in games probably. That is not as easy as some claim to learn
 

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So what you posted about Turpin proves Deuce is cooked??? Wow. Well, ok if you say so. That's connecting some serious dots to get where you want to go.

Deuce wasn't a bust last year. Not even close. I'm not sure what you expected out of a 6th rounder but the fact he made the 53 is pretty remarkable. The Cowboys had no scheme or plans for him. Literally no package at all. That's why he didn't get on the field much and had limited touches. Considering the lead the Cowboys had in most of their games it's obvious they mismanaged Deuce. Big Mike failed him.
Deuce's ypc was 1.7 on 23 attempts. Not a fluke, and not an NFL RB.
You can get that much by falling forward dead at the LOS.
 

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Well we’ll see. Better at center than guard or tackle. Ryan Khalil center from Carolina is 31.5 and made the pro bowl.
In case you didn't know, I'm the President of the Phil Costa Fan Club. The only member too, but I did get 100% of the vote!
So I don't really have a big problem with the short arms. I kinda like the sound of Beebe. Thought some coach called him "strongest player he ever had". Also, smart. Sounds kinda like Fredbeard. But no experience at C. Really nice C project, and would have been ideal to take last year to get him up to speed at C. But tough row to hoe for a rookie to switch to an entirely new position, *and* the one that is supposed to know everything.
 

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No Wally and ball are gone you have edoga as your swing tackle and you got the other guys to fill in for sure we got some depth but those dudes already wore out their welcome they're gone when they picked that last tackle in the seventh round Wally is absolutely gone..
Waletzko would really have to step up to beat Edoga out for the swing tackle role. He was bad at RT last year. And it's questionable if he can stay healthy with the back-to-back shoulder surgeries.

Definitely think Ball has no chance unless Thomas is just worse. We will be trying to make Thomas a guard and Bass is going to win one backup guard spot unless he regresses from last year. With Hoffman at backup center, the interior line spots would seem to exclude Ball, even though I thought he looked decent there.
 

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In case you didn't know, I'm the President of the Phil Costa Fan Club. The only member too, but I did get 100% of the vote!
So I don't really have a big problem with the short arms. I kinda like the sound of Beebe. Thought some coach called him "strongest player he ever had". Also, smart. Sounds kinda like Fredbeard. But no experience at C. Really nice C project, and would have been ideal to take last year to get him up to speed at C. But tough row to hoe for a rookie to switch to an entirely new position, *and* the one that is supposed to know everything.
The good news is that Martin knows everything, so he can hold his hand until he gets up to speed.
 

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I just saw some idiot on NFL Network call Beebe a "serviceable" OL.

That's just disrespectful.
 

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Waletzko would really have to step up to beat Edoga out for the swing tackle role. He was bad at RT last year. And it's questionable if he can stay healthy with the back-to-back shoulder surgeries.

Definitely think Ball has no chance unless Thomas is just worse. We will be trying to make Thomas a guard and Bass is going to win one backup guard spot unless he regresses from last year. With Hoffman at backup center, the interior line spots would seem to exclude Ball, even though I thought he looked decent there.
I just believe all three of those guys are gone they experiments over they refreshed this last year and now in this draft and when they go out and get a bunch of undrafted free agents also lineman that's crazy there's a signal light that are being shining on these players that been on the bubble that it's time to step up or be cut.... I wish they would do that at more positions but they tend to overcorrect all the time and in this case it's the offensive line this year... I mean they did it at one time we finally got a good group of safeties and now we have some depth there as well so yes this front office tends to overcorrect. But I believe with all this resources going into this new offensive line in the last two years all the old ones are going to be gone the only reason the edoga is here is for some veteran presence.
 
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