4/15 Draft Thoughts

Cowboyny said:
-Since Downs is one of the safest prospects, I would consider a small trade up to land him if he comes in reach. Pick 93 would the most I would offer or maybe a swap of draft slots. Perhaps 9,30 and a day 3 pick for 12 and 20.
-Bain might not be the ideal fit, along with the physical traits you look for, but he is still a top 3 pass rusher in this class. At 12, you take him and adjust the defense around his skillset. Too good to pass for a lesser prospect.
-Plan certainly looks like building a stout run defense and playing that shell coverage. CP's biggest thing will be about post snap disguise. To be able to run this scheme, he needs that hybrid nickel to act as another run defender due to that light box. Don't rule out either Scott or Stukes higher then we expect.
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Id love Stukes.
 
cnuball21 said:
- Caleb Downs / Jeremiah Love are my top 2 players in the class. I see ZERO bust potential and you can flip a coin on you have at 1.
- When it rains it pours...the Cowboys have 2 1st round picks and we end with a really poor class at the top and we likely just removed 2 more players from our board in Bain and McCoy.
- If the above is true I think honing in on the big 4 and locking in on a trade up is a horrible idea. We are not 1 player away and need more darts to help fix our defense. I would rather trade down.
- There is a possibility Bain is there at 12 and we pass on in him for "scheme fit." I have been vocal on him being overrated in this class but I think at 12 you turn the card in considering what else will be available.
- I am at the point where offense should be on the table in round 1. If someone like Love / Mauignoa are available there is a chance they are about 10 slots higher than who the Cowboys may be considering. I am the most anti RB in round person you will find but this class has us handcuffed.
- CP has talked about the importance of stoping the run and how if you can do it with your front 4/7 and keep your safeties back it significantly helps your secondary. Dont be surprised if we do something like Faulk / Allen in round 1. High floor players that may not be great value but are dogs against the run and are safe.
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Id be perfectly happy with those picks. Im tired of being ran all over.
 
cnuball21 said:
That would be an incredible reach. Guyton was a better prospect.

I am only going offense is the play is ranked waaaaaaaay higher than the next defender.
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Freeling has been mocked as high as 6. ESPN has been as the 14th best prospect. Dane had him in the teens too.
 
cnuball21 said:
- Caleb Downs / Jeremiah Love are my top 2 players in the class. I see ZERO bust potential and you can flip a coin on you have at 1.
- When it rains it pours...the Cowboys have 2 1st round picks and we end with a really poor class at the top and we likely just removed 2 more players from our board in Bain and McCoy.
- If the above is true I think honing in on the big 4 and locking in on a trade up is a horrible idea. We are not 1 player away and need more darts to help fix our defense. I would rather trade down.
- There is a possibility Bain is there at 12 and we pass on in him for "scheme fit." I have been vocal on him being overrated in this class but I think at 12 you turn the card in considering what else will be available.
- I am at the point where offense should be on the table in round 1. If someone like Love / Mauignoa are available there is a chance they are about 10 slots higher than who the Cowboys may be considering. I am the most anti RB in round person you will find but this class has us handcuffed.
- CP has talked about the importance of stoping the run and how if you can do it with your front 4/7 and keep your safeties back it significantly helps your secondary. Dont be surprised if we do something like Faulk / Allen in round 1. High floor players that may not be great value but are dogs against the run and are safe.
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Being one player away isn't written in stone. One never regrets drafting greatness or good players
 
John813 said:
Freeling has been mocked as high as 6. ESPN has been as the 14th best prospect. Dane had him in the teens too.
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Where a player gets drafted in this garbage class has nothing to do with how he stacks up against Guyton as a prospect.

All of the best OL prospects in this class are RTs and Gs so he is getting pumped up bc teams will over reach for need.
 
Acceptablename said:
Being one player away isn't written in stone. One never regrets drafting greatness or good players
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Do you honestly believe one solid hit in a trade up fixes this defense?

It is about the opportunity cost you lost in moving up not feeling good about the player you are drafting.

It rarely works out for teams that move up for a non QB.
 
cnuball21 said:
Do you honestly believe one solid hit in a trade up fixes this defense?

It is about the opportunity cost you lost in moving up not feeling good about the player you are drafting.

It rarely works out for teams that move up for a non QB.
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I believe difference maker are prized pieces on either side of the ball and harder to come by. There are several ways to fill a roster
 
Acceptablename said:
I believe difference maker are prized pieces on either side of the ball and harder to come by. There are several ways to fill a roster
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And based off the last decade plus do you believe this front office is going to utilize the "several other ways to fill a roster" if we are sacrificing draft capital?
 
I'm a huge fan of Downs, but as we all have discussed recently, the depth of this class can really help us. Hell, trade back both of the picks and load up on top 50 players.
 
cnuball21 said:
And based off the last decade plus do you believe this front office is going to utilize the "several other ways to fill a roster" if we are sacrificing draft capital?
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It appears to me the last two off season have shown a different approach. I'm not Mr. Bill who has fallen down and can't get up.what about you?
 
Acceptablename said:
It appears to me the last two off season have shown a different approach. I'm not Mr. Bill who has fallen down and can't get up.what about you?
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How so? We have done the same approach we have always done and gone dumpster diving for players their old teams gave up on. Thompson is the one legit signing we've had.

Personal attacks dont change that.
 
cnuball21 said:
How so? We have done the same approach we have always done and gone dumpster diving for players their old teams gave up on. Thompson is the one legit signing we've had.

Personal attacks dont change that.
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Parker doesn't move the needle for you? Gary?
 
cnuball21 said:
- Caleb Downs / Jeremiah Love are my top 2 players in the class. I see ZERO bust potential and you can flip a coin on you have at 1.
- When it rains it pours...the Cowboys have 2 1st round picks and we end with a really poor class at the top and we likely just removed 2 more players from our board in Bain and McCoy.
- If the above is true I think honing in on the big 4 and locking in on a trade up is a horrible idea. We are not 1 player away and need more darts to help fix our defense. I would rather trade down.
- There is a possibility Bain is there at 12 and we pass on in him for "scheme fit." I have been vocal on him being overrated in this class but I think at 12 you turn the card in considering what else will be available.
- I am at the point where offense should be on the table in round 1. If someone like Love / Mauignoa are available there is a chance they are about 10 slots higher than who the Cowboys may be considering. I am the most anti RB in round person you will find but this class has us handcuffed.
- CP has talked about the importance of stoping the run and how if you can do it with your front 4/7 and keep your safeties back it significantly helps your secondary. Dont be surprised if we do something like Faulk / Allen in round 1. High floor players that may not be great value but are dogs against the run and are safe.
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You are a glutton for punishment. You know the old man is gonna do something on draft night for attention.

The smart thing to do since the draft is strong with second/third round players is to trade back acquire more 2nd day picks and get 4-5 good prospects. Defensive and offensive players. The Cowboys need to rebuild.

Something is up with Bain and to me it’s more than the short arms or the car accident.
 
cnuball21 said:
Do you honestly believe one solid hit in a trade up fixes this defense?

It is about the opportunity cost you lost in moving up not feeling good about the player you are drafting.

It rarely works out for teams that move up for a non QB.
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Downs would be outstanding.
 
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