4 cornerback base defense?

[xwalker]

Now that the Boys have a legit 2nd QB, they are going to run a 2 QB offense.

 

[AbeBeta]

I see what your saying. But other than the eagles (mccoy) the rest of the teams in the nfc East can't run the ball. Not just the nfc east, but what teams in the entire NFC can really run the ball? (vikings) The possibilities with our cb's excites me. I'm excited about possible multiple cb's as our base d. Hell, we all know nothing else has worked on d.

They can't run against a base 7 man front.

You move that to a 5 or 6 man front and any team will be able to run. It doesn't take a great RB or a great OL to handle that sort of set up.

The real difference here is that you are trading LBs for DBs. Every LB who leaves the field for a DB makes your D about 50 LBs lighter. That beef mattes in run d. It matters a whole bunch.

 

[AbeBeta]

If they are rock stupid...yea. But increase the numbers at the line of scrimage to five and six players and the ball carrier will be stopped. Period.

Increase the # of players at the LOS and the ball carrier will be stopped? That's just crazy talk if you are putting CBs or S at the LOS. That might work once or twice but as a common set it is going to fail against the run.

Oh, and nice try on a six DB setting on first down...that started out four IQ points below sedimentary rock. Simply stated, unless one of the four corners was very good on tight ends, there would have been an additional safety for coverage of the tight end and play action vulnerability as well.

What on earth are you talking about? The OP opined about a 4 CB base set. For most people "base" means what you come out with on first.

Bragging smart doesn't cover the bull being hyped.

What I like about your posts is that you provide an executive summary at the end.

 

[Idgit]

http://www.cowboyszone.com/2012/05/is-nickel-corner-new-safety.html

You guys are cracking me up here. No coordinator worth his salt will run a dime or nickel defense as a base defense. Just as AbeBeta has pointed out in his posts teams will run the ball on you all day everyday until you can stop it. If you run blitz with more than 4 guys, someone is going to be uncovered and the FS (Sensabaugh who is not even pictured) is going to have alot of ground to cover for a 2nd and 2.

The above picture is an example of Scandrick covering a TE in a 12 personnel in a close ace formation - also called snugs. (Both TEs are lined up outside the tackles in a flex position. Rob Ryan countered a base personnel formation with a nickel defense because Travis Beckham is 6.3 234 lb TE who rarely blocks when he is in the formation or catches a pass for that matter. (4yrs/26 rec/264 yds/3 TDs)

Scandrick has covered TEs numerous times in these situations and the media has somehow translated that he nows plays safety as well when in fact he is just a slot corner doing what a slot corner does best and that is cover the slot receiver. Ian Rapoport did a real nice hackjob with his article and as Parcells would say "you guys got sucked".

Dallas is holding onto Jenkins for depth or unless a team gets really desperate and wants to part with a 2nd or 1st rd pick.

Great post, btw, Bluestang.

 

[Bluestang]

Great post, btw, Bluestang.

Thanks but it seeems to fall on deaf ears because I pointed out a few days ago that the media's interpretation of Scandrick playing a hybrid role is a misunderstanding of what RR is asking of his defense.

 

[DFWJC]

They run 4 CB sets, but no, not as a base defense.....ever.

 

[Idgit]

Thanks but it seeems to fall on deaf ears because I pointed out a few days ago that the media's interpretation of Scandrick playing a hybrid role is a misunderstanding of what RR is asking of his defense.

It's not falling on deaf ears, at all. If it silences an irrational line of argument, it's well-worth posting. Believe me, for every post like this in a thread that goes unaddressed, there are posters saying 'thank God that debate has been quieted down.'

And, if I haven't mentioned it outright before, your football insight is really appreciated. I dig your posts, and I slow my scrolling to read all of them.