49 Bodies Dumped Beside a Highway in Mexico

trickblue;4560963 said:
Cancun is no different than going to Miami Beach... it's so Americanized with American chain restaurants and MTV-like atmosphere...

Playa del Carmen is quickly getting commercialized, but is much better... try Puerto Morelos... still has the charm of Old Mexico and the reef is still pristine there...

I've heard that Isla Mujeres is a good spot to hit because it has yet to be commercialized.
 
The30YardSlant;4560561 said:
Those Mexican drug lords don't **** around.

We know they are well armed thanks to the Justice Department and the BATF.
 
JBond;4561593 said:
We know they are well armed thanks to the Justice Department and the BATF.

Like they wouldn't have been well armed otherwise?

The Zetas are founded by ex special forces military, and have recruited more during their rise.
 
arglebargle;4561611 said:
Like they wouldn't have been well armed otherwise?

The Zetas are founded by ex special forces military, and have recruited more during their rise.

I am sure they are putting the thousands of weapons we gave them to good use.

I wonder who they plan to pick up off with the 50cal sniper riffles?
 
JBond;4561624 said:
I am sure they are putting the thousands of weapons we gave them to good use.

I wonder who they plan to pick up off with the 50cal sniper riffles?

Again, because they magickally wouldn't have gotten those weapons anyway?
 
arglebargle;4561699 said:
Again, because they magickally wouldn't have gotten those weapons anyway?

This may be true or not, there is no real way to prove the statement one way or the other. However, it does not make it OK, regardless. If they were going to get those guns anyway, better to have gotten them from somebody other then us and that is the simple truth to it.
 
arglebargle;4561699 said:
Again, because they magickally wouldn't have gotten those weapons anyway?

Are you serious? Hey why not let's give some school kids drugs, they're going to get them anyway. :p
 
Sam I Am;4560916 said:
I've been to Cancun and Cozumel. Cancun had the nicer hotels, but the place just sucks. Cozumel's hotels aren't that great, but the awesome snorkeling makes it easily worth it.

Love Cozumel. We've gone the last two years and will be going back again this year.

Where did you stay?
 
vta;4561769 said:
Are you serious? Hey why not let's give some school kids drugs, they're going to get them anyway. :p


yeah- very dumb arguement
 
If you are going to track underground weapons shipments, you have to actually have some weapons to track.

These guys are multi-millionaires in high-end organized crime cartels. They will get any guns they want. Or do you think they are somehow now restricted to saturday night special .38 snubbies because this avenue of procurement is gone?
 
arglebargle;4561856 said:
If you are going to track underground weapons shipments, you have to actually have some weapons to track.

These guys are multi-millionaires in high-end organized crime cartels. They will get any guns they want. Or do you think they are somehow now restricted to saturday night special .38 snubbies because this avenue of procurement is gone?

:laugh2:

Ah that was the plan all along. 'Now we got 'em'.

I was thinking of writing my Congressman and asking if he would just do something about saving Iran the trouble and just send them some of our nukes. They'll get them any way, so we might as well just cut out the middle man, give them ours then promptly bomb the hell out them.
 
arglebargle;4561856 said:
If you are going to track underground weapons shipments, you have to actually have some weapons to track.

These guys are multi-millionaires in high-end organized crime cartels. They will get any guns they want. Or do you think they are somehow now restricted to saturday night special .38 snubbies because this avenue of procurement is gone?

If that was the plan, it failed multiple times. I don't buy that line of reasoning at all. Should not take more then once to figure out that it doesn't work.
 
ABQCOWBOY;4561917 said:
If that was the plan, it failed multiple times. I don't buy that line of reasoning at all. Should not take more then once to figure out that it doesn't work.

In fact it did work under the previous regime. They prosecuted over 600 people for illegal gun purchases. Then for some unknown reason Holder decided to let guns walk instead of arresting people. Crazy. He actually thought this asinine plan would work. Not the brightest guy.

Lol he thought he was going to track sniper rifles to the king pin's house and arrest him....It's comical.

Meanwhile the tax payers were forced to pay for these weapons we gave to narco-terrorists and they are turning up at crime scenes all over the place. Holder should be spending the rest of his life in prison.
 
Actually, I think the previous Administration failed as well. They may have had some arrests, I don't know, but they tried to tag all the guns as well and follow them but the guns were taken to locations inside Mexico and left there until aircraft charged with the responsibility of tracking the weapons ran out of fuel. They were then moved and the U.S. Government lost them. That was when the idea of walking guns was ended under the previous administration.

It should never have happened again.
 
These guys were getting guns no matter what. It doesn't excuse what was done on this side because what they did was inexcusable. It is just a fact that guns were gathered from multiple places and means including those from the DoJ.
 
joseephuss;4562051 said:
These guys were getting guns no matter what. It doesn't excuse what was done on this side because what they did was inexcusable. It is just a fact that guns were gathered from multiple places and means including those from the DoJ.

This. Dont want to rock anybodies world but here in So Cal last weekend LAPD had their annual gun buy back from the public, no questions asked. As usual they bought back hundreds of illegal guns, including one rocket launcher. If small time hoodlums and the general public can get their hands on stuff like this, imagine what people with resources can get a hold of with no problem.
 
Sam I Am;4560945 said:
My issue is [strike]this[/strike] these:
  1. Hotels are way to close together and they are high towers. You lay on the beach and the hotel next door blocks out your sun if you are out there and it's past noon / 1pm. :mad:
  2. The downtown area is dirty and the people that work there (especially at the Hard Rock) just plain suck and don't care.
  3. Too many people begging you to buy crap or trying to scam you the second you step foot out of the hotel. (I heard it happens in some hotels too, but our Hotel didn't allow it or those idiot time-share / cigar / art sellers do business in our hotel, or the little chicklet gum selling kids)

I know there was something else, but I can't think of it now. In Cozumel, our hotel was aged, but the service was really good. We drove around the island and we had a good time doing that. Cozumel I would go back to just for the snorkeling.

Go to Playa Del Carmen. My roommate's family has a home on the beach near where the boat to Cozumel launches. I'm sure you've been there if you've been to Cozumel. Not far away from Cancun and less of a giant tourist area. It definitely is a tourist area but a smaller town than Cancun. We even took a trip to the middle of the Yucatan and explored Mayan ruins and this sweet cenote that was down inside a cave. Beautiful area.
 
The fact that the Cartel can buy weapons at anytime has nothing to do with anything. US selling them in some sort of poorly ran sting operation is stupid and it cost people their lives and we contributed to it. You can spin it how ever you want but those are the facts and no one has been able to dispute it yet
 

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