49ers Player Has Brutally Honest Admission On Dak Prescott

Kevinicus

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You added that later after I pointed out your BS about "easy 8 yards" you originally posted. Yes you may be a just a liar.
Adding additional backgrount information is not changing. One supports the other. It's not contradictory data.

It's not my fault you can't understand the play.
 

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Adding additional backgrount information is not changing. One supports the other. It's not contradictory data.

It's not my fault you can't understand the play.
It is when it's done after someone repeatedly pointed out the BS. It's called "politicians' tricks 101". Do you work for a Russian or Chinese troll farm?
 

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I am in no way defending Dak's performance because that speaks for itself with so many interceptions this season.

That said, the one thing that irritates me when teams play zone against the Cowboys is that Kellen Moore calls a lot of comeback routes which makes it really easy for the defenders to defend. The defender never loses sight of the ball while the Cowboys receiver only sees the ball at the end of the comeback route.

Even if that's the only way he knows how to beat zone you would think at some point he would mix in some "run to the defender, stop, turn back, then immediately turn around and take off down field" just to keep the defenders honest or hesitating.
Spot on. :hammer: I really hope we get another OC.
 

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As I mentioned, I've been complaining about this play for like 12 years. Here is Romo vs GB in 2013. This is the same play where he threw an INT in the 4th quarter trying for the game winning drive. This was the "Matt Flynn" game where we had a big lead but lost due to the turnovers. Does this look familiar?

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For comparison between Dak's play where it almost got intercepted and Romo's play where he did get intercepted. Look at where Shultz is and the defender gurding him. Witt is in the same position. This play has been around and sucking for a long time.

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As I mentioned, I've been complaining about this play for like 12 years. Here is Romo vs GB in 2013. This is the same play where he threw an INT in the 4th quarter trying for the game winning drive. This was the "Matt Flynn" game where we had a big lead but lost due to the turnovers. Does this look familiar?

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That's not the same play. Notice the outside WR at the top running downfield? Where's the RB or other WR?
It's also not the interception play.

The interception play was a TD, but just bad ball placement.
This looks like an easy first down to Beasely. See the ball going out to the wide open WR, and not to the blanketed TE in the middle?

You keep posting evidence that supports the arguments others are making.
 

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It is when it's done after someone repeatedly pointed out the BS. It's called "politicians' tricks 101". Do you work for a Russian or Chinese troll farm?
That's not how any of this works.

I made a statement. I gave supporting data. Nothing in the supporting data conflicts or changes the original statement. It was explaining where the original statement came from.
I never said, or implied, that CD was at 8 yards right away. If you thought that, that is a failure on your part.

Your BS has been disproven over and over again and you just deflect.
I made a 2 yard error on my original calculation. I'm am honest and not a liar, so I'm able to admit my error. The error doesn't really change the overall points of the play, but yet you keep harping on it like I'm flip flopping.

Can you answer simple questions?

The line of scrimmage was the 18. Do you agree?
CD went out at around the 24. Do you agree?
24-18 is 6. Do you agree?
CD was at 4 yards or less from the LoS when "making his break". Do you agree? (You previously said Schultz was at 4 yards and CD was less than Schultz).
6 is greater than 4. Do you agree?
To get to 6 when you're at 4 or less, you cannot be going parallel to the LoS. Do you agree?
If you get to 6 from 4, you went at an angle greater than 0 to the LoS. Do you agree?
Schultz is covered and is the worst option on this play. Do you agree?
If throwing to Schultz, the throw here is late. Do you agree?
The CB over Lamb is facing the wrong direction to make a play on an out route. Do you agree?
The CB and LB are giving up several yards of space to CD. Do you agree?
Lamb is running away from, not towards the defenders. Do you agree?
A quality throw to the outside, to Lamb, at the same time, or shortly after the throw to Schultz should be a completion. Do you agree?
A 6 yard completion to Lamb is better than an incomplete pass, a pick 6, or a 4 yard completion to Schultz. Do you agree?
Zeke is also an option in the flat. Do you agree?
Zeke is not as likely to get as many yards as CD. Do you agree?
All the defensive lineman had at least one blocker between themselves and Dak. Do you agree?
Dak had space in all directions. Do you agree?
Dak was untouched. Do you agree?
 

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That's not the same play. Notice the outside WR at the top running downfield? Where's the RB or other WR?
It's also not the interception play.

The interception play was a TD, but just bad ball placement.
This looks like an easy first down to Beasely. See the ball going out to the wide open WR, and not to the blanketed TE in the middle?

You keep posting evidence that supports the arguments others are making.
It's the same concept. They have a variation of it. It's obvious you have no clue. Again. Just because it isn't exactly the same it doesn't mean they aren't the same play using the same concept.

You seem to have problem understanding the point that this is bad play design where it is easy to defend and the risk of something bad happening for the offense is great. I suggest you watch more film breakdowns.
 

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It's the same concept. They have a variation of it. It's obvious you have no clue. Again. Just because it isn't exactly the same it doesn't mean they aren't the same play using the same concept.

You seem to have problem understanding the point that this is bad play design where it is easy to defend and the risk of something bad happening for the offense is great. I suggest you watch more film breakdowns.
Same concept...and it looks like it worked for an easy first down? So?

Do you know how examples are supposed to work?

Edit: I see I was mistaken. There was an interception on this play. I was thinking of the previous one where Miles Austin was the target. I need to see a replay of this, because Cole looks wide open for a first. Not sure where the ball goes.
Edit 2: It was just a poor throw or miscommunication. Beasely was open for the first down. So, the concept worked. Romo missed him.
 
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Same concept...and it looks like it worked for an easy first down? So?
Romo got intercepted using the same crap play. People are claiming the issue is only with Dak because he can't read defenses. I'm pointing out it's more than the issues with the QB play. It's also the scheme and bad play design.
 
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