5/29 PFF article hints that Romo is poor under pressure

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Examining Pressure: QB Play

Article out by PFF yesterday that seems to indicate that, when compared to other QBs, Romo's performance under pressure is not very good.

Of course, as with any PFF analysis, it's based on PFF own internal metrics. If you guy by QB rating vs pressure, Romo does is actually very good.

I'm not sure what to make of the article really, however, I thought it was interesting enough to point post.
 

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Not sure how they split that list up the way they did.
Romo's under pressure QB rating and completion percentage belong in the upper half of the good group, not the bad group.

I mean he has Luck on the under pressure good list with a 39% completion rate and 56 passer rating...yet has Romo on the lower list with a 51% completion percentage and 71 passer rating (one of the highest iun the lague under pressure).
Plus Romo was one of the few QBs in the whole league who had more TDs than INts under pressure.

They clearly messed up his calcualation, as he is WAY better than most on that "good list" in every single category.

If anything, he should be rated inthe top 5-6 overall...by their numbers!.

Classic total BS by PFF.
 

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What's next?

QB 1# threw for 300 yards, 3 touchdowns and no INTs while being pressured.......

QB 2# threw for 100 yards, no touchdowns and 3 INTs while being pressured....


QB 2# is the better quarterback under pressure????????????
 

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Pff does, and has always, sucked at everything.
 

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Red Dragon;5092475 said:
What's next?

QB 1# threw for 300 yards, 3 touchdowns and no INTs while being pressured.......

QB 2# threw for 100 yards, no touchdowns and 3 INTs while being pressured....


QB 2# is the better quarterback under pressure????????????
:laugh2:
I know. It's baffling.
They could not have made this up out of thin air and been more off.
 

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Future;5092476 said:
Pff does, and has always, sucked at everything.

yep. you get some here whining that it is the only game in town.

Well when the game is garbage what good is it?
 

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They don't go into how they arrive at their "grades", but obviously it's not simply a QB rating type of thing.

At any rate, you guys should indeed hope their is some validity to PFF's rankings, because it says that Romo's at his worst under pressure when the pressure comes from the center...and you just drafted a new one lol.
 

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Romo seems to make the most mistakes when they bring pressure up the middle,the skins did it the whole game in week 17 and we had no answer for it.
 

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More times than not Romo has put the team in position to win. He does not kick the FG that is missed and he does not play on defense who has managed to give late leads up as soon as we get them.

Romo no doubt has also had moments where he has made a critical mistake but all in all I'm happy to have him as the QB
 

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If you look at those chart they don' make alot of sense. For example Big Ben is ahead of Romo and Romo stats are simply better. Having said that I don't think anyone will mistake Romo for Staubach in big game situations.
 

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Califan007;5092499 said:
They don't go into how they arrive at their "grades", but obviously it's not simply a QB rating type of thing.

At any rate, you guys should indeed hope their is some validity to PFF's rankings, because it says that Romo's at his worst under pressure when the pressure comes from the center...and you just drafted a new one lol.
Yeah. If the pressure is on you right away up the middle, that's bad news.

As for their "grades". I'm pretty sure they miscalcalated Romo's.
They show all the data that goes into it and he his way up near the top in every category...yet somehow he get's this low grade. It makes no sense.
They either miscalcualated or have some agenda. I'll assume the former.

Under pressure, according to their own data...
  • His turnover ratio is one of the very best
  • His overall passer rating is near the top
  • His completion % is near the top
  • His yards per completion is near the top
He's higher than almost everyone except a handful of players, yet they have him way down the list.
Shaub seems to get a bit of the shaft as well.
 

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Wood;5092512 said:
If you look at those chart they don' make alot of sense. For example Big Ben is ahead of Romo and Romo stats are simply better. Having said that I don't think anyone will mistake Romo for Staubach in big game situations.

True but then I don't think anyone is mistaking this defensive unit to that of Doomsday either.
 

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PFF has their negative 100 points for being a Cowboy in their equations.
 

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blindzebra;5092545 said:
PFF has their negative 100 points for being a Cowboy in their equations.
:bow:
I swear, it almost looks that way.
No other way to logically explain it.:laugh2:
 

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I saw this elsewhere and commented that there is no apparent correllation to the PFF ranking and QBR.
 

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Future;5092476 said:
Pff does, and has always, sucked at everything.
I don't understand why you'd think the service that said Leonard Davis was the best guard in the NFC East going into the offseason where he was cut and then not signed by a single NFL team would be poor at evaluating talent
 

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Every QB is poor under pressure that comes up the middle including Brady, and I would not have extended Romo. I would have let the season play out.
 

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Crown Royal;5092555 said:
I saw this elsewhere and commented that there is no apparent correllation to the PFF ranking and QBR.

That's actually not a surprise -- just like how QB rating and the ESPN's new NFL QB rating system don't match up either.

QB rating only takes into account a QB's passing ability. While I'm not a big fan of running QBs, I think it would be a mistake not to account for someone like Aaron Rodgers who runs for a lot of 1st downs in addition to his passing stats. In other words, looking at a QB's ability to make a positive play whether it's passing or running the ball.
 

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perrykemp;5092567 said:
That's actually not a surprise -- just like how QB rating and the new NFL QB rating system don't match up either.

QB rating only takes into account a QB's passing ability. While I'm not a big fan of running QBs, I think it would be a mistake not to account for someone like Aaron Rodgers who runs for a lot of 1st downs in addition to his passing stats. In other words, looking at a QB's ability to make a positive play whether it's passing or running the ball.
I would still expect some correllation. They may not be directly related, but a set of QBRs that are fantastic should still be generally good in another system. If not then they are quite literarlly either measuring something different or one is fundamentally flawed.
 

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One thing I will note and I think is up for conversation is that Romo doesn't appear to have the MOST pressures by comparative. Many on this board would contend that Romo is the only QB who has ever stared down a blitz, but some of those who are better than he during pressure are not just better, but have seen more.
 
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