5/29 PFF article hints that Romo is poor under pressure

[perrykemp]

One thing I will note and I think is up for conversation is that Romo doesn't appear to have the MOST pressures by comparative. Many on this board would contend that Romo is the only QB who has ever stared down a blitz, but some of those who are better than he during pressure are not just better, but have seen more.

Agreed -- Looking at the stats, it looks like Aaron Rodgers is under pressure 50-65% of the time -- it's hard to understand the exact number.

I think Romo is up there -- but the, despite what I hear on CZ quite often, the Cowboy's pass blocking wasn't as bad as other teams -- including the Packers.

 

[Crown Royal]

Pressure up the middle will always be challenging to Romo. He's 6' and a hair, come at him in the front and toast.

 

[burmafrd]

Agreed -- Looking at the stats, it looks like Aaron Rodgers is under pressure 50-65% of the time -- it's hard to understand the exact number.

I think Romo is up there -- but the, despite what I hear on CZ quite often, the Cowboy's pass blocking wasn't as bad as other teams -- including the Packers.

coming from a packer fan

 

[burmafrd]

Pressure up the middle will always be challenging to Romo. He's 6' and a hair, come at him in the front and toast.

Pressure up the middle messes with ANY QB no matter how tall.

 

[perrykemp]

coming from a packer fan

Yes clearly I am biased -- I am arguing the Packers OL sucks even worse than the Cowboys OL.

 

[burmafrd]

Yes clearly I am biased -- I am arguing the Packers OL sucks even worse than the Cowboys OL.

because you want Rogers to look better. Not exactly subtle of you

 

[Crown Royal]

because you want Rogers to look better. Not exactly subtle of you

lol what? I love Romo, but Rodgers is better. No poster here needs to do anything extra to make him look better.

 

[DFWJC]

Pressure up the middle will always be challenging to Romo. He's 6' and a hair, come at him in the front and toast.

6' 2" is not a hair over 6'.

Kinding of showing a negative bias there to make a point, I see.

But yes, pressure up the middle on any QB is a pain.

As for the Rodgers stuff. Well he IS Aaron Rodgers. That is a tier up, imo.

But speaking of Romo's height--well, Rodgers and Romo are at least identical in that category.

 

[Crown Royal]

6' 2" is not a hair over 6'.

Kinding of showing a negative bias there to make a point, I see.

But yes, pressure up the middle on any QB is a pain.

As for the Rodgers stuff. Well he IS Aaron Rodgers. That is a tier up, imo.

But speaking of Romo's height--well, Rodgers and Romo are at least identical in that category.

Not worth arguing or anything but I'm barely 6'1, stood next to Romo and felt at best the same height. I assure you I have no negative Bias toward Romo, I'm a big fan and am actually glad we re-signed him.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

because you want Rogers to look better. Not exactly subtle of you

As an astute member (you, not me) of the CZ, I expected better from you.
It's no secret that Rogers is better than Romo. Not even a contest. Rogers has a Lombardini ring and trophy to prove it. And he has more playoff wins than Romo has fingers.

Having said that, Romo is a very talented QB. His only fault to to not PERFORM WELL UNDER PRESSURE IN THE BIG GAMES.

The more sensitive in this place will take that as an attack on Romo. It is not. It is just a fact. When Romo learns to think clearly under pressure, in a big game, then he steps into that realm we call GREAT QBs. Until Romo wins at least a few more playoff games or has a Lombardini trophy, he's just another good QB with good stats. Nothing more, nothingless.
We're all waiting for Romo to do well in the playoffs. So far, he has not done that despite his huge payday.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Did not read the article, don't care about meaningless stats.

But the point is accurate.

And it is mostly not Romo's fault.

Romo is harassed because of protection. He has a GM that is oblivious to this fact and continues to think that Romo can do it all with a lesser line. So much so he has made that remark this off season.

Romo has a team surrounding him that is lacking enough that he has to saddle up the offense and carry it almost completely alone.

Romo has a head coach that abandons the run too early and tilts toward a pass happy offense like Andy Reid.

Romo has a defense that is not bad, but is not great, who finds difficulty in coming up with the critical stop against top flight teams.

Romo also forces passes and tries to do too much instead of take what he can during crunch time. He has done this his entire career.

Add that up and you come up with Romo struggles with pressure.

Most of it is the fault of the team around him and the GM who chooses to put that team around him and head coach who calls the plays that put Romo in a position to not succeed.

But regardless of the people who think he walks on water, Romo has a hand in this perception of him struggling with pressure.

 

[KB1122]

Oh, come on. Romo is so clutch. Before every big game, you just know in your gut that he's going to find a way to pull it out. Especially in games with the playoffs on the line.

 

[Muhast]

On page 3, the "Interior rush combined..... Romo vs Hasselbeck: Romo has far better completion percentage (50.3>40.7) far better TD/INT(8-5>1-8), much higher QB Rating (76.1>30.4) yet Hasselbeck has a higher PFF rating. So a worse Comp %, worse TD/INT,less than half the QB rating, yet a higher score? Makes sense.Not.

 

[Califan007]

On page 3, the "Interior rush combined..... Romo vs Hasselbeck: Romo has far better completion percentage (50.3>40.7) far better TD/INT(8-5>1-8), much higher QB Rating (76.1>30.4) yet Hasselbeck has a higher PFF rating. So a worse Comp %, worse TD/INT,less than half the QB rating, yet a higher score? Makes sense.Not.

Um, no he doesn't lol...Romo has a higher PFF rating than Hasselbeck in that section.

You also got some of the stats wrong for that section:

Hasselbeck has a completion percentage of 47.7%...not 40.7%

Hasselbeck had a TD/INT ration of 1-6....not 1-8

Hasselbeck had a QB rating of 40.5...not 30.4

 

[Muhast]

Um, no he doesn't lol...Romo has a higher PFF rating than Hasselbeck in that section.

You also got some of the stats wrong for that section:

Hasselbeck has a completion percentage of 47.7%...not 40.7%

Hasselbeck had a TD/INT ration of 1-6....not 1-8

Hasselbeck had a QB rating of 40.5...not 30.4

My bad, I meant Delhomme, sorry about that lol. All of the stats I was referring to are Jake Delhommes. Who has a higher PFF rating.

 

[Califan007]

My bad, I meant Delhomme, sorry about that lol. All of the stats I was referring to are Jake Delhommes. Who has a higher PFF rating.

Ah, ok....yeah, the Delhomme ranking is seriously off lol. The only thing I saw about his ranking was that his sample size was so low it "skewed" his grade...or something.

 

[03EBZ06]

My bad, I meant Delhomme, sorry about that lol. All of the stats I was referring to are Jake Delhommes. Who has a higher PFF rating.

In that page, it's not just Delhommes who shouldn't be higher than Romo, but Garrard and Sanchez as well and Orton shouldn't have same grade as Romo either.

Something seriously wrong with their formulas, whatever they are using.

 

[zack]

Agreed -- Looking at the stats, it looks like Aaron Rodgers is under pressure 50-65% of the time -- it's hard to understand the exact number.

I think Romo is up there -- but the, despite what I hear on CZ quite often, the Cowboy's pass blocking wasn't as bad as other teams -- including the Packers.

I do think Rodgers is better than Romo. But Rodgers has a pretty damn good receiving core as well. He has guys that actually run their routes at full speed and make an effort to out jump the CBs. We have Miles Austin who clearly takes plays off and hardly goes up or dives for passes. Dez and Witten are studs but Dez accounted for many of his early season INTs early in the season because he ran the wrong conversion routes.

 

[DFWJC]

In that page, it's not just Delhommes who shouldn't be higher than Romo, but Garrard and Sanchez as well and Orton shouldn't have same grade as Romo either.

Something seriously wrong with their formulas, whatever they are using.

There are at least a dozen guys who should not be higher based on the numbers they presented. Really , only a handful should have been better based on the "under pressure" numbers for TD/int ratio, QB rating, yards per completion, completion percentage, etc. Romo was near the top in all of those under pressure numbers.
Rodgers was off charts, and 3-4 others were good...but after that, Romo was right there.
Still trying to figure out how the turned that into a negative.

 

[CF74]

This stat is the most odd part:

When Facing No Pressure
Romo at the bottom of the first list.

Let’s start with the easy stuff. Who are the top quarterbacks in a clean pocket?


Quarterback Dropbacks Att Comp Comp% Yds Yds/Att TD INT PFF Grade QB Rating
Drew Brees 2584 2567 1860 72.5% 21766 8.5 177 56 211.9 111.7
Aaron Rodgers 2346 2233 1584 70.9% 19144 8.6 157 36 181.8 113.6
Matt Ryan 2177 2110 1433 67.9% 16126 7.6 109 44 141.9 99.1
Philip Rivers 2008 1978 1399 70.7% 17252 8.7 120 47 137.1 107.7
Peyton Manning 2045 2040 1451 71.1% 15777 7.7 127 35 137.0 107.2
Tom Brady 2021 2006 1404 70.0% 16611 8.3 126 31 123.0 109.4
Ben Roethlisberger 1913 1876 1243 66.3% 15091 8.0 85 39 107.0 97.3
Matt Schaub 1828 1805 1291 71.5% 15420 8.5 85 41 101.3 103.5
Eli Manning 2056 2034 1347 66.2% 15884 7.8 114 47 100.0 98.9
Joe Flacco 2153 2122 1375 64.8% 16233 7.6 92 42 95.0 94.2
Tony Romo 1797 1773 1242 70.1% 14573 8.2 98 37 68.7 104.4

Weird...