53 Man Roster per Cowboys Wire

[Beaker42]

I think RJ makes it over Malik. If Malik impresses we may see Deuce on the PS.

Farniok over Bass on O-line. We’ll carry 4 TE’s and McKeon likely makes the team again.

There will be a couple surprises on defense too. We’ll probably see a CB and DE cut that people expect to make the team. I’ll go with Bossman and Fowler.

If we carry 4 TE’s I’ll vomit.

 

[Carson]

Any players who start training camp on PUP list?

Lewis is my guess. Steele likely just to not rush it

 

[shabazz]

If we carry 4 TE’s I’ll vomit.

I’m vomiting by the fact we might be rolling with these same two quarterbacks.

evidently they don’t feel upgrading at this position is necessary.

Keep the status quo since it’s been so successful

 

[ChronicCowboy]

If we carry 4 TE’s I’ll vomit.

It’s happened for the past 6 years so get ready. We love TE’s so much they wasted 3 years on Rico freaking Gathers.

 

[DuncanIso]

if I was a rookie, I’d be at the Star everyday. My position coach would get tired of seeing me. I’d learn everything.

Hope they make it.

 

[gimmesix]

Punt return stats are muddy. Does a fair catch count as a return? What about field position when the other team punts?

Stat wise, yards per return, hes around 9 or 10 or so. Which shocked me a little.

Hes by no means elite, even though he has elite speed. But he was also worn down after playing a full season in the USFL, where he was league MVP.

I think he'll be better this year.

He was also close to breaking several. One zig when you should have zagged can change things ... and Turpin has shown that he has the ability to make the right move, it's just one of those things that doesn't always happen. Just like a QB throwing an interception, just the wrong decision in the moment.

 

[gimmesix]

It’s happened for the past 6 years so get ready. We love TE’s so much they wasted 3 years on Rico freaking Gathers.

I do wonder if we carry a fullback if we'll only go with three TEs. Those two positions seem to be grouped. I have little doubt we could get McKeon to the practice squad and bring him up for a few games if needed.

 

[gimmesix]

Like most of it. I see jones making it over davis at RB.

I also see scot making it over wright or joseph.

I agree with you on Jones. I like Davis more than you do, but Jones not only was once a second-round pick, but he does have some skins on the wall despite what happened in KC.

Agreed on Scott, too. I think the Wright experiment ends. He doesn't have the ability to get out of breaks quickly enough in coverage. His long speed is fine. His length is fine. But receivers eat him up on cuts. He's also behind Joseph as a special teams gunner, so Joseph has more value there as well as more to work with if he can get his head to catch up to his physical skills.

 

[gimmesix]

Any players who start training camp on PUP list?

Maybe Steele and Pollard, although they are expected to be ready.

 

[quickccc]

Deuce is splitting returns with Turpin at the very least and that's ST. 99 percent chance he makes the 53

I could see Bones giving Deuce plenty of kick return duties in preseason to get Vaughn adjusted and working at special teams,..the same way Bones has adjusted
Rico and Malik in kick returns. I'd expect Deuce to adjust and do well in that area.

Punt returns are a different story, and while Deuce has no experience in that area at KSU, that is a strength with Turpin.
and just one year, albeit a year in the NFL, where he is already one of the better return guys in NFL, but where he has had to work
in back to back football league and no time to rest his tiny body, that could've been a toll on him.

In short, I am far more interested in finding a backup punt return guy, in case Turpin is injured,. .than I am trying to find a permanent replacement for a Pro Bowl returner.

 

[Creeper]

I see 3 legitimate DTs on this list and that is a problem I think. Not sure who gets cut but I don't think it will be Gallimore this year unless he looks really bad. Golston and Fehoko are not legitimate DTs, they are more like 3rd down inside pass rushers. Considering Hankins's age and wear and tear they need more depth inside.

I also think they find a way to keep CJ Goodwin for special teams. Maybe Joseph or Wright gets cut, but that would leave them very thin a CB. Do they really need 4 RBs and 5 Safeties? Seems like they can go with 3 RBs and 4 Safeties by keeping one of each, or more, on the practice squad. That way they can put Gallimore and Goodwin back on the roster.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Fehoko WR probably not going to beat out the 3 new WR's

It's basically whether he can block and play that Noah Brown role or not as to whether he'll make the team, I think.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

I could see Bones giving Deuce plenty of kick return duties in preseason to get Vaughn adjusted and working at special teams,..the same way Bones has adjusted
Rico and Malik in kick returns. I'd expect Deuce to adjust and do well in that area.

Punt returns are a different story, and while Deuce has no experience in that area at KSU, that is a strength with Turpin.
and just one year, albeit a year in the NFL, where he is already one of the better return guys in NFL, but where he has had to work
in back to back football league and no time to rest his tiny body, that could've been a toll on him.

In short, I am far more interested in finding a backup punt return guy, in case Turpin is injured,. .than I am trying to find a permanent replacement for a Pro Bowl returner.

Turpin had 3 fumbles on 54 touches. He stinks.

 

[quickccc]

Turpin had 3 fumbles on 54 touches. He stinks.

He stinks, . ..but yet he made the Pro bowl as a returner ?

 

[CowboyRoy]

I agree with you on Jones. I like Davis more than you do, but Jones not only was once a second-round pick, but he does have some skins on the wall despite what happened in KC.

Agreed on Scott, too. I think the Wright experiment ends. He doesn't have the ability to get out of breaks quickly enough in coverage. His long speed is fine. His length is fine. But receivers eat him up on cuts. He's also behind Joseph as a special teams gunner, so Joseph has more value there as well as more to work with if he can get his head to catch up to his physical skills.

Yah I think Wright is toast.

Jones is just an all around type RB that can carry the load if need be. He can run up the middle, block, carry the load. I think they need ONE guy like that on the football team in case Pollard were to go down.

Then you could use Jones and Deuce. Now I would have brought in a better veteran than Jones and I would have drafted a bigger back then deuce in the 4th round instead of the DT guy. Maybe Abanicanda in the 4th. I take Evans in the 6th over Deuce. He went 2 picks after the Cowboys took Deuce.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

He stinks, . ..but yet he made the Pro bowl as a returner ?

There are no good return men because returns have been, effectively, officiated and coached out of the game. Turpin had 0 touchdowns and, on average yards per return of players with at least 5 returns, ranked:

KR - 18th, PR - 15th

He barely has any business on an NFL roster, let alone in the pro bowl.

 

[quickccc]

There are no good return men because returns have been, effectively, officiated and coached out of the game. Turpin had 0 touchdowns and, on average yards per return of players with at least 5 returns, ranked:

KR - 18th, PR - 15th

He barely has any business on an NFL roster, let alone in the pro bowl.

After seeing Pollard a couple of years ago as a kick returner including a TD run back vs Radas, i'm still in the mix for a potent returner.

Turpin had a long punt return of 52 yards .. and 24.2 yards per kick return including a 63 yrd run back.

I'm very interesting to see what he can could after an offseason strengthening program such as the Cowboys training staff, and the substantial break his smallish body needs
to replenish his strength again. Especially in his legs, where he's too easily tripped up, after what looks like he could've took run backs to the house several times.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

After seeing Pollard a couple of years ago as a kick returner including a TD run back vs Radas, i'm still in the mix for a potent returner.

Turpin had a long punt return of 52 yards .. and 24.2 yards per kick return including a 63 yrd run back.

I'm very interesting to see what he can could after an offseason strengthening program such as the Cowboys training staff, and the substantial break his smallish body needs
to replenish his strength again. Especially in his legs, where he's too easily tripped up, after what looks like he could've took run backs to the house several times.

Turpin is too old to really think that an offseason is going to change his body much. He turns 27 in August, he is what he is.

 

[quickccc]

Turpin is too old to really think that an offseason is going to change his body much. He turns 27 in August, he is what he is.

Age 27,.. not 37.
And he doesn't look like an old in the tooth.
If he does good for next 2-3 seasons we've got outta him what he was worth.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Age 27,.. not 37.
And he doesn't look like an old in the tooth.
If he does good for next 2-3 seasons we've got outta him what he was worth.

At age 27 guys are done growing. Yea he can put in work in the offseason to strengthen his legs, but he's not going to change his body as it relates to performance all that much.

TP came a long, long way physically as a runner from when he was a rookie to last year, but he just turned 26. Turpin's missed that sort of development window.