55 passes vs 23 runs???

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T-RO;3123704 said:
This thread is proof positive the Garrett critics are morons.

Good gawd. We didn't run enough. Because of some mantra. Because of something I heard in NFL Sunday school.

Two yards per carry and I want some more....

You people are an absolute embarrassment to anything called a brain.

You don't watch much football. It's obvious. Next time watch the whole game instead of glancing over while playing your PS3.

BTW, Madden IS NOT REAL FOOTBALL. You don't win in the Real NFL by passing almost 3 times as much as you run. Don't take my word for it, though. You can look it up on the internet for yourself.
 

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The i-formation guy is a Bob Sturm disciple...the same Bob Sturm who studied football while never playing the game but who learned while going to Bob Jones university...where (I'm not making this up because I dated a woman who went there) you need a pass to leave campus. (It's 100 times more conservative than any Southern Baptist Church).

The same Bob Sturm whom Troy Aikman very gently put in his place in a phone call last week.
 

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o9rady;3123735 said:
You don't win in the Real NFL by passing almost 3 times as much as you run.

How much you run or pass usually doesn't matter. It almost always comes down to how well you pass the ball, no matter how many times you pass it.
 

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Romo 2 Austin;3123350 said:
Your running game is shut down, so the solution you see is run more? Good idea! Then when we have run 35 times in this game and still only have around 60 yards, you go, Why did we run so much? Idiot garrett!


Com'on man.


Not run more, run correctly. The Giants are sweet in the gut due to injury. We didn't go in between the tackles. I think we fell in love with the sweeps and tosses because we saw Denver light the Giants up the week before with it and we thought we could do the same. The Giants probably practiced that up the butt thinking we saw that and would try the same. Delayed and mid draws I think we would have done better.
 

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o9rady;3123735 said:
BTW, Madden IS NOT REAL FOOTBALL. You don't win in the Real NFL by passing almost 3 times as much as you run.

I've never played a single second of Madden football or any other NFL video game (not in the last twenty years).

Want to try again?

The last Super Bowl-------if you watched----was played with 80% passing plays and passing yardage. A horde of teams won today by passing more than 65% of the time.

Try again. Stop hyperventilating. Try to think CLEARLY.
 

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Our OL is pathetic right now. Trying to establish the run is futile.
 

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o9rady;3123612 said:
Ok, dude. Since you just demonstrated you don't know a damn thing about football, I'll educate you.

The reason why Garrett's run game failed today was because we only ran 1 time from the I-formation. Sorry, I forgot that you're football challenged: The I-formation is when the QB is under center with a fullback directly behind him and the tailback directly behind the fullback. The 1 run from the I today netted 9 yards.

What went wrong today was that Garrett's run calls were otherwise delayed handoff and from the shotgun (he had a couple tosses and Razorback sets each, too). Why that is a problem is that when your running a delayed handoff or from the shotgun, the offensive line basically pass blocks to 'sell' pass to the defense to trick them. So our offensive line was not attacking the defense, but defending against the rush instead. Since our line is not firing off the ball at the snap, it is easier for the Giants defensive line to shoot the gap and meet the running back in the hole. I know this is probably all way over your head, but keep watching football and hopefully someday you'll understand more about the game than we get 6 points for touchdowns and 3 points for field goals.

Clearly then, we should simply run the Power I, Wing-T, or Wishbone Triple Option. Championship.
 

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o9rady;3123330 said:
Garrett screwed us again!! Look, I know that we only had 45 yards rushing on 23 carries. The problem is the way we run. ONE run from the i-formation? Garrett has NO CLUE how to call on offense. Almost all Cowboy runs today were either delays, tosses or Razorback set. Its frigging ridiculous!! This team should follow the Commanders' lead and strip Garrett of play calling duties and let someone who doesn't have their head up their butt call the offense!!
Don't talk about time of possession either. This was a game just like the last Giants game: a game the Cowboys should have DOMINATED by running the ball and controlling the clock.

Hey Garrett, ESTABLISH the run THEN you can try to work the ball down the field.

I'm at the point with this idiot that if he comes back next year, I may not even watch anymore. He' worse than David Shula. Hell, bring back Chan instead of Jason. Bring back Barry and run the wishbone even. Anything will be better than the red headed idiot!!!

Here we go again.

Posts like this are some of the most ignorant crap to read after a game.
 

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AdamJT13;3123787 said:
How much you run or pass usually doesn't matter. It almost always comes down to how well you pass the ball, no matter how many times you pass it.

And we passed VERY well today, and still lost.

This team just finds ways to lose.

It's a ****ing embarassment and to be honest I'm done giving a rats *** about this team the rest of the season.

I'm going to go to Miami, hit the town, the beaches, and enjoy my Hawkeyes beat some Yellowjacket ***, and be a happy camper.
 

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the reason why Jason went to the pass was because we ran 23 times for 45 yards and our longest run was 8 yards...

We should worry more about lossing to a team that had lost 5 out of their last 6 games... and giving up a 29 yard run against a guy with 2 bad ankles, a 74 yard TD catch to a 260 pound RB and 2 TD in the last 2 munutes of the second quarter...

Wade Phillips no idea on what it takes to win big game...
 

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NextGenBoys;3123865 said:
And we passed VERY well today, and still lost.

We lost because the Giants passed it better, believe it or not. And it's mostly because of Jacobs' 74-yard TD catch.

The highest correlation to winning of any statistic in the NFL (other than points scored, of course) is net yards per pass or adjusted net yards per pass. The Giants averaged a whopping 9.1 net yards per pass play. We averaged only 6.6. Even adjusting for Eli's interception, the Giants still averaged more. Between that and Hixon's punt return, those are the reasons we lost.
 

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AdamJT13;3123963 said:
We lost because the Giants passed it better, believe it or not. And it's mostly because of Jacobs' 74-yard TD catch.

The highest correlation to winning of any statistic in the NFL (other than points scored, of course) is net yards per pass or adjusted net yards per pass. The Giants averaged a whopping 9.1 net yards per pass play. We averaged only 6.6. Even adjusting for Eli's interception, the Giants still averaged more. Between that and Hixon's punt return, those are the reasons we lost.

That Jacobs TD was close to the backbreaker (reminded me of 72yd td run against Bal last year) but the final backbreaker was the punt return for TD (reminded me of the 82 yard td run)
 

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Haley94;3123357 said:
I don't blame Garret for that in this game. They were geared to stop the run.
co sign

i complained about him not running the ball in other games but today he had no choice

our o-line was manhandled at the line of scrimmage and the giants were giving up big plays in the passing game

but at the same time garrett is to blame for our struggling run game partly

we hardly ever run out of the I-formation or call run plays to our backs strengths. we should be running counters with felix often trying to get him on the edges

instead we see a lot of unconventional run formations. shot gun draws, delays and razor back plays.

also him and wade continually giving barber the bulk of the carries when they see injuries have slowed him is plain stupid.

choice needs to be worked in more
 

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GOLDENCHILD1688;3124047 said:
co sign

i complained about him not running the ball in other games but today he had no choice

our o-line was manhandled at the line of scrimmage and the giants were giving up big plays in the passing game

but at the same time garrett is to blame for our struggling run game partly

we hardly ever run out of the I-formation or call run plays to our backs strengths. we should be running counters with felix often trying to get him on the edges

instead we see a lot of unconventional run formations. shot gun draws, delays and razor back plays.

also him and wade continually giving barber the bulk of the carries when they see injuries have slowed him is plain stupid.

choice needs to be worked in more

I don't blame Garret at all for this one. I thought for sure that the Oline would be pumped after Adams got the cheap shot from Tuck. Instead the Oline got manhandled. I really wish this Oline would play nasty but I guess despite their size, they are more of a finese line like the Colts.
 

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o9rady;3123690 said:
We shouldn't complain about the offense? Really? I guess you like that 7 points we put on Washington, the 7 points we put on Green Bay, the 10 points we scored on Denver and the 17 we scored against KC? This offense is The Definition of Inconsistent. The Reason: Garrett NEVER tries to establish a running game. Until this team comes out and establishes a run, you can expect more inconsistency, another crappy December and a quick exit if the Cowboys are lucky enough to make the playoffs.

:rolleyes:
 

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AdamJT13;3123963 said:
We lost because the Giants passed it better, believe it or not. And it's mostly because of Jacobs' 74-yard TD catch.

The highest correlation to winning of any statistic in the NFL (other than points scored, of course) is net yards per pass or adjusted net yards per pass. The Giants averaged a whopping 9.1 net yards per pass play. We averaged only 6.6. Even adjusting for Eli's interception, the Giants still averaged more. Between that and Hixon's punt return, those are the reasons we lost.
Those 3rd & long conversions over the middle were killers. Scandrick was making effort but just not good enough. AND on those plays, literally one second longer (tighter coverage) and eli is either sacked or throwing the ball away.
 
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