660 IN NewYork: Jets In Serious Talks With Pack To Get Farve..

[GimmeTheBall!]

Not sure you guys heard but a radio station in NewYork 660 said that the Jets and Pack in serious talks that will send Lord Farve to the NY.

They said that there could be a deal in place by midnight tonight or as early as tomorrow morning. Take it for what it is, I guess.

Rubbish.
Brett Favre has said he wants to win a Super Bowl. that means Dallas, Indy, New England etc.
So that leaves the Jets out, right?
He wouldn't go back on his word, would he?

 

[ZeroClub]

ESPN's now saying Favre's seriously considering the retirement deal that will involve a payout over 10 years, merchandising, etc. The reporter said it was confirmed with seperate sources and that is the way it looks like this mess will be resolved.

We shall see, I guess. If that's what happens you gotta give Favre credit for being very savvy. He gets $20 million out of the Packers after he retired.

Interesting. I don't understand the Packers' motive, though.

Why would the Packers pass on a draft pick (compensation for Favre) and give away an extra twenty million just to keep Farve retired?

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

this is actually great news...hopefully this will reduced the amount of gift wrapped games the Pats get in there division every year

 

[FloridaRob]

...has to look at this different. It is money spent that affects a team's roster and the competitive balance in the league.

The Packers shouldn't be allowed to pay someone to keep them off another team's roster.

Other employees in the organization would not tip the competitive balance on the field so I would expect the league to consider that part of the salary cap that affect football.

If I was the Vikings or the Bears or any other team in the league I would argue for a salary cap accounting of the retirement money.

it is a personal service-marketing agreement. Dan Marino had one when he retired as well as several other players. It was being discussed with Favre right after he retired. It was done then to show the Packers commitment to FAvre for future. While it looks like a bribe and smells like a bribe and might be a bribe, the truth also is that the Packers were going to do this kind of deal regardeless and is on the table even if decides to play again.

 

[Yeagermeister]

I have been at my job for almost 12 yrs. I wonder if I can get this kind of a deal if I retire then decide I want to come back?

 

[TheSkaven]

The Packers are out of their minds.

Prediction...When Mike McCarthy is done as Green Bay Head Coach this off season will be brought up constantly.

I will not be at all surprised if we are facing one of the two rookies at QB for Green Bay by week 3.

I am in complete agreement.

Could you just imagine if Troy Aikman had the kind of season Brett Favre had last year, and the team wouldn't take him back and instead wanted to go with an unproven young quarterback? Especially a team coming off an NFC Championship game who is loaded for another run at it.

If someone tried to pull that here, we'd all have pitchforks and napalm.

 

[FloridaRob]

I have been at my job for almost 12 yrs. I wonder if I can get this kind of a deal if I retire then decide I want to come back?

I would think that if you are the Bill Gates of your job, you could probably get anything you wanted. If you are the Steve Erckle of your job, you might have a problem.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I am in complete agreement.

Could you just imagine if Troy Aikman had the kind of season Brett Favre had last year, and the team wouldn't take him back and instead wanted to go with an unproven young quarterback? Especially a team coming off an NFC Championship game who is loaded for another run at it.

If someone tried to pull that here, we'd all have pitchforks and napalm.

Yea can you imagine if Aikman had a pro bowl year in 2000 and the next year Jerry said you couldn't come back because Quincy Carter is the Cowboys' future? Their is no guarantee that Rodgers is going to be anything in the NFL. When you have a shot at the SB, you take it. You never know when you'll get another opportunity. If I was a Packers' fan I'd be upset.

 

[Yeagermeister]

I would think that if you are the Bill Gates of your job, you could probably get anything you wanted. If you are the Steve Erckle of your job, you might have a problem.

damn

 

[Cochese]

Yea can you imagine if Aikman had a pro bowl year in 2000 and the next year Jerry said you couldn't come back because Quincy Carter is the Cowboys' future? Their is no guarantee that Rodgers is going to be anything in the NFL. When you have a shot at the SB, you take it. You never know when you'll get another opportunity. If I was a Packers' fan I'd be upset.

But Troy is a class act and he wouldnt put the franchise in such a bad situation.

Im fine with this, let Farve go throw soul crushing interceptions on an AFC team, that should be interesting.

 

[SacredStar]

ESPN's now saying Favre's seriously considering the retirement deal that will involve a payout over 10 years, merchandising, etc. The reporter said it was confirmed with seperate sources and that is the way it looks like this mess will be resolved.

We shall see, I guess. If that's what happens you gotta give Favre credit for being very savvy. He gets $20 million out of the Packers after he retired.

Mort just said Favre will probably take the retirement deal if Green Bay ups it to $25 mil.

He said there is no way Favre plays for the Jets.

 

[Cochese]

Mort just said Favre will probably take the retirement deal if Green Bay ups it to $25 mil.

But but but..HE LOVES THE GAME!!

 

[theebs]

Mort just said Favre will probably take the retirement deal if Green Bay ups it to $25 mil.

He said there is no way Favre plays for the Jets.

wow.

and the opinons of favre are going to go right down the tubes.

Being bought off? I cant think of any thing lower than that.

I respect owens for his driveway pushups more than I do a guy who takes a payoff.

simply amazing how this has all happened.

and all the while I have been wondering what does Deanna think?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Favre has always been phony and self-serving... He's just gotten a pass from the media for it up to now.

If I'm the Pack, no way do I pay him to go away. No way. I either pay him to sit, or trade him away. Basically, I tell him that he can go play in NY or Tampa, or he can rot on my bench -- his choice.

The only reason GB hasn't done this yet is because they fear the fan backlash. But from what I've heard, the fans are getting sick of Favre anyway.

 

[FloridaRob]

Found this little nugget this morning on another forum. There are a lot of parallels between Marino and Favres retirement

I found this link lifted from the Miami Herald back in 2000.

http://www.deltastar.net/dolphins/right_thing.html

Wayne Huizenga and Dan Marino are supposed to get together for golf in Stuart today. The play will be casual. The stakes will be anything but. To so many anxious thousands of South Florida football fans and citizens in general, no final round ever played at the Masters or U.S. Open has offered up a result as important.

This is Huizenga's final chance to stop the hemorrhaging that threatens to leave Marino estranged from the club he has served with such loyalty and splendor for so long.

This is Huizenga's final chance to stop the hemorrhaging that threatens to leave an enormous chunk of Dolfans feeling disenfranchised, betrayed by the club they've poured money and heart into for so long.

This is Huizenga's final chance to do the right thing.

The golf on H. Wayne's private playground may include the perfunctory small talk and chitchat, but at its core this round is a four-hour business meeting at which Marino's NFL future likely will be decided.

Huizenga has closed many a deal while ostensibly chasing par.

He needs to close this deal fast -- and make certain No. 13 is again wearing aqua in September, and not the ghastly bruise of a color the Minnesota Vikings call purple.

The decision is pragmatic and emotional, and hugely both.

It is pragmatic because Marino, even diminished, still is a better QB than anyone currently on Miami's roster. You do not give up on the game's all-time passing leader, discard him like some career journeyman, because, coming off an injury, he had his first poor season in 17.

The decision is emotional because this is The Franchise. He is not just another player. He does deserve extraordinary accommodation. And the Dolphins may discover, too late, the profound negative impact of letting Marino go in such a mishandled manner.

Huizenga's legacy as a sports baron may depend on how he handles this. His dismantling of the 1997 World Series champion Marlins he then owned was a public relations disaster he managed to survive. I'm not sure if this one is.

Does he wish to be the owner who did nothing while his new coaching staff allowed Marino to turn purple and the Dolphins to turn red?

The Dolphins are now claiming Marino always has been welcome to come back and compete again -- which would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.

Two things are ludicrous about that.

1) It's a lie. New coach Dave Wannstedt has avoided every opportunity, and there have been many, to make Marino feel welcome. He has done anything but offer a curt ``Good riddance!''

(Wannstedt happened to be playing golf himself Monday, with Dolphins suite-holders, the most monied of fans. Convincing them Jay Fiedler is better than Dan Marino must have been even tougher than bagging birdies.)

2) Marino should not have to compete for his job. He should be made to keep it based on performance, as always. But he damned well should be No. 1 coming into training camp -- especially against a motley, utterly unproven quartet like Damon Huard, Fiedler, Jim Druckenmiller and Scott Zolak.

Vikings coach Dennis Green, who has offered Marino the starting job up there, understands this, even if Wannstedt and company do not. Green knows -- even if so many blinded by Marino's one off year and age do not -- that a fiercely competitive, fiercely proud man with something to prove can be an exceptionally potent weapon.

The Vikes and Dolphins meet this coming season. If Marino winds up in purple, I wonder if Huizenga has any clue how many Dolphins fans would be rooting for Marino to beat the team that filed for divorce?

Dennis Green, by the way, has been in the playoffs seven of his eight seasons in Minnesota.

Another oh-by-the-way: Huard, Fiedler, Druckenmiller and Zolak have a combined 19 career touchdown passes. That's a mere 401 behind Marino.

It is up to Huizenga now to override Wannstedt's painfully obvious wishes and re-sign Marino before it's too late.

There is no question Dan immensely prefers to continue with Miami. This is his home, in every way. Minnesota offers Marino a wonderful opportunity -- including two receivers, in Randy Moss and Cris Carter, who are a more potent pair than even Marks Duper and Clayton were, and a runner, in Robert Smith, more gifted than any Marino has ever had here -- but Marino certainly would prefer not to start all over on an artificial turf home field. Neither does Dan's wife, Claire, wish for the move.

That is how ferociously Marino wants to play another season, though.

Dolphins president Eddie Jones said he was ``flabbergasted'' Dan might join the Vikings? I'm flabbergasted Jones would be flabbergasted.

It has been staggeringly apparent Marino wants to keep playing. That's why he voided his Dolphins contract and became a free agent. That's why he didn't retire when, initially, interest seemed negligible.

And that's why it has been such an embarrassing joke for the Dolphins to claim the decision is ``up to Dan'' while all along giving no indication whatsoever they want him back.

In effect, they've been praying Marino, lacking an offer from another team, simply would retire.

Now that the Vikings have emerged, the onus squarely is on Huizenga.

So what will it be, H.?

Is Dan Marino still and forever a Miami Dolphin? Or not?

The ball is on the tee, H.

You're driving.

 

[cowboys2233]

lol where are the bears at. I mean really, seems like a good fit to me.

Absolutely, considering they have no receivers, no running game and basically suck. Yeah, I can see why Favre would jump at that chance.

 

[cowboys2233]

Favre has always been phony and self-serving... He's just gotten a pass from the media for it up to now.

If I'm the Pack, no way do I pay him to go away. No way. I either pay him to sit, or trade him away. Basically, I tell him that he can go play in NY or Tampa, or he can rot on my bench -- his choice.

The only reason GB hasn't done this yet is because they fear the fan backlash. But from what I've heard, the fans are getting sick of Favre anyway.

Fans are fickle like that. They may be getting sick of him, but if the Pack start the season like 2-3, you'd be amazed at how quickly they'll look over at that bench and get right back aboard the Favre bandwagon.

PR-wise, it's not a smart thing for the Pack to do. Currently, they seem to be winning the PR game (although the whole $20 million paying him off thing was about the most profoundly idiotic thing they could have done to that end), but if they tell Favre to come in and ignore him, not give him any reps, etc. they're going to come off looking like the selfish, immature ones.