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stasheroo;2068509 said:
Just curious, would you also pay the new $9 million + a year contract it would also take?

Over the same for RW in a heartbeat.
 

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stasheroo;2068580 said:
Not if it meant not being able to re-sign Barber, Hamlin, Owens, Newman, or Ware I wouldn't.

A lot of tough financial decisions coming up the way it is, paying the huge price for Chad Johnson would make those decisions tougher.

They why do you want RW? Its not as if hes going to be any cheaper.
 

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Chad Johnson may get his walking papers after the '08 season, but why in the world does anyone believe that the Bengals will get rid of him before then? Cincinnati is the same team which did not bow down to Corey Dillon's trade demands. After they set that precedent, it's logical to assume that they will not allow Chad Johnson to get his wish also. What leverage does he have over the team that'll force their hand? What? Is he going to pout more publicly than he already has? Scary.
 

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I remember one interview where he threatened to air his team mates dirty laundry via ESPN. He said it would suck if some of the guys wives found out about what they have been doing on the road in national TV...
 

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utrunner07;2068713 said:
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My thoughts exactly...the quicker all this Chad Johnson crap dies away the better...bringing him aboard would be MUCH MUCH more harmful than beneficial

Exactly. He'd be another TO all over again.
 

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Hostile;2067927 said:
I would much rather have Roy Williams than Chad Johnson and it has nothing to do with the University of Texas.

First he is 4 years younger. I would like a WR who can come in and take over the #1 role of TO and man that for 6 or 7 years at least. Otherwise all we are doing is looking for a #1 WR sooner. I would like to not have to look for a while. Chad Johnson is a #2 WR. Houshmanzadeh is the #1 in Cincy. Chad benefits from that. Williams is the #1 guy in Detroit. He is the one defenses are most likely to double team and he still puts up numbers.

I think they are about equal talent but one has a far superior QB. That would be Chad Johnson. No one can tell me they think Kitna is better than Palmer and keep a straight face.

Put Roy Williams in our Offense and he will be better than he already is because they cannot ever double team him. I think he's easily capable of double digit TDs and if teams double team him or TO they will be committing suicide.

Finally there's this whole off season spectacle going on. I love Chad Johnson and think he's hilarious, but I do not respect the way he is tearing his team apart. Meanwhile Roy Williams has said the right things and for the most part not drawn attention to anything. On a team that already has TO, the Tony and Jessica paparazzi, and now Pacman Jones, I just would prefer not to add Chad's antics.

If we get Chad I will be stoked. I think WR opposite TO is the missing piece. I just would prefer the younger guy who passionately loves this team.
bingo
 

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sonnyboy;2068408 said:
Not looking to pick on you cause your avatar kicks ***. But you're way off the mark .

Think a lot of guys in your camp are missing one thing.
Thats just how good C. Johnson is.

If you polled 100 GM's and top scouts to list the top 5 WRs.
Base it on what they did last year and what's expected this year.

I'm guessing Chad's on just about every top 5 list. He's that good.

He has a very well rounded game that appeals to all coaches.
He's fast and quick. Tall with long arms and excellent ball skills giving him a huge catching radius. Surprisingly strong and breaks press coverage.
Runs great routes and has great fundamentals. Very natural catching the ball. Just plucks it. Consistent hands and also makes the super catch.

He doesnt have a weakness in his game.


Johnson would team very well with Owens and Witten.

That'd be our best trio since Hill, Pearson and Cosbie.
He has NO YAC ability.
85 even said these very words himself.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2067824 said:
RW is not and will never be the calibre WR that 85 is.

RW is so overrated here its silly. He had one good season and has been hurt every other dating back to college. He is unfocused doesnt practice hard and is a bad route runner.

Give us 85 for the next 4 years and well be putting those Pats offensive records to shame.

85 is good for 30 more catches and 500 more yards a season and that is year after year. Take away RWs only good year and his production is putrid. Take away 85s best year and his production is the same.

RW cannot hold 85's jock.

Gotta agree with most of what is said here. I don't want Chad because I believe him+TO is like mixing oil and water. Give me Anquan Boldin any day over Roy Williams (skill) or Chad Johnson (personality).
 

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no to CJ

we all want to win but at some point you have to strike a balance between the desire to win and the image of the team. also, i dont care how many resources we have, there are only so many 'high maintenance' players that we can have on our roster before it has a negative impact on team chemistry and the character of the team, we already have more than our fair share in TO (whatever you say about his attitute he is high maintenance), tank, and potentially pacman.
 
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