9 in the box

[Sydla]

Is he saying it was mostly a true 6 man box we had trouble running against?

 

[bayeslife]

Garrett and Linehn will proactively quit the running game in light of this

They won't even try knowing that's how they'll be stopped. Which will, of course, be the reason we are stopped

Generally, when teams are behind on the scoreboard they will have more pass attempts to catch up. Not only was the running game getting stuffed from the start, but the defense was letting Denver walk down the field on every drive. This is exactly what happened in the playoffs last year.

So yes, if we are unable to find success running early and converting first downs against the Cardinals, and additionally they are also getting 7 points every time they touch the ball, expect the same thing to happen. Strategically, you would never want to continue balanced play calling.

 

[Corso]

Every time I look at the title of this thread I can't help but think:
Two in the box!
Ready to go!
We be fast and

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Cardinals have a good Dline and some pro bowlers in the secondary.We saw what dkemidiche did to our backups in the pre season.

Cardinal's do not have a Von Miller on there team.

He wasn't "bad" at all. He held Miller in check until the game was totally out of hand. And even then, Miller was jumping offsides left and right selling out for a sack. And those he got were coverage sacks, not "beating" Collins outright.

On any list of worries, Collins name is waaaaaaayyyyy down that list.

I agree. Collins isn't a problem. The sacks look bad if you look at the stats.....but he did a good job against arguably the best pass rusher in the league.

It should get much easier for him here on out.

 

[DFWJC]

Teams tried it all last year, and literally only three teams had any semblance of success. Almost nobody has the DBs to successfully do this.

I honestly can't believe the nonsense I'm reading. It's like nobody here knows anything about football. This was tried ALL LAST YEAR. The Baltimore Ravens stacked the box all game and we KILLED their secondary.

This

People underestimated Denvers overall D and especially the secondary....and at home with the noise.
They match up VERY well with Dallas' offense

 

[hairic]

Those 7s were when there were only 7 gaps to defend. They were still focusing on the run.

 

[Corso]

Cardinal's do not have a Von Miller on there team.




I agree. Collins isn't a problem. The sacks look bad if you look at the stats.....but he did a good job against arguably the best pass rusher in the league.

It should get much easier for him here on out.

He got the best pass rusher in the game to get the yips. Dude was getting called for offsides over and over trying to gain ground on Collins.
Let's call respect there.

 

[Nav22]

My very favorite postgame complaint from armchair Offensive Coordinators:

"We should move Dez around more and send him on more shallow crossing routes!"

As if more short completions to Dez is the answer. He had a ton of those yesterday.

 

[Corso]

Those 7s were when there were only 7 gaps to defend. They were still focusing on the run.

Denver was completely selling out on the run all game long and they had the personel to make it work.
You have to give credit to Denver's talent and their gameplan.

They beat the stuffing out of the Cowboys.

 

[cej757]

lucky not too many teams have the secondary that the broncos have. We should of ran alot of patriots style pick plays. We ran zero I believe. Our offense is out dated and our defense is very conservative.

Ray Lewis said this about Garrett's offense about 10 years ago.

 

[endersdragon]

I was yelling at the TV all day "screen pass" either bubble or conventional would have worked. We needed to punish them for having that many men up but we never called the one play that might have helped.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Ray Lewis said this about Garrett's offense about 10 years ago.

So was TO lol

 

[gimmesix]

The Broncos knew they had to stop the run, which they did, but I didn’t see any extra help in the box to do so. Maybe the film will show different, but it appeared that the Broncos front seven physically took it to this Cowboys offensive line, which doesn’t happen often

I'm pretty sure they were running an eighth man up on early downs.

 

[drawandstrike]

I guess that entire last season was an illusion. We didn't have the NFL's leading rusher with teams stacking the box to stop the run. Including just last week when Zeke rushed for 100+. Yeah. That fat guy.

I must have imagined all of this in a dream.

Thank you, Denver, for waking me up.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Here's the break-down of how many guys were in the box on Elliott's rushing attempts (courtesy of Brian Broadus):

8 in the box: 5 times.

7 in the box: 2 times.

6 in the box: 1 time.

9 in the box : 1 time (on the goal line).


1 time.

The majority of the time it was 8 guys in the box. And quite frankly if this offense can't generate some running success against 8 guys in the box they should just fold up the tent and go home. The Cowboys in the early 90's faced 8 guys in the box consistently... And beat it.

 

[drawandstrike]

Here's the break-down of how many guys were in the box on Elliott's rushing attempts (courtesy of Brian Broadus):

8 in the box: 5 times.

7 in the box: 2 times.

6 in the box: 1 time.

9 in the box : 1 time (on the goal line).


1 time.

The majority of the time it was 8 guys in the box. And quite frankly if this offense can't generate some running success against 8 guys in the box they should just fold up the tent and go home. The Cowboys in the early 90's faced 8 guys in the box consistently... And beat it.

So last season when we had the NFL's leading rusher, nobody ever stacked the box against us and it was some kinda fluke. Is this the narrative that's developing? Because I can't believe this.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

So last season when we had the NFL's leading rusher, nobody ever stacked the box against us and it was some kinda fluke. Is this the narrative that's developing? Because I can't believe this.

Agreed.

I'm pinning yesterday's running game failure on two things:

-The Cowboy offensive line and TE's had a horrible day... period.
-The Bronco DL was top notch.

In addition I think the Bronco's were amped up and the Cowboys were flat.

I think the excuse of "too many guys in the box" is bunk. It was more of a case of the Cowboy offensive line (and TE's) sucking.

 

[windward]

get used to it folks. This is what we will see from here out until the team proves it can beat it

*counts to 10 slowly*

 

[windward]

My very favorite postgame complaint from armchair Offensive Coordinators:

"We should move Dez around more and send him on more shallow crossing routes!"

As if more short completions to Dez is the answer. He had a ton of those yesterday.

We need to call the plays that work and remove the bad plays that don't.

Coaching iz EZ.

 

[Rockdoc]

the broncos almost always had a safety deep. so with 2 CBs that means 8 in the box.
thats what almost every team will do. the only time you see cover zero is against a shotgun and not all nine rush.
we normally beat 8 in the box, but not sunday.
just have to play better. the broncos didnt do anything unusual.
we just didnt play