A better draft strategy than standing pat in draft order

[TheFutballFan]

trade up and get Abdul Carter.

 

[CowboyoWales]

No player we could spare. Rings anything in a trade. More bodies don’t mean more talent. 12 gets us a day one starter if we don’t mess it up

Conversely, there's no Micah/CeeDee difference maker. Our weakness is the depth, not top end talent.
This draft falls ideally for our needs, with depth in Rds 2-4 in positions we are desperate for. The package in the Chiefs proposal (on the other thread) would be a no brainer for a team that's looking to 2026/27 to be anywhere near competing.

 

[blueblood70]

Conversely, there's no Micah/CeeDee difference maker. Our weakness is the depth, not top end talent.
This draft falls ideally for our needs, with depth in Rds 2-4 in positions we are desperate for. The package in the Chiefs proposal (on the other thread) would be a no brainer for a team that's looking to 2026/27 to be anywhere near competing.

Even if both of you are exaggerating I mean you're basically wrong and you're right trying to tell me that at 12 you don't see a difference maker you don't think Ted McMillan or if AJ is there I mean you're saying there's nobody there that can be either one of those guys you don't think golden can be that guy you don't know none of us really know that draft is not perfect but again he's also wrong because you could probably get the same guy at 12 as you can get at 15 move down three spots pick up an extra pick.. The key to this is finding the right team you know the correct team that not only help you trade down because they want to trade up you got to make sure you don't go down too far you have to understand the teams below you which one needs that player that you're targeting 3 spots later or five spots later..

So, the gap say between AJ, Hampton, and Henderson not that big just like the gap between Tet, Burden, and Golden also not that big.. these are difference makers but there's no guarantee they will be that, but you're also saying they're just for depth, that's not true nobody knows what these players are going to turn out to be they just have a good idea how they're going to fit the team but we need a starting running back and even though the receivers counted on as a wr2 that doesn't mean he's not a starter..

So I think everybody's overthinking this it would be smart to take a guy at 12 and not move down if he is what you think he is and you don't want to lose him but if most of those guys are gone and you think you could get your target 3 to 4 spots down then you make that trade and go down both can be true and work for the boys..

The biggest mistake is if that's what our GM is thinking like you this is just another depth draft no that was the draft a couple of seasons ago twenty twenty three was it mazi Schoonmaker and Overshown 123?
They cannot do that again yes Overshown going to be a great player, but he's injured, that draft is just for backups is not going to work again, this cannot be what they're thinking, there's a lot of talent in the 1st 3 rounds and it's not really just for depth...



could be starting Corner, DT-NT, WR or RB.. So I can get with either one of these arguments....

 

[conner01]

Conversely, there's no Micah/CeeDee difference maker. Our weakness is the depth, not top end talent.
This draft falls ideally for our needs, with depth in Rds 2-4 in positions we are desperate for. The package in the Chiefs proposal (on the other thread) would be a no brainer for a team that's looking to 2026/27 to be anywhere near competing.

Conversely, there's no Micah/CeeDee difference maker. Our weakness is the depth, not top end talent.
This draft falls ideally for our needs, with depth in Rds 2-4 in positions we are desperate for. The package in the Chiefs proposal (on the other thread) would be a no brainer for a team that's looking to 2026/27 to be anywhere near competing.

i don’t know that teams thought lamb was as good as he is

 

[CowboyoWales]

Even if both of you are exaggerating I mean you're basically wrong and you're right trying to tell me that at 12 you don't see a difference maker you don't think Ted McMillan or if AJ is there I mean you're saying there's nobody there that can be either one of those guys you don't think golden can be that guy you don't know none of us really know that draft is not perfect but again he's also wrong because you could probably get the same guy at 12 as you can get at 15 move down three spots pick up an extra pick.. The key to this is finding the right team you know the correct team that not only help you trade down because they want to trade up you got to make sure you don't go down too far you have to understand the teams below you which one needs that player that you're targeting 3 spots later or five spots later..

So, the gap say between AJ, Hampton, and Henderson not that big just like the gap between Tet, Burden, and Golden also not that big.. these are difference makers but there's no guarantee they will be that, but you're also saying they're just for depth, that's not true nobody knows what these players are going to turn out to be they just have a good idea how they're going to fit the team but we need a starting running back and even though the receivers counted on as a wr2 that doesn't mean he's not a starter..

So I think everybody's overthinking this it would be smart to take a guy at 12 and not move down if he is what you think he is and you don't want to lose him but if most of those guys are gone and you think you could get your target 3 to 4 spots down then you make that trade and go down both can be true and work for the boys..

The biggest mistake is if that's what our GM is thinking like you this is just another depth draft no that was the draft a couple of seasons ago twenty twenty three was it mazi Schoonmaker and Overshown 123?
They cannot do that again yes Overshown going to be a great player, but he's injured, that draft is just for backups is not going to work again, this cannot be what they're thinking, there's a lot of talent in the 1st 3 rounds and it's not really just for depth...



could be starting Corner, DT-NT, WR or RB.. So I can get with either one of these arguments....

Basing the trade down on the 'Chiefs' Scenario, on the other thread. This draft is nothing like the 2023 (Mazi, Schoon) draft. The failure in that draft is that we drafted for pure NEED, as we were admittedly in a position to compete (for Jerry it was All-In).
At the moment we are not one player away and the draft strength, IS THE DEPTH in those areas we need to improve upon (RB, CB, 1-TECH, WR), the draft capital obtained from trading down from no.12 will facilitate all of the above....indeed we'd still have the chance (if we fancied) to draft a Burden or Golden at the end of the first. Indeed, on a basic level (using the 'Chiefs' scenario), could draft say a Burden and then packaging our 2nd, with the obtained 2nd or 4th to get the RB of our choice.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Knowing us it's a major major need they'll wait until the 5th round

 

[Acceptablename]

The Cowboys enter the upcoming draft with 10 of the draft’s 257 picks. With holes at almost every position group on this roster, and with this organization’s refusal to take free agency as a serious way to upgrade the roster, we need a plausible approach that can upgrade this team quickly in the upcoming 2025 draft. Here are the Cowboys current picks by round:

• Round 1: No. 12
• Round 2: No. 44
• Round 3: No. 76
• Round 5: No. 149
• Round 5: No. 174 (compensatory pick)
• Round 6: No. 204 (from Lions)
• Round 6: No. 211 (compensatory pick)
• Round 7: No. 217 (from Titans)
• Round 7: No. 239 (from Packers)
• Round 7: No. 247 (from Chiefs)

It’s great having 10 picks but only 3 of them are in the top 100. That gap between pick 76 and 149 is huge. Having 7 picks in the back end of the draft decreases the chances of immediate impact. Five of those current picks will be in rounds 6 and 7 where most of those players will be STers or deep backups at best.

So…what if we could get aggressive and do a couple of trade downs to give us 5 picks in the top 100 instead of just 3?

• Trade down at 12 to pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick.
• Consider trading a current player on the roster in a draft pick trade.
• Use some of the compensatory picks at the bottom to sweeten a deal.

Bottom line for me: Having only 3 top 100 picks and having 7 picks from rounds 5-7 is not enough help. We should convert some of the compensatory picks and round 6 and 7 picks into less overall picks but more in the top 100.

Without some move ups, our draft picks will mostly be bottom of the talent pool.

My question in weak draft what is more productive.more bullets or fewer bullets slightly higher grade