A Case for Greg Ellis.

[superpunk]

Plain and simple if Ellis was playing with more talent along the line in his career with the Cowboys I think his numbers improve.

If he was good enough, he wouldn't need that extra talent to help him along. Good pass rushers are good pass rushers. They don't need help, or your excuses.

Why the heck do you think the Cowboys have been going Defense year after year?

Because our defense has been poor, we've changed to a 3-4 - somehow all this extra talent hasn't resulted in a sack explosion for Ellis. Wonder why? Maybe it's because your weak excuses don't hold any water.

They are not looking to dump Ellis. I'm not making excuses for Ellis or anyone else that is how you are taking it.

Yes you are. You refuse to acknowledge it, even in the face of the literal definition of the word "excuse", but thats not surprising considering yo've done the same thing with the evidence that refutes your feeble excuse.

As far as I'm concerned if Ellis does not want to be in Dallas then release him.

There's no reason to release him.

 

[Doomsday101]

Right. McGinest still commands optimum attention from opposing OC's.

Which is why his sack total was low. Wait. Demarcus Ware commands optimum attention from opposing OCs, and he managed double digit sacks...

As for not caring about my view point, then why are you in this thread posting back and forth. Whats the point of being here at CBZ anyway, if you aren't going to take opposing view points into consideration? Unless you are just looking for "rah-rah, Go Dallas" and "I agree!11!1oneleven!11!1" type of responses?


And the "Ellis march?" *** are you talking about? I have continued to state we should keep Ellis. And that we need to. He and Ware are our only two proven pass rushers at this point. And since our pass rush has sucked, there is no point in giving up on one of ours until we have proof we have someone else who can legitimately fill that role.

Superpunk has echoed something along those lines as well.

Just because I don't think Ellis is great doesn't mean I want to rid ourselves of him.

Vintage what ever you say, I'm not going to continue to argue with you. You have a different view and evidently you can't understand what I'm saying so I'm not going to waste any more time with you.

 

[Doomsday101]

If he was good enough, he wouldn't need that extra talent to help him along. Good pass rushers are good pass rushers. They don't need help, or your excuses.


Because our defense has been poor, we've changed to a 3-4 - somehow all this extra talent hasn't resulted in a sack explosion for Ellis. Wonder why? Maybe it's because your weak excuses don't hold any water.



Yes you are. You refuse to acknowledge it, even in the face of the literal definition of the word "excuse", but thats not surprising considering yo've done the same thing with the evidence that refutes your feeble excuse.



There's no reason to release him.

Same for you, you don't understand what I'm saying and I'm not making excuses for Ellis or anyone else you continue to take my comments as an excuse if you don't think having more productive players along the line will not help Ellis produce better number then we just disagree.

 

[Vintage]

Vintage what ever you say, I'm not going to continue to argue with you. You have a different view and evidently you can't understand what I'm saying so I'm not going to waste any more time with you.

Obviously I understand it because I am providing counter-examples.

If I didn't understand it, I would fail in providing counterexamples.

 

[superpunk]

Same for you, you don't understand what I'm saying

You apparently have only a cursory understanding of English. I understand what you're saying. You're simply wrong. Maybe you're expressing yourself incorrectly.

and I'm not making excuses for Ellis or anyone else you continue to take my comments as an excuse

Stop dancing. They're excuses, by the very definition of the word.

BTW....

good call on your "I'm taking my ball and going home" idea. If you're not going to be reasonable, and continue to dance around like a crazed chicken, it's probably for the best.

 

[Doomsday101]

You apparently have only a cursory understanding of English. I understand what you're saying. You're simply wrong. Maybe you're expressing yourself incorrectly.


Stop dancing. They're excuses, by the very definition of the word.

BTW....

good call on your "I'm taking my ball and going home" idea. If you're not going to be reasonable, and continue to dance around like a crazed chicken, it's probably for the best.

No excuses but it appears what you want to do it argue and I'm tired of that crud from you. As for your last comment it is not worth responding to and you sure as hell are not worth it.

 

[Vintage]

No excuses but it appears what you want to do it argue and I'm tired of that crud from you. As for your last comment it is not worth responding to and you sure as hell are not worth it.

Are you honestly kidding me?

All we (well, I, at least) wanted was to debate you on this because I obviously disagree. I've given you examples that counter your claim. You've given excuses for why they don't work.

I've addressed why they do work.

And then you tell me you don't care what we think and that I fail to understand your point.

Obviously thats not the case, because otherwise I wouldn't be able to produce counter examples.

Incredibly lame.

 

[superpunk]

No excuses

Stop it already. You're embarrassing yourself, arguing with the dictionary.

As for your last comment it is not worth responding to and you sure as hell are not worth it.

Then take your ball and go home already. Stop with the excuses and address the contrarian evidence, instead of just burying your head in the sand and refusing to acknowledge the overwhelming evidence against your excuses.

 

[superpunk]

Are you honestly kidding me?

All we (well, I, at least) wanted was to debate you on this because I obviously disagree. I've given you examples that counter your claim. You've given excuses for why they don't work.

I've addressed why they do work.

And then you tell me you don't care what we think and that I fail to understand your point.

Obviously thats not the case, because otherwise I wouldn't be able to produce counter examples.

Incredibly lame.

There are several regulars with a habit of saying things that can't be backed up, then when pressed, they simply repeat it over and over again, and if you decide "I'm never gonna give you up", they'll trot out some "agree to disagree" (read: I was wrong and can't admit it), declare that they don't care about your opinion and doggedly stick to their original misinformed idea.

And yeah, I rick roll'd you.

 

[Vintage]

There are several regulars with a habit of saying things that can't be backed up, then when pressed, they simply repeat it over and over again, and if you decide "I'm never gonna give you up", they'll trot out some "agree to disagree" (read: I was wrong and can't admit it), declare that they don't care about your opinion and doggedly stick to their original misinformed idea.

And yeah, I rick roll'd you.

Its hilarious. Because all we were doing was debating him and he runs out.

And no, that doesn't count.

 

[Alexander]

No excuses but it appears what you want to do it argue and I'm tired of that crud from you. As for your last comment it is not worth responding to and you sure as hell are not worth it.

This, fellow posters, is an example of how NOT to handle being proven wrong when you make a "rash statement".