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[Idgit]

You probaly never saw the very personal interview he gave a few months ago. I recomend it to you.

He gives some arguments why he handles the job like he does. And to me thats the right way to do it. Now does it mean he is a great HC ? I don't think so. Too many other things come into play. But your main argument here against him is that he has a robotic demeanor and is too confident for your taste.

Just have a look at it. Maybe it gives you 2 or 3 more aspects of being a HC before posting another comment that shows you never disputed yourself with the requirements that come with the representation of an organisation.

This is good advice. KJJ might not end up convinced, but that interview (I remember the one you're referencing) gave a nice overview of *why* Garrett comports himself publicly the way he does and how he views his obligation to the Cowboys organization. It was also a really interesting interview.

 

[Eskimo]

There are studies that show that people perform better when they are slightly anxious
This is not new or a matter of a different age
Fear and anxiety are great motivators

As I said, the old manner of coaching through fear just isn't going to cut it anymore.

That doesn't mean you don't go out there and get on the players. It just means you can't be a raving maniac in the manner you go about it. You also just can't easily get rid of players that you don't like. You have to find a way to make it work with the guys you have inherited until you get a chance to get rid of the guys you don't want and bring in the guys you do. That is a large part of what the first 2.5 years has been. Instilling his message and finding the guys he wants to go forward with to play his style of football.

If you listen to some of the TC reports and the initial team speech he gave you get the sense that this isn't a lackadaisical camp at all. If you listen to what you have heard about the assistants it sounds like they really get on the players when they make mistakes and JG does, too.

I think Garrett has grown into his new role well but clung to his old roles as OC and playcaller too long. He had success with it in 2010 and thought he could do both jobs well full-time but he couldn't. He now has been freed to get a good overview about all parts of the team. He gets to see that all his assistants are implementing the practice concepts properly and that all the players are getting proper and appropriate feedback about their performance.

I think he has really built a good football team and the world is going to find out how far we have come this year.

I fully expect a playoff appearance if we can have some decent health.

This is going to be a very different football team from any that we have seen since our last SB win. I don't know that we'll exceed the 13 wins from 2007 but I think this team is more complete and will probably win a playoff game or more this year. The keys are DL health and OL performance. I think the Safeties are going to be fine and the CBs and LBs are going to be very good.

 

[KJJ]

You probaly never saw the very personal interview he gave a few months ago. I recomend it to you.

He gives some arguments why he handles the job like he does. And to me thats the right way to do it. Now does it mean he is a great HC ? I don't think so. Too many other things come into play. But your main argument here against him is that he has a robotic demeanor and is too confident for your taste.

Just have a look at it. Maybe it gives you 2 or 3 more aspects of being a HC before posting another comment that shows you never disputed yourself with the requirements that come with the representation of an organisation.

I have no issue with his confidence I said I liked his confidence I suggest you read all my posts carefully. I said: "I like the confidence Garrett displays but would like to see some emotion from him." Confidence is very important to being a successful HC and team. My argument is he doesn't show any emotion and teams have a tendency to reflect their HC. His lack of emotion doesn't appeal to me but that's his personality. I wasn't thrilled with Landry's lack of emotion but his teams responded to him and respected him. He was very business like in his approach and his players bought into it you could see that on game day. I prefer fiery, emotional coaches who will get in the face of a player for repeatedly screwing up.

As a fan it's something you like to see from the HC once in a while at least I do. If the Cowboys were winning and making the playoffs Garrett's stoic robotic demeanor wouldn't be an issue for anyone. Bellichick sounds as lifeless as a corpse during his pressers and is only tolerable to listen to because his teams win but he comes alive on game day. Emotion is a big part of the game which is why we see these pre game fire up huddles by players. You want to see emotion from your fans at the game and from the players on the field. It would nice to see it from your HC but showing emotion isn't part of Garrett's personality.

 

[khiladi]

Calling the Garrett cheerleaders.. Guy could drive a truck straight into a a wall, and they'd blame the wall... BTW, the reason the play-calling has been re-assigned is because Garrett sucked at it and Jerry demoted him.

 

[KJJ]

Got any examples from the last 20 years? It's a different era. You can't compare the two.

Examples of coaches who show emotion and their players fear them? I pointed out Belichick he shows emotion on game day and will tear into a player who isn't getting it done. He even jumps on Brady once in awhile. I'm sure his players fear him he has control of his personnel. Tom Coughlin is a very emotional coach I like his style. You can tell he's not going to take any crap from anyone players or other coaches. I loved the way he got into the face of Greg Schiano after that game last season. Coughlin's players respond to him and it's easy to see why. He commented that he actually had to tone things down a few years back so coaches can change. Lombardi developed his approach over a period of several years.

Players weren't responding to him as an assistant coach with the Giants so he sought out advice from some of the veteran players like Frank Gifford. Jim Harbaugh is a very emotional coach and his players feed off it. His SF team reflects his personality you can tell his players love playing for him. There's been a lot of HC's over the past 20 years who show emotion and their players fear them. For a player to respect and fear their HC coach they have to know it all starts and ends with their HC.

 

[KJJ]

You probaly never saw the very personal interview he gave a few months ago. I recomend it to you.

He gives some arguments why he handles the job like he does. And to me thats the right way to do it. Now does it mean he is a great HC ? I don't think so. Too many other things come into play. But your main argument here against him is that he has a robotic demeanor and is too confident for your taste.

Just have a look at it. Maybe it gives you 2 or 3 more aspects of being a HC before posting another comment that shows you never disputed yourself with the requirements that come with the representation of an organisation.

I don't judge Garrett off of interviews I judge him off of what I see from his team on the field. I'm judging him off wins and losses. He's a great speaker who talks a great game. If coaches were judged off their ability to speak and say all the right things it would be hard to find a HC in the NFL who's better than Jason Garrett.

 

[erod]

I have no issue with his confidence I said I liked his confidence I suggest you read all my posts carefully. I said: "I like the confidence Garrett displays but would like to see some emotion from him." Confidence is very important to being a successful HC and team. My argument is he doesn't show any emotion and teams have a tendency to reflect their HC.

What emotion do you see from Belichick? Landry? Walsh? Shula? Dungy? Lovie? Levy? Kubiak?

In fact, Garrett shows a LOT more emotion than those guys. He fist pumps like Sean Payton. Very similar demeanor as Payton.

 

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[Idgit]

Calling the Garrett cheerleaders.. Guy could drive a truck straight into a a wall, and they'd blame the wall... BTW, the reason the play-calling has been re-assigned is because Garrett sucked at it and Jerry demoted him.

You guys save this stuff so you can use it again next offseason, ok? We'll have forgotten about it in the stream of whatever else you've been complaining about in the interim, so it will all seem new and interesting again, then.

 

[KJJ]

What emotion do you see from Belichick? Landry? Walsh? Shula? Dungy? Lovie? Levy? Kubiak?

In fact, Garrett shows a LOT more emotion than those guys. He fist pumps like Sean Payton. Very similar demeanor as Payton.

If you haven't seen the emotional side of Belichick where have you been? I suggest watching Belichick A Football Life you'll see him tearing into players while cursing an opposing player for talking smack to him during a game. I'm talking about showing emotion on game day not during interviews. Belichick sounds dead in his pressers but he's anything but dead on game day. You're saying Don Shula wasn't emotional and that Garrett shows more emotion than him and Belichick??? You might also want to watch a documentary on Shula and you'll be back retracting that comment. Garrett fist pumps like Sean Payton? LOL Payton's approach works for him he had a winning season and won a playoff game his first year in NO.

He won a championship in his 4th season. No one is saying all HC's are emotional or have to be to be successful. There's many examples of very successful unemotional HC's but most of the ones with the most championships showed emotion and would tear into players who weren't getting it done. As for Lovie maybe if he had a little more fire in him he wouldn't be out of a job. Sometimes a HC needs some bite in their personality to push a player to reach their full potential.

 

[khiladi]

People expect others to buy some concocted myth about Jason Garrett, while all signs point to him clearly not living up to the hype. He's been demoted is the reality. He no longer is OC, the very basis on which people claimed his greatness.

 

[jobberone]

Examples of coaches who show emotion and their players fear them? I pointed out Belichick he shows emotion on game day and will tear into a player who isn't getting it done. He even jumps on Brady once in awhile. I'm sure his players fear him he has control of his personnel. Tom Coughlin is a very emotional coach I like his style. You can tell he's not going to take any crap from anyone players or other coaches. I loved the way he got into the face of Greg Schiano after that game last season. Coughlin's players respond to him and it's easy to see why. He commented that he actually had to tone things down a few years back so coaches can change. Lombardi developed his approach over a period of several years.

Players weren't responding to him as an assistant coach with the Giants so he sought out advice from some of the veteran players like Frank Gifford. Jim Harbaugh is a very emotional coach and his players feed off it. His SF team reflects his personality you can tell his players love playing for him. There's been a lot of HC's over the past 20 years who show emotion and their players fear them. For a player to respect and fear their HC coach they have to know it all starts and ends with their HC.

And Landry never did anything more than glare at a player. Ask Waters if they were afraid of him. Brown was fairly stoic. Most aren't but you can't say someone is a good or bad coach based on their overall demeanor. I can tell you from leading men it's much harder to keep calm rather than raise heck. And when things got bad medically I was at my calmest even when no one else was. You can be emotional later. Just FYI.

 

[jobberone]

People expect others to buy some concocted myth about Jason Garrett, while all signs point to him clearly not living up to the hype. He's been demoted is the reality. He no longer is OC, the very basis on which people claimed his greatness.

And you think the fact that Callahan is the OC/OL coach means Garrett is less involved in game planning? The only thing that's changed is he's not calling all the plays now during the game. The offensive game planning hasn't changed. Many are involved as it should be. Calling the plays game day is important but it's not even half the job of running the offense. This isn't protecting or being a Garrett fan....this is stating facts. I don't care who calls the plays. I care if the offense is effective and score points.

 

[junk]

Part of it is it is a different age. There is now free agency and players with big contracts are hard to cut because of the signing bonuses and the effects on the cap. The players' attitude to authority is a lot different and the media and social media have also changed things quite a bit. You can't coach the way you used to and you have to find a new way to get along with the players other than ruling through fear and an iron fist.

I think Garrett has done a remarkable job rebuilding this roster without losing excessively, without an abundance of premium picks, without an abundance of extra picks and operating within a very tight salary cap because of all the bad contracts he inherited. In the 3 offseasons he has had there really has been only one good FA signed - Brandon Carr. Every other player had to be acquired in the bargain bin FA, UDFA or the draft. People don't see the improvement because the record hasn't changed but the roster is much better and much younger and we are far less reliant upon Parcells vets than was the case when he took over.

I am very excited about the year and let's give the HC a chance to play with his roster.

He's definitely got an uphill battle to fight. I'm glad he's had play calling taken away from him. He's a middle of the pack OC. I think he's better as a walk around HC. He also got the head job too early, so we have to endure his growing pains. Having both OC/HC duties definitely wasn't helping him overcome that learning curve either.

He's going to continue to battle a tight cap though for awhile. I still haven't figured out how accurate this site is yet, but let's use it for argument's sake.

http://overthecap.com/teamcap.php?Team=Cowboys&Year=2014

Cap is going to be in the $120 million range again next year, so Dallas is going to have to shed quite a bit of money just to be cap compliant again. This year I think they exhausted just about every restructure opportunity available with the exception of a long term Spencer deal. They have 8-10 now which will probably go to a new deal to Lee and a small amount of rollover, but Romo and Ware will have to be restructured again. Once more kicking money down the road and tying yourself to those guys even further in the future.

Spencer and Hatcher are free agents and you won't really have money to re-sign them. Ratliff is another year older and has been plagued by injury. Going to have to restock the DL. Dez and Smith are both free agents the next year. It is no wonder the organizational push has been that they have to play young guys. Really no choice.

 

[junk]

And you think the fact that Callahan is the OC/OL coach means Garrett is less involved in game planning? The only thing that's changed is he's not calling all the plays now during the game. The offensive game planning hasn't changed. Many are involved as it should be. Calling the plays game day is important but it's not even half the job of running the offense. This isn't protecting or being a Garrett fan....this is stating facts. I don't care who calls the plays. I care if the offense is effective and score points.

Where did you read this?

 

[coult44]

I was always on the side that Red would be a better coach if he wasn't the OC as well. I remember when JJ said "Jimmy was good walk around coach, and BP was a good walk around coach, but Jason Garret was a guy who was better to handle the OC and be the HC" I totally disagreed then, and I think we will see a totally different and more prepared Jason Garret this year....I'm actually looking forward to seeing him handle the entire game instead of just having his face behind that clipboard thinking about what play to call.

 

[Idgit]

Where did you read this?

This has been said by everybody involved with the process in just about every interview about the play calling.

 

[Hostile]

And you think the fact that Callahan is the OC/OL coach means Garrett is less involved in game planning? The only thing that's changed is he's not calling all the plays now during the game. The offensive game planning hasn't changed. Many are involved as it should be. Calling the plays game day is important but it's not even half the job of running the offense. This isn't protecting or being a Garrett fan....this is stating facts. I don't care who calls the plays. I care if the offense is effective and score points.

Great post Doc. Right on the money. Name one player or coach on this team who made a big deal out of who calls the plays. There isn't one. In fact, to a man they all said the media was making a mountain out of a mole hill. Every coach, down to the quality control guys, have input into a game plan. Those who think the game plan is going to change don't understand football. You may see changes due to personnel we have now. But even Bill Callahan is still saying this is Garrett's Offense they are running.

 

[erod]

If you haven't seen the emotional side of Belichick where have you been? I suggest watching Belichick A Football Life you'll see him tearing into players while cursing an opposing player for talking smack to him during a game. I'm talking about showing emotion on game day not during interviews. Belichick sounds dead in his pressers but he's anything but dead on game day. You're saying Don Shula wasn't emotional and that Garrett shows more emotion than him and Belichick??? You might also want to watch a documentary on Shula and you'll be back retracting that comment. Garrett fist pumps like Sean Payton? LOL Payton's approach works for him he had a winning season and won a playoff game his first year in NO.

He won a championship in his 4th season. No one is saying all HC's are emotional or have to be to be successful. There's many examples of very successful unemotional HC's but most of the ones with the most championships showed emotion and would tear into players who weren't getting it done. As for Lovie maybe if he had a little more fire in him he wouldn't be out of a job. Sometimes a HC needs some bite in their personality to push a player to reach their full potential.

Garrett does the same thing. Just not on camera. He gets on guys, but he keeps it in house.

 

[jobberone]

Where did you read this?

Read and heard it as well as just know that's how you coach.

This has been said by everybody involved with the process in just about every interview about the play calling.

Indeed.

Great post Doc. Right on the money. Name one player or coach on this team who made a big deal out of who calls the plays. There isn't one. In fact, to a man they all said the media was making a mountain out of a mole hill. Every coach, down to the quality control guys, have input into a game plan. Those who think the game plan is going to change don't understand football. You may see changes due to personnel we have now. But even Bill Callahan is still saying this is Garrett's Offense they are running.

Thanks Hos. Nothing new here. This is how its done most everywhere. You've got the guys/quality control breaking down the film and getting the stats involved, the D guys telling the O guys what they think of the upcoming opponent, and the O coaches doing their thing along with select players getting their input in on the side or team meetings. Occasionally coaches will call their mentors/coaches/network guys around the league and outside it for their input.

I highly doubt anybody on this forum outside a select few are going to notice with their eyeballs a difference in the playcalling that's purely due to Callahan vs Garrett. Even with stats you might not be able to say there's a difference since game plans change and are adjusted during the game. Even as the season wears on.

I do think that Garrett will benefit from not having information and duty overload during the game and be better at game management. We'll see. And I think Callahan is pretty good at running an offense. And he should know Garrett's offense and philosophy by now.

The biggest difference I hope to see is likely to come from better execution on the field, better understanding of the schemes particularly the ZBS and stunt and blitz pickups, and hopefully we'll see an improved scoring % and RZ %.