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[Hoofbite]

Hoof,it's not about being a great coach as much as being the right coach. The players seem to believe in him. And they understand the constraints he works under

Tomlin and McCarthy aren't great coaches. They are the right ones though.

I'm not even sure what this means, how you would even define "right", and where the distinguishing line between "inherent rightness" and "right because of results" would be placed.

Perhaps Tomlin and McCarthy are great coaches and that's what makes them "right". They're winners, they've won championships, saying they are the right guys is actually backed by results. Garrett's right because.............players believe him? The players believed in Wade. They went to bat for him time and time again. He just didn't demand anything from them and so they didn't give him anything. It appears you can be both the "right coach" and suck at the same time.

Marginalizing Tomlin and McCarthy's coaching ability and the results they have produced by reducing things to being the "right coaches" basically implies that coaching prowess is worthless and simply finding the "right guy" (Whatever that even means) will produce championships. If only it were as easy as putting together a puzzle because then every team would be winners, right?

I really can't wait for the day when the coach of the Cowboys has earned his own winning reputation so that he need not be propped up by people invoking the names of championship winning head coaches or reaching back 20-plus years to coaching legends.

If you're going to say that you have faith in Garrett simply because you're a fan of the team, there's really no reason to disguise as anything other than that.

 

[KJJ]

I don't know where you got this perception but he got quite upset with players at times on the field. He just didn't yell and scream at them at least as its been relayed to me.

He got upset with players but I said he didn't "chastise" his players meaning he didn't yell and scream at them during games or at practice. He clearly got upset during some games and practices. He was visibly upset during one game when Danny White was told not to run a play on 4th down but to just try and draw the defense offsides.

He ended up running the play and it failed. Landry was furious but he didn't tear into White when he came to the sidelines. What I'm saying isn't a perception this was claimed by his players. Landry didn't want to embarrass a player so if he had an issue with the way a player was performing he would handle it in private with the player this is according to his players.

 

[KJJ]

How do you know he doesn't?

According to those who cover the team and have attended practices he doesn't. At least I've never heard any of them say they've seen him tear into a player. I'm not saying he doesn't get angry at players or doesn't tear into a player on occasion but I've never seen it in the training camp practices I've attended or heard any of the beat writers around the team claim they've seen him do it. Garrett has been asked if he has a temper and his response was that occasionally a player will get his ire up.

 

[KJJ]

You sure would have been annoyed by the Landry years. He was the same regardless of the team being the worst or the best in the league. Emotion was never present.

Up until the early 80's I loved the Landry years got to enjoy 2 championships and 20 consecutive winning seasons. Landry's lack of emotion did frustrate me at times I always felt like if he was more animated the team might not have come up short in so many title games. George Allen use to get his Commander teams so fired up for the Cowboys while Landry and the team would enter the field looking like they were attending a funeral.

The most nervous Sundays were the days the Cowboys were having to play at RFK. Landry's teams reflected him all business and no emotion. Landry didn't even like players spiking the ball after a TD I believe he put a stop to it for awhile. Texas Stadium had the quietest crowds of any stadium during the Landry years. I like emotion which is why Jimmy was my favorite Cowboys coach.

 

[KJJ]

He'd like to see Garrett show emotion in Macho Man Randy Savage sort of way.

But even if that were the case he'd probably complain about Garrett being too emotional.

There's no need for that there's a lot of Cowboy fans who wish Garrett would show some emotion. We had a big discussion about it last year.

 

[big dog cowboy]

He'd like to see Garrett show emotion in Macho Man Randy Savage sort of way.

The Macho Man isn't with us any more. How about we go Hulk Hogan instead, brother.

 

[5Stars]

What blows me away is that posters reference all these older coaches that have won championships. Well, how long did it take them to win theirs, It was more than three freaking years.

Also, how is Garrett going to get his "winning reputation" without coaching for a few more years? He can't! Just because Garrett does not shout and throw a temper tantrum on the sidelines does not mean a damn thing.

Some want to talk about Landry and how he seemed emotionless, sort of like Garrett, yet Landry gets a pass because he won two SB's. How long did that take? More than three years.

There is more than one way to skin a cat, and not everyone does the same thing to achieve the same result.

Garrett gets called out for not acting like some mad man on the sideline. Yet, the same posters that dog him for that would be dogging him if he was acting like a mad man.

 

[jobberone]

He got upset with players but I said he didn't "chastise" his players meaning he didn't yell and scream at them during games or at practice. He clearly got upset during some games and practices. He was visibly upset during one game when Danny White was told not to run a play on 4th down but to just try and draw the defense offsides.

He ended up running the play and it failed. Landry was furious but he didn't tear into White when he came to the sidelines. What I'm saying isn't a perception this was claimed by his players. Landry didn't want to embarrass a player so if he had an issue with the way a player was performing he would handle it in private with the player this is according to his players.

He beat Waters up so bad in one meeting he had to come back and say something nice. And that wasn't in private. He embarrassed a many a player just by staring at them. Have you ever been in a film room with most of the team or even just your position coach and fellow LBs yada?

 

[5Stars]

The Macho Man isn't with us any more. How about we go Hulk Hogan instead, brother.

Hogan would be better because Costa is engaged to his daughter.

 

[KJJ]

He beat Waters up so bad in one meeting he had to come back and say something nice. And that wasn't in private. He embarrassed a many a player just my staring at them. Have you ever been in a film room with most of the team or even just your position coach and fellow LBs yada?

Never heard that story about Waters did Landry yell at him? I'm relaying what I've heard from Drew Pearson and others. If a player can be embarrassed just by a coach starring at them that's a weak player in my opinion. I've never been in a film room with other coaches I'm referring to the approach "Landry" had from the mouths of the players he coached.

 

[KJJ]

Landry started off with an expansion team in 1960 a team the 2010 Cowboys would have mauled. Landry didn't start off with one of the most productive QB's in the league. He didn't start off with a future HOF TE and one of the greatest sackmasters in the game who's also a future HOF player. He didn't start off with a Dez Bryant and a Miles Austin at WR. The 1960 Cowboys are ranked as one of the worst teams in NFL history and didn't even have a draft pick in 1960. Landry was handed the worst players and had to make the best of it.

Everyone knew it was going to take years for the Cowboys to become a competitive team. Garrett started off with what most consider a talented roster that was underachieving. The team Garrett was handed ended up winning 5 of 8 games including a win on the road against a Peyton Manning led Colts team.

 

[5Stars]

Meredith, who played quarterback for Landry in two NFL championship games and then quit after he felt he had been humiliated by his coach in an important game at Cleveland, has said Landry is regimented, unemotional and so well organized that he has no need to communicate. Before Running Back Duane Thomas stopped talking to the outside world last season, he told reporters Landry was a "plastic man." Landry has also been called Computer Face. It has been said that he has transistors in his heart, that he is unblinking to the cries of humanity around him. He has been seen to weep in front of his team in the locker room, break up with helpless laughter on a TV show and run 40 yards to yell at a football official, but these are rare moments in his public life. An old friend from college days, Rooster Andrews, says, "People want to know what makes Tom tick, and he's too smart to tell them. He was born polished. He's such a gentleman it's almost spooky."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1086546/index.htm

 

[jobberone]

Never heard that story about Waters did Landry yell at him? I'm relaying what I've heard from Drew Pearson and others. If a player can be embarrassed just by a coach starring at them that's a weak player in my opinion. I've never been in a film room with other coaches I'm referring to the approach "Landry" had from the mouths of the players he coached.

I'm giving it to you st8.

 

[5Stars]

Then there was the time play-by-play voice Brad Sham, who also hosted Landry's weekly TV show, stormed into Landry's office steamed that a local media critic had made a derogatory remark about the coach's show in the newspaper.

Sham told Landry what the critic had written and waited for Landry to match his anger, but the coach's response stunned him.

"He threw his head back and laughed. He laughed louder and longer than I'd ever heard him laugh," Sham said. "There was a twinkle in his eye, when he finally stopped giggling and said, 'You haven't learned yet not to pay attention to what these people write.'"

 

[5Stars]

"Coach Landry was a brilliant coach — he put the defense together, he put the offense together," Staubach said. "But with the game today, there's so much going on. There's a lot of strategy involved, and a head coach has to think about the big picture and not just focus on one area that's very important: playcalling. So I think it's moving away from head coaches calling plays."

Staubach's opinion has current relevance with the recent announcement that Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett will no longer call plays. Offensive coordinator Bill Callahan has been given play-calling duty.

That's a move Staubach endorses. Although, as with Landry, it's not because he thinks Garrett doesn't have the brains for the job.

"Jason's a brilliant coach and he needs to have his say in the whole scheme that's going on out there," Staubach said. "If he spends his week watching film of the other teams' defenses, then that's what you have to do to call plays. So my personal feeling is I think it gives him a good grasp on helping in every area of the team versus just worrying about play calling on Sunday."

 

[KJJ]

Saw an NFL films interview with Meredith years ago and he never said he quit the game because of feeling humiliated by Landry for being yanked in the 1968 playoff loss to Cleveland. He was awful in that game throwing 3 int's and Landry was forced to make a move. Listening to Meredith's interview he gave the clear impression that he was fed up with the fans booing him. They had been on him for years. He said "it's only a game people." The fans wanted Morton well before that Cleveland loss and had been coming down hard on Meredith which caused him to lose his desire for the game. Below is a quote by Tom Landry.

Meredith's last moment in a Cowboys uniform was painful. He threw three interceptions in a 1968 playoff game against the Cleveland Browns and was pulled in favor of Craig Morton.

"I tried to talk him out of it," Dallas coach Tom Landry said after Meredith announced his retirement. "But when you lose your desire in this game, that's it."

 

[KJJ]

I'm giving it to you st8.

Didn't say you weren't.

 

[KJJ]

Here's the link to that Tom Landry quote.

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=5890812

 

[Rockport]

He's a robot who's been programmed that way. He has a cockiness about him and doesn't show any emotion. The way he comes off you would think he's coaching a 13 win playoff team.

Wow, a chance to bash Garrett or Romo and you just can't resist.

 

[KJJ]

Here's another comment about Meredith's unexpected retirement. It was claimed here that he said his retirement was for personal reasons but the players suspected it was his deteriorating relationship with Landry. Some players said he didn't want to be booed anymore which is what he said in the NFL Films interview I saw. He never said anything negative about Landry in that interview he talked about the booing and the way fans were treating him. He was clearly affected by it.

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/07/remembering-don-meredith-as-a-football-player/?_r=0

Just before the start of training camp in 1969, Meredith unexpectedly announced his retirement at age 31, in his prime. He claimed it was for personal reasons, but his teammates said it had more to do with his deteriorating relationship with Landry. Maybe he just didn’t want to be booed anymore. You would think, with his happy-go-lucky personality, that all the criticism wouldn’t bother him. It hurt because, as he told NFL Films, “in your heart you know you did the best you could” and that the people booing didn’t “understand what it’s all about.”