A.J. Brown traded to Patriots

TheMarathonContinues said:
Carson Wentz and Sam Bradford stunk. Yes, those were fleeces. AJ Brown is an all pro. He’s not them. He’s a great player. He’s only 28 and will be 29 when the season start.

Your numbers don’t say what you are. Pickens who we love didn’t have the same stats until he got to Dallas.
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He was an All-Pro last year? I don't remember that.

The difference is that Pickens is a young, ascending player. Brown is in his eighth year and didn't put up numbers that matched what he had previously shown.

The Patriots are hoping circumstances are the reason for that instead of Brown starting to hit the wall. But you don't overpay on that, and a first-round pick for what he showed last year is overpaying.

If we had traded that for Brown coming off the season that he had, I wouldn't be happy about that.
 
DallasEast said:
Howie Roseman's resume (link)
  • Earned a Juris Doctor from the Fordham University School of Law & an unpaid Philadelphia Eagles intern (2000)
  • Salary Cap Staff Counsel (2000-2002)
  • Director of Football Administration (2003-2005)
  • VP of Football Administration (2006-2007)
  • VP of Player Personnel (2008-2009)
  • General Manager (2010-2014)
  • Executive VP of Football Operations (2015-2018)
  • Executive VP/General Manager (2019-present)

Jerry Jones's resume (link)
  • Wildcatter (1988)
  • NFL owner (1989-March 1994)
  • NFL owner/self-named President/self-named General Manager/billions in league revenue Gold Jacket recipient (hell)

Clones. Mirror images of qualified professional football experience. Twins.
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Jerry is the smartest man in the room.
 
Aerolithe_Lion said:
The same RB for a QB who gave him his only 1400 yard seasons.

AJ’s numbers declined because of his hamstring problem that seemed to never go away and his chronic degenerative knee condition. His stats may go up early in a different offense, but he’s not suddenly going to become a better a wr long term. It’s why the Rams backed out

https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nfl...brown-knee-injury-eagles-trade-rumors/779351/
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Right. The more wear and tear on the body, the tougher it is to continue to put up elite numbers. Maybe he can get back to it, but the Pats are betting on that when his on-field production doesn't match what they bet.
 
Great trade for the eagles

We’ll end up with nothing for Pickens

Another franchise tag next year just to show him who’s boss and then cut I’ll loose.
 
gimmesix said:
It may be, but you still don't overpay for what you think might happen. You pay what a player shows he's worth at the time you make the move. The Patriots overpaid for what Brown showed last year. They are banking like you are that his lower production was simply because of the offense and not because his skills are in decline.
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Even if you go by what his overall numbers were in 2025 he still grades out as a top 20 wr.

Waddle netted a 1 and 3 for this year. Brown getting a future 1st doesn’t seem that outlandish to me.
 
He wasn’t worth a 1st. But New England can overpay considering they have a young QB and just went to a Super Bowl.
 
gimmesix said:
Right. The more wear and tear on the body, the tougher it is to continue to put up elite numbers. Maybe he can get back to it, but the Pats are betting on that when his on-field production doesn't match what they bet.
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Why are we blaming Brown like he can throw himself the ball? Devonta’s stats suffer to so to you guys Devonta is a bust?
 
gimmesix said:
He was an All-Pro last year? I don't remember that.

The difference is that Pickens is a young, ascending player. Brown is in his eighth year and didn't put up numbers that matched what he had previously shown.

The Patriots are hoping circumstances are the reason for that instead of Brown starting to hit the wall. But you don't overpay on that, and a first-round pick for what he showed last year is overpaying.

If we had traded that for Brown coming off the season that he had, I wouldn't be happy about that.
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Just curious but are you aware of how bad the Eagles offense was? Even Saquon looked pedestrian. They fired the OC. Judging Brown is like judging Quinnen Williams playing under Eberflus…
 
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Pats in win now mode; which is sensible
Their weakness last year was on offense, so making it stronger is a good move; giving their young QB a top target
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
Just curious but are you aware of how bad the Eagles offense was? Even Saquon looked pedestrian. They fired the OC. Judging Brown is like judging Quinnen Williams playing under Eberflus…
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They won 11 games, albeit in the worst division in the NFL. Two great wide receivers doesn’t mean a thing. (See Dallas and Cincinnati). Apparently the difference is the whole roster.
 
All I know is over the last 20 years, Philly has been very lucky and Dallas very unlucky on trading and bringing in players on how the future plays out with those players...
 
Can anyone remind me or explain to me what prevents Dallas from signing Pickens long-term, and if we don’t want him after this season we just trade him for a 1st and a 2nd/3rd?

Pickens is much better value than AJ “Grandpa” Brown.
 
Aerolithe_Lion said:
That thinking is for GM’s who don’t know if they’ll be around next year so they over emphasize the value of current picks. Roseman doesn’t have that issue so he can prey on GM’s who do
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But it's a fact. You left that out in your previous replies to me.
 
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