A look at the Roy Williams trade

[TheSport78]

It's Friday afternoon, I just got home and thought it would be interesting to see what WR's were available in the 1st, 3rd and 6th rounds of the 2009 NFL Draft, due to the picks we gave up for RW.

1st round WR's after #20:

#22: Percy Harvin
#29: Hakeem Nicks
#30: Kenny Britt

3rd round WR's after #69:

#82: Derrick Williams
#83: Brandon Tate
#84: Mike Wallace
#85: Ramses Barden
#87: Patrick Turner
#91: Deon Butler
#99: Juaquin Iglesias

6th round WR's after #192

#194: Brandon Gibson
#206: Dominique Edison

The ones in bold are the WR's I would've taken over Roy Williams. At least these bolded WR's are staying healthy and contributing to their team (even if the Titans are 0-6). I'm just going on pure potential right now. We all know what Roy is. He's never going to be a true #1 WR, he's a typical possession WR that will occasionally make tough catches in traffic and has exceptional hands. He just doesn't have the burst to get enough separation in order to get open. Nicks and Britt have great potential to develop into #1 WR's, while currently they could make serious contributions to the offense. In history, it's been proven that you DON'T need a #1 WR to win championships. Look at Santonio Holmes. He's possibly the second best #2 WR in the NFL and Steelers got their ring. I would definitely love Nicks, Britt or Wallace right now. But according to Jerry, it takes 2-3 years for a WR to contribute. :bang2:

 

[Hostile]

I'd rather have Roy than any WR on that list. His downfield blocks have been great and he is moving the chains when thrown to him. Only getting better.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I'd rather have Roy than any WR on that list. His downfield blocks have been great and he is moving the chains when thrown to him. Only getting better.

I would agree with ya if he would stay some what healthy.
Between Roy and Felix this is getting sickening.

 

[Hostile]

I would agree with ya if he would stay some what healthy.
Between Roy and Felix this is getting sickening.

Yeah, because every WR on that list could have taken the hit he did and not had an injury.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Its ridiculous to say we all know RW is not a #1 WR. He has already proven that he can be one. I would take RW over any of those WR at this point. It is interesting to me how RW catches so much grief. He does pretty much every thing we ask him to do. Down field blocks goes over the middle all the good stuff. Its not his fault he does not see that many balls or a game plan more dedicated to getting him involved.

 

[CATCH17]

What makes anyone think Romo would throw those guys the ball? Thats what is key.


Everyone is saying Roy and Bennett have had opportunities to make plays including their coaches. So its kinda hard to make a play without the ball.

 

[theogt]

I'd rather have Roy than any WR on that list.

Ditto.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

1st round WR's after #20:

#22: Percy Harvin
#29: Hakeem Nicks
#30: Kenny Britt

3rd round WR's after #69:

#82: Derrick Williams
#83: Brandon Tate
#84: Mike Wallace
#85: Ramses Barden
#87: Patrick Turner
#91: Deon Butler
#99: Juaquin Iglesias

6th round WR's after #192

#194: Brandon Gibson
#206: Dominique Edison

None of these guys have shown consistancy. I still like the talent of the twenty six year old Roy Williams over the rookies you have listed, though the potential is there for Britt and Nicks they'll never be anymore than solid #2s like Roy, niether will Harvin or Wallace.


Not a bad trade like people make it out to be, plus Dallas got a fourth rounder (1st pick in the fifth) for a Seventh (late sixth rounder) out of the deal.

 

[utrunner07]

Ditto.

Big surprise here.

 

[Hostile]

Big surprise here.

Meaning what? That he always agrees with me? Not by a damn site. We've had plenty of discussion where we do not agree. More of that kind than those where we do in fact.

Or is it simply that you have a problem with anything he posts?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Yeah, because every WR on that list could have taken the hit he did and not had an injury.

I didn't say that. But others might be able to take the pain better than he does. Maybe he has a low tolerance. Witten seems to have a high tolerance.
Wasn't he hurt last season also?

 

[utrunner07]

Meaning what? That he always agrees with me? Not by a damn site. We've had plenty of discussion where we do not agree. More of that kind than those where we do in fact.

Or is it simply that you have a problem with anything he posts?

Oh nothing...just saying, I was really shocked, I think my heart skipped a beat. Just shocking, that's all. As is this reply, shocking.

 

[Hostile]

I didn't say that. But others might be able to take the pain better than he does. Maybe he has a low tolerance. Witten seems to have a high tolerance.
Wasn't he hurt last season also?

He arrived here with plantar fasciatis. Football is a painful game. Far more painful than fans who call these players Glass will every realize.

 

[Hostile]

Oh nothing...just saying, I was really shocked, I think my heart skipped a beat. Just shocking, that's all. As is this reply, shocking.

You'll strip your gears slamming into reverse that fast.

 

[TheSport78]

I'd rather have Roy than any WR on that list. His downfield blocks have been great and he is moving the chains when thrown to him. Only getting better.

I'm going to respectfully disagree because Jerry shouldn't pay a WR 45 million dollars to downfield block. He hasn't had a positive impact in the passing game and Roy had one solid year in Detroit under Mike Martz' system, who ran the ball probably 5% of the time lol. Roy had lingering injury concerns in Detroit as well. I bet Lions fans are saying, "yup we went through the same thing." I know the rib injury was Romo's fault, but all I'm saying is Roy has a history of injuries because of his neglecting attitude to lift weights and protect his body. Wasn't there a quote from him that said he didn't even touch a weight till he got to the NFL? That's ridiculous and unacceptable as a WR in the NFL.

 

[Hostile]

I'm going to respectfully disagree because Jerry shouldn't pay a WR 45 million dollars to downfield block. He hasn't had a positive impact in the passing game and Roy had one solid year in Detroit under Mike Martz' system, who ran the ball probably 5% of the time lol. Roy had lingering injury concerns in Detroit as well. I bet Lions fans are saying, "yup we went through the same thing." I know the rib injury was Romo's fault, but all I'm saying is Roy has a history of injuries because of his neglecting attitude to lift weights and protect his body. Wasn't there a quote from him that said he didn't even touch a weight till he got to the NFL? That's ridiculous and unacceptable as a WR in the NFL.

Why are people hung up on what someone gets paid?

I don't get that. Guy contributes to what makes teams successful. End of equation for me. Whether he makes 45 dollars or 45 million is irrelevant.

Oh, and I like how you ignored the part about "moving the chains."

 

[Rampage]

the trade has been terrible so far. until Romo starts throwing him the ball it's gonna remain that way. how in the world can Brad Johnson have the same amount of td passes to Roy as Romo does in 10 less games?

 

[Hostile]

the trade has been terrible so far. until Romo starts throwing him the ball it's gonna remain that way. how in the world can Brad Johnson have the same amount of td passes to Roy in 10 less games?

This is so ridiculous.

10 more games, you think he will have more? Of course you don't. Silly comparison driven by being butt hurt.

 

[TheSport78]

Why are people hung up on what someone gets paid?

I don't get that. Guy contributes to what makes teams successful. End of equation for me. Whether he makes 45 dollars or 45 million is irrelevant.

Oh, and I like how you ignored the part about "moving the chains."

He hasn't exactly been money with moving the chains. I can remember a play against Carolina where he caught a 3rd down pass to move the chains, but it's not like Roy is money. Dallas in general is converting just under 37% on 3rd down, which is good for 18th in the league. Until the WR's start getting some separation so Romo doesn't have to hold the ball longer, nothing will change.

 

[Rampage]

ok now read it again