A look at the Roy Williams trade

[utrunner07]

ok now read it again

ditto.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

I really would put the lack of production on Romo. Look the guy is not having a good season so far. He has been off on throws all season long. You can't expect Roy to move the chains make the tough catch and throw the ball at the same time.

 

[Hostile]

He hasn't exactly been money with moving the chains. I can remember a play against Carolina where he caught a 3rd down pass to move the chains, but it's not like Roy is money. Dallas in general is converting just under 37% on 3rd down, which is good for 18th in the league. Until the WR's start getting some separation so Romo doesn't have to hold the ball longer, nothing will change.

You need to look up how many of his receptions have resulted in a 1st down (including last year) before you spout this nonsense. He's been pretty consistent in moving the chains. Even last year when he hardly registered a notice.

 

[Rampage]

I really would put the lack of production on Romo. Look the guy is not having a good season so far. He has been off on throws all season long. You can't expect Roy to move the chains make the tough catch and throw the ball at the same time.

no way! Tony Romo is the bestest qb cause Babe Laufenberg said so on tv

 

[Hostile]

ok now read it again

ditto.

What the hell are you 2 babbling about?

 

[utrunner07]

What the hell are you 2 babbling about?

yeah, you like what i did there?

 

[Rampage]

What the hell are you 2 babbling about?

:laugh2: go read my post again. I fixed it cause judging from your response I didn't make it clear enough.

 

[craig71]

I'm going to respectfully disagree because Jerry shouldn't pay a WR 45 million dollars to downfield block. He hasn't had a positive impact in the passing game and Roy had one solid year in Detroit under Mike Martz' system, who ran the ball probably 5% of the time lol. Roy had lingering injury concerns in Detroit as well. I bet Lions fans are saying, "yup we went through the same thing." I know the rib injury was Romo's fault, but all I'm saying is Roy has a history of injuries because of his neglecting attitude to lift weights and protect his body. Wasn't there a quote from him that said he didn't even touch a weight till he got to the NFL? That's ridiculous and unacceptable as a WR in the NFL.

I think the remark about not being a gym rat was one of those "tongue in cheek" remarks.I do think you can say he is in better shape this year versus last year from the way he looks on the field,although looks don't put up numbers.I don't know what injuries he's suffered in the past,but I do know that you can't protect certain parts of the body with weightlifting.

Craig

 

[Hostile]

yeah, you like what i did there?

Saying ditto to something I have no idea what he meant in the first place?

:laugh2: go read my post again. I fixed it cause judging from your response I didn't make it clear enough.

It looks basically the same to me. It is still a ridiculous question about Brad Johnson vs. Tony Romo.

But hey, you got a ditto from someone who likes babbling.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

I'd rather have Louis Delmas and Louis Murphy.

Louis x2!!

 

[TheSport78]

You need to look up how many of his receptions have resulted in a 1st down (including last year) before you spout this nonsense. He's been pretty consistent in moving the chains. Even last year when he hardly registered a notice.

6 of his 11 receptions have resulted in first downs, but that still doesn't mean much, Hos. He had 1 reception against the Giants in a nationally televised game. A true #1 is a playmaker that defenses have to account for each and every week. I guarantee you when defenses gameplan for the Cowboys during the week, they concentrate on stopping Witten and then take their chances with Roy. Roy isn't warranting his contract.

 

[utrunner07]

But hey, you got a ditto from someone who likes babbling.

As did you.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Saying ditto to something I have no idea what he meant in the first place?

It looks basically the same to me. It is still a ridiculous question about Brad Johnson vs. Tony Romo.

But hey, you got a ditto from someone who likes babbling.

What's so hard to understand?

Brad Johnson and Tony Romo have the same amount of TD's thrown to Roy. Brad had 10 less games.

irrefutable fact.

 

[Hostile]

I should know by now not to bother with some people. They have no clear understanding of football.

 

[Hostile]

As did you.

Ah, so I was right and you simply have an issue with theogt and chose to drag it into this particular thread. Good to know for the future. I won't have to be confused.

 

[igtmfo]

Not a bad trade like people make it out to be, plus Dallas got a fourth rounder (1st pick in the fifth) for a Seventh (late sixth rounder) out of the deal.

Sorry, incorrect. The fourth-round pick we got from the Lions last draft was from a 2008 draft day trade. (We traded a three-pick in 2008 and got a four-pick in 2008 along with a three-pick in 2009.). Had nothing to do with Roy.

We did pick up a seventh rounder in the deal in the last draft, which we shuttled around I think to trade up with Atlanta or something, hard to tell what we got with it ...

Guys we could have had with RW picks that are on ESPN's Top Ten rookie list (for performance so far this season) as of Oct. 20:

Pick any two guys below, likely any of them would be strong role players, if not starters, already for us ....

1. LB Brian Cushing, Texans (1st rd.)
3. LB DeAndre Levy, Lions (3rd rd.)
4. LB James Laurentis, Rams (2nd rd.)
5. OT Mike Oher, Ravens (1st rd.)
6. WR Johnny Knox, Bears (4th rd.)
7. S Louis Delmas, Lions (2nd rd.)
10. WR P. Harvin (1st)

Add in other top rookies from Scouts. inc so far that we could have ...
(Their own numbers follow, guys that aren't already listed above by ESPN):
14: LB Rey Maualuga, Bengals (2nd rd.)
15. WR Wallace, Steelers (4th rd.)
16. RB Don Brown, Colts (4th)
17. WR Austin Collie, Colts (4th)
18. C Alex Mack, Browns (1st rd.)
19. CB Derek Cox, Jags (4th rd.)
20. Massaquoi

 

[KingintheNorth]

I think most of you know how I feel about GM Jerry Jones. That being said, I think we did fine in this trade. Roy is a better WR than anyone on that list. We also got him in October 08 on a team that many felt was a Superbowl contender. A 2009 Draft pick would not have arrived until this season and would be a know-nothing rookie.

Jerry took a chance and went out and got another weapon. Not even the harshest Jerry critic (which is me) can find fault in that. Did Detroit get more than they should have? Possibly? I still say we would have had to trade up to get a WR we really wanted (Crabtree or Maclin) anyway.

Yeah, last year didn't work out but that's because our owner hired a Coach that inspires no one. We have a well balanced offense with many talented weapons. We just need a coach capable of getting the most out of our talent.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

I should know by now not to bother with some people. They have no clear understanding of football.

Do Romo and Brad Johnson not have the same amount of TD's thrown to Roy?

 

[Hostile]

Do Romo and Brad Johnson not have the same amount of TD's thrown to Roy?

I do NOT care. It is irrelevant to me. It is a stupid thing to be focused on.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

You guys are failing to see that any WR we COULD have drafted would be facing the same problems RW is facing with less developed talent and experience. Some how i'm not seeing that working out.