A playcaller needs to be named now

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Who's calling the plays?

I'm not calling the plays, are you calling the plays? He's not calling the plays, what about that guy, is he calling the plays?

Jerry, who's calling the plays? "Uh, er, uh, certainly, uh, playcalling is important, uh, er, uh......." Good lord.

Jason, are you calling the plays? "We're going through the process of........." Oh, criminy, dude.

Hey, Callahan, are you calling the plays? "Ask Jerry, but did you hear the one about the...." I already did, and maybe later.

Who's calling the dadgum plays? Is it that hard of a question?

Truth is, I think, there's a battle royale going on behind the scenes about playcalling. I think most stuff, drama included, has sorted itself out and fallen into place, but quietly, there's a simmering whizzing match about who gets the camera time on the sideline talking into the back of a playsheet.

I believe Jerry wants Callahan to call the plays. I think most of us do, too. I also believe Garrett adamantly wants to hold on to that role because he wants to sink or swim on his own volition. Can't blame him for that, but I don't think he understands how good of a head coach he could be with a clearer head and more time to use that big Princeton brain on the sidelines.

I see a tremendous quality in Garrett that I'm not sure he values as much as he should.

The thing about smart people - I wish I were one of them people - is that they too often don't have much faith in their common man, or in this case, their fellow coaching brethren. Tom Landry was the worst in terms of trusting his coaches, and he called plays on both sides of the ball.

Garrett exudes more presence, and instills more confidence, by just looking on in calculating contemplation. When he's buried in playcalling, he looks far too much like just the young offensive coordinator, and then he looks fidgety when the defense is on the field. It's too much of a contrast for his personality.

Garrett is a stately man. He's the CEO of some airline, and the Chairman of the Board for some hoity toity multinational joint venture hedge fund investment capital ways and means sub-committee......you get the point.

You can still call plays if you're not the playcaller. In fact, you can make a LOT more decisions in all three facets of the game if you're not the designated offensive playcaller. There's so much more freedom to manage on the fly when you're not the one changing the tires in the pit crew.

This needs to get ironed out now and made public. It's important for Garrett's presence and stature in front of the team. It need not linger any further.
 

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As long as the players know who is calling the plays why does not matter if you know? You plan on playing this season? :laugh2:
 

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just because you want to know does'nt mean they need to tell anyone. fans think they should know everything
callahan called plays some last year and will some this year. garrett called the most of the plays and will again this year. now you know
 

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:laugh2: no that doesn't need to happen just because you and the media have their panties in a bunch, I hope it always remains a mystery
 

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i am not a fan on garrett the play caller

BUT

this decision needs to made at Garrett's discretion and he should make any changes/annoucements since this should be his team both in reality and in perception
 

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Doomsday101;5088440 said:
As long as the players know who is calling the plays why does not matter if you know? You plan on playing this season? :laugh2:

The point is, nobody knows because Garrett is fighting tooth and nail to remain the playcaller. That's been suggested by folks in the know, and that needs to get sorted out.

Players get their information the same as us in many cases, through Twitter and headlines.

Jimmy Johnson understood this brilliantly. He communicated to his players through the media all the time.
 

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erod;5088438 said:
Who's calling the plays?

I'm not calling the plays, are you calling the plays? He's not calling the plays, what about that guy, is he calling the plays?

Jerry, who's calling the plays? "Uh, er, uh, certainly, uh, playcalling is important, uh, er, uh......." Good lord.

Jason, are you calling the plays? "We're going through the process of........." Oh, criminy, dude.

Hey, Callahan, are you calling the plays? "Ask Jerry, but did you hear the one about the...." I already did, and maybe later.

Who's calling the dadgum plays? Is it that hard of a question?

Truth is, I think, there's a battle royale going on behind the scenes about playcalling. I think most stuff, drama included, has sorted itself out and fallen into place, but quietly, there's a simmering whizzing match about who gets the camera time on the sideline talking into the back of a playsheet.

I believe Jerry wants Callahan to call the plays. I think most of us do, too. I also believe Garrett adamantly wants to hold on to that role because he wants to sink or swim on his own volition. Can't blame him for that, but I don't think he understands how good of a head coach he could be with a clearer head and more time to use that big Princeton brain on the sidelines.

I see a tremendous quality in Garrett that I'm not sure he values as much as he should.

The thing about smart people - I wish I were one of them people - is that they too often don't have much faith in their common man, or in this case, their fellow coaching brethren. Tom Landry was the worst in terms of trusting his coaches, and he called plays on both sides of the ball.

Garrett exudes more presence, and instills more confidence, by just looking on in calculating contemplation. When he's buried in playcalling, he looks far too much like just the young offensive coordinator, and then he looks fidgety when the defense is on the field. It's too much of a contrast for his personality.

Garrett is a stately man. He's the CEO of some airline, and the Chairman of the Board for some hoity toity multinational joint venture hedge fund investment capital ways and means sub-committee......you get the point.

You can still call plays if you're not the playcaller. In fact, you can make a LOT more decisions in all three facets of the game if you're not the designated offensive playcaller. There's so much more freedom to manage on the fly when you're not the one changing the tires in the pit crew.

This needs to get ironed out now and made public. It's important for Garrett's presence and stature in front of the team. It need not linger any further.

They already know. Trust me.
 

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visionary;5088454 said:
i am not a fan on garrett the play caller

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this decision needs to made at Garrett's discretion and he should make any changes/annoucements since this should be his team both in reality and in perception

Thing is no matter who is calling the plays as HC he has the right to over ride any calls, he is after all the HC and success or failure still will fall on his shoulders no matter what.

He is not going to be able to say well it is not my fault, Callahan was calling the plays, as HC he take the responsiblity of how this team does falls to him
 

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zack;5088458 said:
They already know. Trust me.

According to Babe Laugenberg, Jerry wants Callahan to call plays, and Garrett is trying to talk him out of it.
 

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erod;5088457 said:
The point is, nobody knows because Garrett is fighting tooth and nail to remain the playcaller. That's been suggested by folks in the know, and that needs to get sorted out.

Players get their information the same as us in many cases, through Twitter and headlines.

Jimmy Johnson understood this brilliantly. He communicated to his players through the media all the time.

Players get their info straight from the HC not from ESPN, it is not what he says to the media it is what he says to them. They know what is going on just because you don't doesn't mean they don't.

As mentioned even if Callahan is calling plays as HC Garrett can over ride the call he is still the one that is held responsible for the teams play, that is what HC do. He will not be able to say well I was not calling the plays he is the HC it is all on him. So as a fan whether Garrett is calling every play or not really means little, the success or failure of this team is still on him.


As for Jimmy he did not put out the information to his players via twitter or the media he told the player to their face, that is a bunch of non sense to think players are getting their info from the media? :laugh2:
 

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Doomsday101;5088467 said:
Players get their info straight from the HC not from ESPN, it is not what he says to the media it is what he says to them. They know what is going on just because you don't doesn't mean they don't.

As mentioned even if Callahan is calling plays as HC Garrett can over ride the call he is still the one that is held responsible for the teams play, that is what HC do. He will not be able to say well I was not calling the plays he is the HC it is all on him. So as a fan whether Garrett is calling every play or not really means little, the success or failure of this team is still on him.


As for Jimmy he did not put out the information to his players via twitter or the media he told the player to their face, that is a bunch of non sense to think players are getting their info from the media? :laugh2:

"We will win the ballgame. And you can put it in 3-inch headlines. We will win the ball game." - Jimmy Johnson

Who do you think he said that for?
 

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erod;5088469 said:
"We will win the ballgame. And you can put it in 3-inch headlines. We will win the ball game." - Jimmy Johnson

Who do you think he said that for?

He said that in front of the players in the locker room with camera rolling he was not saying it to the media only to have players hear about it later.
 

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erod;5088438 said:
Garrett exudes more presence, and instills more confidence, by just looking on in calculating contemplation. When he's buried in playcalling, he looks far too much like just the young offensive coordinator, and then he looks fidgety when the defense is on the field. It's too much of a contrast for his personality.

A clown exudes presence at a party as well. Instead of looking at his demeanor, which reflects some subjective thinking on your part, why not look at the actual results on the field of his 'play calling'.

Sorry, JG does not install confidence, Romo installs confidence, which is why the team rallies around him when they abandon JGs playbook.
 

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you really think the coaching staff that matter in valley ranch don't know who's calling the plays? Why show our hand in May? This is like the oldest "I have no idea whose winning the starting QB job going into training camp scheme"

But honestly I think Travis Fredrick is a bargaining chip in this whole play calling ring. I think that for the most part Garrett will call the plays (but the league knows he calls passes 80 percent of the time, so lets make everyone think were gonna be more run based) but I think Callahan and Romo will be in on the game-plan. I think what really is changing is how the gamePLAN will...well be planned. As I said I think Garrett will still call the majority of our plays however in most run, run situations or run/pass hybrirds (like say play action) Callahan gets more input. One of our MAJOR weaknesses was the O-line and their communication and ALL year I felt that Callahan could coach a better line and work on their communication but he didn't have to much to work with this is why Jerry gave him Fredrick Jerry gave Callahan his "guy", so Callahan can be more effective to help the team run better all the while keeping Garrett in "control" Offensively.

I swear if its one trait I admire about JJ is that when there is nothing going on something is going on. And when there is something going on, there really nothing going on. And at this point at Valley ranch NOTHING is going on. BUT where on the front-page of ESPN and NFLN every day
 

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erod;5088460 said:
According to Babe Laugenberg, Jerry wants Callahan to call plays, and Garrett is trying to talk him out of it.

Funny how nobody had a problem when Jerry wanted Wade to take over the defense and call the plays when Brian Stewart was DC. Nobody, among them Garrett fans like Babe, were complaining about how Jerry was 'undermining' Wade. Boo hoo hoo, poor Garrett for sucking up the joint...
 

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what does it really matter to you? is it imperative right now to let you know who's calling the plays? long as the players know, then all is good
 

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dcstands4;5088472 said:
As I said I think Garrett will still call the majority of our plays however in most run, run situations or run/pass hybrirds (like say play action) Callahan gets more input.

So you'll divide the responsibility of play-calling? wow...
 

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khiladi;5088478 said:
So you'll divide the responsibility of play-calling? wow...

You don't think the HC has a say in what plays will be called? You don't think Jimmy ever over rode a call by Norv? There are going to be siutation within the game where the HC will tell the play caller what he wants.
 
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