A playcaller needs to be named now

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khiladi;5088474 said:
Funny how nobody had a problem when Jerry wanted Wade to take over the defense and call the plays when Brian Stewart was DC. Nobody, among them Garrett fans like Babe, were complaining about how Jerry was 'undermining' Wade. Boo hoo hoo, poor Garrett for sucking up the joint...

Only because Wade was the biggest joke of a head coach we've ever seen. Might as well have him do something.
 

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erod;5088438 said:
Who's calling the plays?

I'm not calling the plays, are you calling the plays? He's not calling the plays, what about that guy, is he calling the plays?

Jerry, who's calling the plays? "Uh, er, uh, certainly, uh, playcalling is important, uh, er, uh......." Good lord.

Jason, are you calling the plays? "We're going through the process of........." Oh, criminy, dude.

Hey, Callahan, are you calling the plays? "Ask Jerry, but did you hear the one about the...." I already did, and maybe later.

Who's calling the dadgum plays? Is it that hard of a question?

Truth is, I think, there's a battle royale going on behind the scenes about playcalling. I think most stuff, drama included, has sorted itself out and fallen into place, but quietly, there's a simmering whizzing match about who gets the camera time on the sideline talking into the back of a playsheet.

I believe Jerry wants Callahan to call the plays. I think most of us do, too. I also believe Garrett adamantly wants to hold on to that role because he wants to sink or swim on his own volition. Can't blame him for that, but I don't think he understands how good of a head coach he could be with a clearer head and more time to use that big Princeton brain on the sidelines.

I see a tremendous quality in Garrett that I'm not sure he values as much as he should.

The thing about smart people - I wish I were one of them people - is that they too often don't have much faith in their common man, or in this case, their fellow coaching brethren. Tom Landry was the worst in terms of trusting his coaches, and he called plays on both sides of the ball.

Garrett exudes more presence, and instills more confidence, by just looking on in calculating contemplation. When he's buried in playcalling, he looks far too much like just the young offensive coordinator, and then he looks fidgety when the defense is on the field. It's too much of a contrast for his personality.

Garrett is a stately man. He's the CEO of some airline, and the Chairman of the Board for some hoity toity multinational joint venture hedge fund investment capital ways and means sub-committee......you get the point.

You can still call plays if you're not the playcaller. In fact, you can make a LOT more decisions in all three facets of the game if you're not the designated offensive playcaller. There's so much more freedom to manage on the fly when you're not the one changing the tires in the pit crew.

This needs to get ironed out now and made public. It's important for Garrett's presence and stature in front of the team. It need not linger any further.

I too think they (JG/JJ) need to collectively come out with something on this subject to pacify the media. I'm not saying that the public or media deserves the right to know but the longer they hold out, the bigger this "issue" will become.
Players will start providing opinions to the press and pretty soon everyone is scratching their head asking who is in charge? Oh ya, we're already doing that.
If JG would just advise his usual "play calling is going to be a team effort between myself, TR and BC since there's new audibles and packages to consider. We'll know how this will work after our 1st preseason game", at least the press would give it a break until then and by then it should be apparent one way or the other. Oh ya, please duct tape JJ's mouth up until that time.
The key is that the offense is efficent/organized enough to get a play called where EVERY team member knows their place/position and assignment so TR does not have to tell everyone where to go and what to do while trying to read the defense and watch the play clock.
We probably lead the league in delay, illegal formation, offsides and holding penalties at the first of the year since we seemed to be challenged a lot of the time in that area.
JG better figure this out since his job is on the line. The media is going to be all over this much like last year if he decides to call plays again this year.
 

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This thread is silly..

I think the first few responses to the OP said it all.
 

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MichaelWinicki;5088487 said:
I think the whole "Who's calling the plays" thing is overblown.

I agree. More concerned with the execution than who is calling the plays. There is no substitution for executing the play. However in the end it still falls on the shoulder of the HC no matter who is calling the plays
 

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I don't care how they divide up play calling responsibilities so long as it's what they think is going to be the most effective thing for this staff and this personnel and it's not just an edict that's come down from on high. And I don't think it matters one jot when the decision is announced, if it ever is. I imagine this is an issue the players wouldn't even be aware existed if it weren't something they're asked about by the press from time to time.
 

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I don't think the OP knows what's going on 'behind the scenes' at all. But I guess that can't stop a good rant.
 

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erod;5088438 said:
Who's calling the plays?

I'm not calling the plays, are you calling the plays? He's not calling the plays, what about that guy, is he calling the plays?

Jerry, who's calling the plays? "Uh, er, uh, certainly, uh, playcalling is important, uh, er, uh......." Good lord.

Jason, are you calling the plays? "We're going through the process of........." Oh, criminy, dude.

Hey, Callahan, are you calling the plays? "Ask Jerry, but did you hear the one about the...." I already did, and maybe later.

Who's calling the dadgum plays? Is it that hard of a question?

Truth is, I think, there's a battle royale going on behind the scenes about playcalling. I think most stuff, drama included, has sorted itself out and fallen into place, but quietly, there's a simmering whizzing match about who gets the camera time on the sideline talking into the back of a playsheet.

I believe Jerry wants Callahan to call the plays. I think most of us do, too. I also believe Garrett adamantly wants to hold on to that role because he wants to sink or swim on his own volition. Can't blame him for that, but I don't think he understands how good of a head coach he could be with a clearer head and more time to use that big Princeton brain on the sidelines.

I see a tremendous quality in Garrett that I'm not sure he values as much as he should.

The thing about smart people - I wish I were one of them people - is that they too often don't have much faith in their common man, or in this case, their fellow coaching brethren. Tom Landry was the worst in terms of trusting his coaches, and he called plays on both sides of the ball.

Garrett exudes more presence, and instills more confidence, by just looking on in calculating contemplation. When he's buried in playcalling, he looks far too much like just the young offensive coordinator, and then he looks fidgety when the defense is on the field. It's too much of a contrast for his personality.

Garrett is a stately man. He's the CEO of some airline, and the Chairman of the Board for some hoity toity multinational joint venture hedge fund investment capital ways and means sub-committee......you get the point.

You can still call plays if you're not the playcaller. In fact, you can make a LOT more decisions in all three facets of the game if you're not the designated offensive playcaller. There's so much more freedom to manage on the fly when you're not the one changing the tires in the pit crew.

This needs to get ironed out now and made public. It's important for Garrett's presence and stature in front of the team. It need not linger any further.

come on, this is ridiculous. there is no responsibilty on the part of the team to disclose any of their football related operating procedures to anyone, ever. just because you want to know doesn't mean squat.
 

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Doomsday101;5088470 said:
He said that in front of the players in the locker room with camera rolling he was not saying it to the media only to have players hear about it later.

I think you might be mistaking there Dooms. Actually he was not in front of the team, but out driving and called in to the local sports talk and made that statement after having a few Heinekens. It is well documented. It a the day before the second NFC victory over the 49'ers.
 

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PhillyCowboysFan;5088509 said:
I think you might be mistaking there Dooms. Actually he was not in front of the team, but out driving and called in to the local sports talk and made that statement after having a few Heinekens. It is well documented. It a the day before the second NFC victory over the 49'ers.

it's also completely irrelvelant, as claiming "we will win the game" is totally different than telling the players how a part of the team will operate on gamedays...
 

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Doomsday101;5088470 said:
He said that in front of the players in the locker room with camera rolling he was not saying it to the media only to have players hear about it later.

Nope, he said it on Randy Galloway's radio show. I remember it well.

I also remember a player - I think it was Emmitt - say something to the effect of, "Jimmy said that? Well, I guess we'd better go out an win then."
 

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rocboy22;5088512 said:
it's also completely irrelvelant, as claiming "we will win the game" is totally different than telling the players how a part of the team will operate on gamedays...

Exactlyy..

Not sure how anyone tries to mistake the two, honestly.

:laugh2:
 

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erod;5088518 said:
Nope, he said it on Randy Galloway's radio show. I remember it well.

I also remember a player - I think it was Emmitt - say something to the effect of, "Jimmy said that? Well, I guess we'd better go out an win then."

and what does that have to do with play calling. Jimmy only told the press his prediction but players never knew anything until the media told them?

I guess Jimmy was not that great of a HC if he had to get the media to talk to the team and let them know what we were doing.
 

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erod;5088518 said:
..I also remember a player - I think it was Emmitt - say something to the effect of, "Jimmy said that? Well, I guess we'd better go out an win then."

I always liked that response. Not questioning the coach, just automatically getting in behind him.
 

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erod;5088518 said:
Nope, he said it on Randy Galloway's radio show. I remember it well.

I also remember a player - I think it was Emmitt - say something to the effect of, "Jimmy said that? Well, I guess we'd better go out an win then."

Yeah because they were not planning on winning before that was said. :laugh2:

That is all well and good but talking game planning and what was expected from the players Jimmy did this face to face. Some comment to the media about winning the game did not alter anything, this team was ready to go out and beat the 49ers
 

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And the 49er coach commented afterward (but before the game) on testicular physicality.

:)
 

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erod;5088438 said:
A playcaller needs to be named now

Why? I read your entire post and I still don't see the need why a playcaller needs to be named now or ever for that matter.
 

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big dog cowboy;5088561 said:
Why? I read your entire post and I still don't see the need why a playcaller needs to be named now or ever for that matter.

This for sure. The play comes in and the players execute it. Doesn't matter who decided on that play at that moment. Since all of them contribute to the game plan why does it make such a difference who in particular calls it?
 

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erod;5088481 said:
Only because Wade was the biggest joke of a head coach we've ever seen. Might as well have him do something.

Division title and play-off win, something not done for the Cowboys in how many years? If he was the biggest joke, what does that make JG for not even sniffing the play-offs? Imagine what Wade could have done if this incompetent OC wasn't coaching an ever-declining offense that couldn't effectively run the ball to control the clock? yep, times haven't changed

But don't worry, everybody is seeing it now, which is why, JG is effectively getting his play-calling duties stripped and JJ is surrounding him with a bunch with veteran experience and letting Romo now be involved in the game-planning. But yeah, JG looks like the 'man' of confidence out there on the sidelines...
 
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